Free market
Let airlines merged to make humongous but only a few companies
Cut competition down
Do whatever, charge whatever (no, I don't believe they lose money)
Free market
Let airlines merged to make humongous but only a few companies
Cut competition down
Do whatever, charge whatever (no, I don't believe they lose money)
The free market is the reason why its cheaper to fly than to drive or board a Greyhound or Amtrak in many instances.
Free market
Let airlines merged to make humongous but only a few companies
Cut competition down
Do whatever, charge whatever (no, I don't believe they lose money)
The free market is the reason why its cheaper to fly than to drive or board a Greyhound or Amtrak in many instances.
Maybe free market regulated by independent entity like government, not free market industry regulated by itself
Free market
Let airlines merged to make humongous but only a few companies
Cut competition down
Do whatever, charge whatever (no, I don't believe they lose money)
The free market is the reason why its cheaper to fly than to drive or board a Greyhound or Amtrak in many instances.
Maybe free market regulated by independent entity like government, not free market industry regulated by itself
Free market
Let airlines merged to make humongous but only a few companies
Cut competition down
Do whatever, charge whatever (no, I don't believe they lose money)
The free market is the reason why its cheaper to fly than to drive or board a Greyhound or Amtrak in many instances.
Maybe free market regulated by independent entity like government, not free market industry regulated by itself
It already is regulated by the government.
Not independent enough, still catered to the lobbyists. Should never let companies merged so big to remove competition
The position they put him in lead to the outcome. What is United's policy for a paying customer who is being kicked off a plane for doing nothing? Do they just move on to another customer? The police were with him and accepted his behavior, so that further encouraged his actions, I'm sure.
the cheapest airlines are almost always the worst (e.g., Delta, United, etc.). not surprised at all
If you are paying rock bottom prices to fly, don't expect luxury service. The number of people they pack into an economy class cabin, I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. You are literally being treated like cattle.
I fly Southwest all the time and nothing like this has ever happened. They overbook quite often, but there's always enough people that take the vouchers.
Agreed, Southwest is the exception to this general rule
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:18 pm Post subject:
Is anyone else skeptical that an elderly Asian male was "randomly selected"?
Let me guess... They thought he was quiet and docile and wouldn't push back. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
finally got to watch the video after getting back from work...HOLY (bleep). that guy got knocked out by one of the officers by either a punch or a taser. i'm sure there is an incoming lawsuit for these (bleep)
Apparently airlines overbooking is legal
Removing a paying passenger is also legal (up to airlines for reasons)
This 'resisting' passenger is actually liable for felony charge (good luck maintaining that medical degree)
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:49 pm Post subject:
rwongega wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
United Airlines is getting bad PR for this, but won't be the first or last time this happens, I can pretty much guarantee you this.
Doubtful they'd even care. It's a shame they took over Continental because Continental was my go-to for flights into Texas.
A quick review of their history over the last couple of years would prove that. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:54 pm Post subject:
governator wrote:
Apparently airlines overbooking is legal
Removing a paying passenger is also legal (up to airlines for reasons)
Legal, but has to take place within reason and with punitive compensation the passenger.
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This 'resisting' passenger is actually liable for felony charge (good luck maintaining that medical degree)
We need new lawmakers
You have a link for that? The explanations I have read today do not lay out that one must submit to physical extraction for not accepting random eviction for a paid seat. Quite the opposite.
At any rate, I doubt there's a prosecutor who wants to charge that doctor with a felony charge. Well at least not a prosecutor with a brain and a sense of self-preservation. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:19 pm Post subject:
United is 100% in the wrong for this event that lead to a paying passenger being savagely evicted from the seat they paid for. What this event also reveals is how much we as citizens have lazily abdicated our personal rights as travels in the aftermath of 9/11. The fear and paranoia that rose out of the 9/11 attacks allowed the Federal Government to treat ALL airline passengers as immediately suspect. We are essentially forced into a situation where if we want to fly., we need to prove our innocence going in through declarations that we are not carrying anything dangerous and subjecting ourselves to search and seizure as innocent citizens. We need to surrender innocuous things like water and we have to submit to the whims and aggressiveness of the paid employees of the airlines we pay good money as customers of, or face criminal charges and beatings.
It's more than evident that we, as free citizens and paying customers of the airline industry need too find ways to force things back to a reasonable norm where we are treated as what we are - PAYING customers as opposed to suspected terrorists or personals nuisances to a profit. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:27 pm Post subject:
DaMuleRules wrote:
United is 100% in the wrong for this event that lead to a paying passenger being savagely evicted from the seat they paid for. What this event also reveals is how much we as citizens have lazily abdicated our personal rights as travels in the aftermath of 9/11. The fear and paranoia that rose out of the 9/11 attacks allowed the Federal Government to treat ALL airline passengers as immediately suspect. We are essentially forced into a situation where if we want to fly., we need to prove our innocence going in through declarations that we are not carrying anything dangerous and subjecting ourselves to search and seizure as innocent citizens. We need to surrender innocuous things like water and we have to submit to the whims and aggressiveness of the paid employees of the airlines we pay good money as customers of, or face criminal charges and beatings.
It's more than evident that we, as free citizens and paying customers of the airline industry need too find ways to force things back to a reasonable norm where we are treated as what we are - PAYING customers as opposed to suspected terrorists or personals nuisances to a profit.
Yeah, groped and/or nuked by the TSA, disrespected by flight attendants, and possibly beaten too. Ridiculous. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
the cheapest airlines are almost always the worst (e.g., Delta, United, etc.). not surprised at all
If you are paying rock bottom prices to fly, don't expect luxury service. The number of people they pack into an economy class cabin, I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. You are literally being treated like cattle.
I fly Southwest all the time and nothing like this has ever happened. They overbook quite often, but there's always enough people that take the vouchers.
Yep. If Southwest can get me to where I'm trying to go, I'm flying with them. I've never not had a pain free, pleasant experience.
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:41 pm Post subject:
DaMuleRules wrote:
United is 100% in the wrong for this event that lead to a paying passenger being savagely evicted from the seat they paid for. What this event also reveals is how much we as citizens have lazily abdicated our personal rights as travels in the aftermath of 9/11. The fear and paranoia that rose out of the 9/11 attacks allowed the Federal Government to treat ALL airline passengers as immediately suspect. We are essentially forced into a situation where if we want to fly., we need to prove our innocence going in through declarations that we are not carrying anything dangerous and subjecting ourselves to search and seizure as innocent citizens. We need to surrender innocuous things like water and we have to submit to the whims and aggressiveness of the paid employees of the airlines we pay good money as customers of, or face criminal charges and beatings.
It's more than evident that we, as free citizens and paying customers of the airline industry need too find ways to force things back to a reasonable norm where we are treated as what we are - PAYING customers as opposed to suspected terrorists or personals nuisances to a profit.
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