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Baron Von Humongous
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:25 pm Post subject:

The Logo wrote:

I'd like a veteran coach whose name is not Brian Shaw

Robertson was an entry-level player development coach. They're not getting Larry Brown to replace him.

Of course, the Lakers could also hire Larry Brown and move Madsen behind the bench to hang out with Metta.

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:27 pm Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:

The Logo wrote:

I'd like a veteran coach whose name is not Brian Shaw

That's a great idea.

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:29 pm Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:

So being an assistant coach in the NCAA is now considered more desirable than being an assistant coach with the Lakers?

Is it really that hard to believe?

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:31 pm Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:

The Logo wrote:

I'd like a veteran coach whose name is not Brian Shaw

I actually didn't really have a problem with Robertson. I thought him, Mermuys, and Keefe were fine. I think for me it's just a matter of getting an experienced coach on the sidelines with Luke. Not a big fan of Shaw, Madesen, or Buechler

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:41 pm Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:

So being an assistant coach in the NCAA is now considered more desirable than being an assistant coach with the Lakers?

It probably isn't, but I have a hunch that he wants to be head coach at Cal someday soon. If so, he probably wants to get familiar with the college game, and also give back to his alma mater.

Besides, he now has a year of being an assistant for the Lakers on his resume.

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:50 pm Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:

So being an assistant coach in the NCAA is now considered more desirable than being an assistant coach with the Lakers?

Being an assistant coach in the NCAA (for your alma mater) is more desirable than being a player development coach in the NBA

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:37 pm Post subject:

If Alvin Gentry gets fired by New Orleans I could see him joining the staff. He and Luke were assistants together in Golden State. But I'd prefer someone more defensive minded such as Gary Payton.

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:31 pm Post subject:

Mini Mamba wrote:

If Alvin Gentry gets fired by New Orleans I could see him joining the staff.

He and Luke were assistants together in Golden State.

But I'd prefer someone more defensive minded such as Gary Payton.

I don't know why when people want defensive coaches, they always start thinking of ex players who were good defenders.
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:37 pm Post subject:

Omar Little wrote:

I don't know why when people want defensive coaches, they always start thinking of ex players who were good defenders.

Good point, but a fiery guy like Gary Payton could be a move in the right direction. Gary Payton didn't like getting scored on. That is something our guys seem to be OK with.

Strategically? I have no idea but could he be worse than someone like Kurt Rambis as a coach? I doubt it.
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:07 pm Post subject:

LakerLanny wrote:

Omar Little wrote:

I don't know why when people want defensive coaches, they always start thinking of ex players who were good defenders.

Sure he could. Being a defensive stopper and executing your coach's scheme in the 90s and early 2000s is totally different from putting together and coaching your own scheme today.

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:25 pm Post subject:

I doubt they are bringing in an established coach. More likely somebody with "upside". Jerry Stackhouse is building a reputation. He has the ties with Ingram, and Mermuys used to coach the Raptors 905 too.

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:50 pm Post subject:

LaxT wrote:

I doubt they are bringing in an established coach. More likely somebody with "upside".

Jerry Stackhouse is building a reputation. He has the ties with Ingram, and Mermuys used to coach the Raptors 905 too.

Stackhouse went to the D-League as a stepping stone to being a head coach, he's not going to be a PD assistant.

Watch for Rchard Jefferson if he finally retires this summer.

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:58 pm Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:

LaxT wrote:

Stackhouse went to the D-League as a stepping stone to being a head coach, he's not going to be a PD assistant.

Watch for Rchard Jefferson if he finally retires this summer.

I have no doubt he is using it a stepping stone, but who is the last head coach straight from DLeague to NBA?

Jefferson has the Arizona tie. Don't you think we have too many though?

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:06 pm Post subject:

LaxT wrote:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:

LaxT wrote:

Stackhouse went to the D-League as a stepping stone to being a head coach, he's not going to be a PD assistant.

Watch for Rchard Jefferson if he finally retires this summer.

I have no doubt he is using it a stepping stone, but who is the last head coach straight from DLeague to NBA?

Jefferson has the Arizona tie. Don't you think we have too many though?

It's never been done, but he's aiming to try it. Regardless, he's earned a game bench role and he doesn't seem like a guy who will take a professional step backwards.

I wouldn't be interested in seeing the Lakers add Jefferson because he and Luke are super-bros, but he'd probably do just fine taking over a PD assistant role.

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:51 pm Post subject:

tox wrote:

CandyCanes wrote:

ocho wrote:

tox wrote:

The Logo wrote:

I'd like a veteran coach whose name is not Brian Shaw

What's wrong with Shaw?

Our defense is putrid and he's the head defensive coordinator.

I don't believe you.

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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:10 am Post subject:

What about adding Ron Harper as a defensive guru on the staff?

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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:29 am Post subject:

tox wrote:

oldschool32 wrote:

tox wrote:

CandyCanes wrote:

ocho wrote:

tox wrote:

The Logo wrote:

I'd like a veteran coach whose name is not Brian Shaw

What's wrong with Shaw?

Our defense is putrid and he's the head defensive coordinator.

Is he? I never knew that was his assignment, I wasn't even sure who had that assignment actually.

He's officially the associate head coach, but IIRC Luke said he was essentially going to take command of the offense and put Shaw in charge of the defense.

Link? Outside of presumptuous posts on here like yours, I've neither seen or heard that Shaw is in charge of the defense anywhere. But hey, I could be wrong. Maybe that was reported or Luke really did mention it once or twice and I missed it. But with all of the media attention they've gotten about how bad they were on defense this season, I would've expected Shaw's name to be linked more frequently with their defense by the media if it were true that he took the lead.

Rambis was in charge of the defense under Phil, but once he left for Minnesota no one on the staff "moved up a chair" and assumed personal responsibility for the role in his stead. It became a committee effort between Hamblen, Cleamons, and Shaw:

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/oct/15/sports/sp-lakers-fyi15

Since Shaw was a member of that staff and Luke was a player, my guess is that they followed that model for at least this season. But hopefully this one season was enough for them to realize that they'll need a specialist to turn this around and have already cemented it as an offseason priority.
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:44 am Post subject:

babyskyhook wrote:

So who's the up and coming version of Thibs or Ron Adams ?

Steve Clifford, but we already had him, and Lakers fans bashed both him and Mike Brown for us being the 13th ranked defense in the league.

Subsequent years after they were gone, we were the 20th, 28th, 29th, 30th, and 30th again ranked defenses in the league.

Considering that we had both Ettoire Messina, Quinn Snyder as our offensive coordinators and Steve Clifford as our defensive assistant on the staff when Mike Brown was here and all Lakers fans could do was [expletive] on them cause they weren't Brian Shaw or Phil.

Oh what hindsight does. Considering when Snyder and Messina took over the offense and we got it rolling later in the season we went from the bottom 5th of the league offensively to finishing the season top 10.

But no one was paying attention cause they were too busy moaning about Mike Brown not being Brian Shaw and questioning Messina, Snyder and Clifford's credentials.

Oooh but look at them now.. and look at us.
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:45 am Post subject:

Judah wrote:

tox wrote:

oldschool32 wrote:

tox wrote:

CandyCanes wrote:

ocho wrote:

tox wrote:

The Logo wrote:

I'd like a veteran coach whose name is not Brian Shaw

What's wrong with Shaw?

Our defense is putrid and he's the head defensive coordinator.

Is he? I never knew that was his assignment, I wasn't even sure who had that assignment actually.

He's officially the associate head coach, but IIRC Luke said he was essentially going to take command of the offense and put Shaw in charge of the defense.

https://tinyurl.com/k5bbxdj

That seems to be what I'm thinking of -- so I think you're right. Not quite sure why I thought Shaw was in charge, but yeah unfair to blame Shaw then. Regardless, we agree that the Lakers need a dedicated defensive coach on staff.

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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:58 am Post subject:

tox wrote:

Dr. Funkbot wrote:

tox wrote:

CandyCanes wrote:

ocho wrote:

tox wrote:

The Logo wrote:

I'd like a veteran coach whose name is not Brian Shaw

What's wrong with Shaw?

Our defense is putrid and he's the head defensive coordinator.

Oh yeah, it's Bshaw's fault that a team full of teenagers and Swaggy P is not a defensive juggernaut.

It's his fault our guys don't know how to rotate properly and are never on the same page when guarding the pick and roll, yeah. The team being young does not absolve him of all, or even most, of the criticism.

I am guessing that you have never coached young players. Not that I have a real opinion on Shaw's coaching ability, but I do know that you can tell a young player to run right and he will respond by running left.
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:31 am Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:

What about adding Ron Harper as a defensive guru on the staff?

Wouldn't be a bad decision. Wasn't he the defensive coordinator with the 2004 Pistons team or wasn't it someone else on the coaching staff?

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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:02 pm Post subject:

Lakerfan 4 Life wrote:

Inspector Gadget wrote:

What about adding Ron Harper as a defensive guru on the staff?

Wouldn't be a bad decision. Wasn't he the defensive coordinator with the 2004 Pistons team or wasn't it someone else on the coaching staff?

He was sitting on the Lakers bench during the Pistons series.

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