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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:22 pm    Post subject: Rank Our Young Core (Trade Asset-Wise)

For purposes of this thread let's rate picks 1-3 too. Think from the mindset of another team looking at our young players. For me:

1. #1 pick
2. Ingram
3. #2 pick
4. DLo
5. #3 pick
6. Jules
7. Zub
8. Nance
9. Jc
10. Nwaba.
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-JC out for $0/Deng stretched = 57.6m in 2018 cap space
-Same as above and Jules renounced/traded for $0 = 69.9m in 2018 cap space

2 of 4 of these players will be Lakers in 2018 (LBJ/PG13/WB/Boogie)


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:23 pm    Post subject:

this should be a hot or not rating system tbh
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:24 pm    Post subject:

ZubHOT or ZubNOT?
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-JC out for $0/Deng stretched = 57.6m in 2018 cap space
-Same as above and Jules renounced/traded for $0 = 69.9m in 2018 cap space

2 of 4 of these players will be Lakers in 2018 (LBJ/PG13/WB/Boogie)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:25 pm    Post subject:

1. Julius
2. Deion
3. Randle
4. D'angeslow
E. Brannin Ingbeans
seis. The rest of those bums




aight I'll stop being stupid in your thread now friendo...lol
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:26 pm    Post subject:


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-JC out for $0/Deng stretched = 57.6m in 2018 cap space
-Same as above and Jules renounced/traded for $0 = 69.9m in 2018 cap space

2 of 4 of these players will be Lakers in 2018 (LBJ/PG13/WB/Boogie)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:05 pm    Post subject:

anpherknee wrote:
1. Julius
2. Deion
3. Randle
4. D'angeslow
E. Brannin Ingbeans
seis. The rest of those bums




aight I'll stop being stupid in your thread now friendo...lol

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Rate Our Young Core (Trade Asset-Wise)

yinoma2001 wrote:
For purposes of this thread let's rate picks 1-3 too. Think from the mindset of another team looking at our young players. For me:

1. #1 pick
2. Ingram
3. #2 pick
4. DLo
5. #3 pick
6. Jules
7. Zub
8. Nance
9. Jc
10. Nwaba.


Realistically, I think trade assetwise:

1. BI
2. DLO/#1 or 2 Pick
3. #3 Pick
4. Jules
5. JC
6. Nance
7. ZU
8. Black
9. Nwaba
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Rate Our Young Core (Trade Asset-Wise)

yinoma2001 wrote:
For purposes of this thread let's rate picks 1-3 too. Think from the mindset of another team looking at our young players. For me:

1. #1 pick
2. Ingram
3. #2 pick
4. DLo
5. #3 pick
6. Jules
7. Zub
8. Nance
9. Jc
10. Nwaba.


1. Tiny
2. DLO
3.#3 pick if we get it
4. Randle
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:27 pm    Post subject:

1. #1 pick
2. D'Angelo
3. Brandon
4. #2 pick
5. #3 pick
6. Julius
7. Zubac
8. Larry
9. JC
10. Nwaba
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:38 pm    Post subject:

everybody is available for the right price.

no untouchables
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:39 pm    Post subject:

BI
#1
Dlo/#2-#3


That's all that really matters.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:40 pm    Post subject:

The Logo wrote:
1. #1 pick
2. D'Angelo
3. Brandon
4. #2 pick
5. #3 pick
6. Julius
7. Zubac
8. Larry
9. JC
10. Nwaba
I agree with this but outside perception probably has Slim as our #1 prospects for those dunks baby. Switch JC and Nance too.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:40 pm    Post subject:

Chase.button07 wrote:
everybody is available for the right price.

no untouchables


maybe but it will be hard to get comparable value for BI imo
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:42 pm    Post subject:

I think of the current players Ingram will be the first player that is requested. Maybe it's a perception thing (I.e. Work ethic, humility, size, etc).

I also wonder too if Dlo/Jules either stay together in LA or will be traded together (they share agents).
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-JC out for $0/Deng stretched = 57.6m in 2018 cap space
-Same as above and Jules renounced/traded for $0 = 69.9m in 2018 cap space

2 of 4 of these players will be Lakers in 2018 (LBJ/PG13/WB/Boogie)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:46 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
I think of the current players Ingram will be the first player that is requested. Maybe it's a perception thing (I.e. Work ethic, humility, size, etc).

I also wonder too if Dlo/Jules either stay together in LA or will be traded together (they share agents).


only untouchable if at all is Ingram. rest everybody can go
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:47 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
I think of the current players Ingram will be the first player that is requested. Maybe it's a perception thing (I.e. Work ethic, humility, size, etc).

I also wonder too if Dlo/Jules either stay together in LA or will be traded together (they share agents).


no doubt the vulture will be after BI but they won't want to give what he's worth AND take bad contracts too
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:54 pm    Post subject:

VicXLakers wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
I think of the current players Ingram will be the first player that is requested. Maybe it's a perception thing (I.e. Work ethic, humility, size, etc).

I also wonder too if Dlo/Jules either stay together in LA or will be traded together (they share agents).


no doubt the vulture will be after BI but they won't want to give what he's worth AND take bad contracts too


most definitely not trading Ingram for Paul George
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:54 pm    Post subject:

1.Ingram
2.Russell
3.Randle
4.Clarkson
5.#28
6.Zubac
7.Nance
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:55 pm    Post subject:

Chase.button07 wrote:
VicXLakers wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
I think of the current players Ingram will be the first player that is requested. Maybe it's a perception thing (I.e. Work ethic, humility, size, etc).

I also wonder too if Dlo/Jules either stay together in LA or will be traded together (they share agents).


no doubt the vulture will be after BI but they won't want to give what he's worth AND take bad contracts too


most definitely not trading Ingram for Paul George


I doubt they consider that deal. Ingram can be a similar player to George, and he's also 7-8 years younger.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:57 pm    Post subject:

Vancouver Fan wrote:
The Logo wrote:
1. #1 pick
2. D'Angelo
3. Brandon
4. #2 pick
5. #3 pick
6. Julius
7. Zubac
8. Larry
9. JC
10. Nwaba
I agree with this but outside perception probably has Slim as our #1 prospects for those dunks baby. Switch JC and Nance too.

Ingram probably has the higher ceiling because of his athleticism but I just value Russell's floor/skillset more.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:04 pm    Post subject:

The Logo wrote:
Vancouver Fan wrote:
The Logo wrote:
1. #1 pick
2. D'Angelo
3. Brandon
4. #2 pick
5. #3 pick
6. Julius
7. Zubac
8. Larry
9. JC
10. Nwaba
I agree with this but outside perception probably has Slim as our #1 prospects for those dunks baby. Switch JC and Nance too.

Ingram probably has the higher ceiling because of his athleticism but I just value Russell's floor/skillset more.


I think it goes beyond athleticism. Ingram can score from all three levels, has a tremendous skill set, and has elite length. I would love if those two guys pulled a Curry/Klay and pushed each other every day to keep getting better and hit their full potential.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:05 pm    Post subject:

This is really a measure of value to other teams and perception, so I think our trade assets are:

1) #1 pick
2) #2 pick
3) #3 pick
4) Brandon Ingram
5) D'Angelo Russell
6) Ivica Zubac
7) Larry Nance
8) Julius Randle
9) Jordan Clarkson

Mind you, Randle's about to get paid, and Clarkson already has been.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:08 pm    Post subject:

GoldenThroat wrote:
This is really a measure of value to other teams and perception, so I think our trade assets are:

1) #1 pick
2) #2 pick
3) #3 pick
4) Brandon Ingram
5) D'Angelo Russell
6) Ivica Zubac
7) Larry Nance
8) Julius Randle
9) Jordan Clarkson

Mind you, Randle's about to get paid, and Clarkson already has been.


Exactly. Too many are viewing this thread as to how they view each player. This isn't about what you think. This is about how other teams look at the Lakers' assets. What GT wrote is exactly how it is, imo. The pick trumps all.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:25 pm    Post subject:

I don't agree the no. 2 or 3 pick trumps all. Number 1. OK.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:32 pm    Post subject:

Other teams don't look at our players as highly as we do as Laker fans. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if many teams thought most, if not all, of our guys are big disappointments, at least the ones drafted in the lottery. We don't get to hear what other GMs think around the league, but a couple listens to national sports commentators would give you the idea that all our guys suck. The pick would give teams the opportunity to do what they wanted. That doesn't even mention the value more years on a rookie contract has.

Personally I wouldn't have #3 over Russell or Ingram. I believe other GMs do though.
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