The Great Ben Wallace & Kwame vs Shaq

 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 3:50 pm    Post subject: The Great Ben Wallace & Kwame vs Shaq

After two games against Shaq Ben and Kwame measured up as follows:

Ben = 70 minutes, 7 points, 21 rebounds,
Kwame= 59 minutes, 4 points, 12 rebounds,

Shaq vs Ben = 73 Minutes, 57 points, 14 Rebounds
Shaq vs Kwame = 66 minutes, 36 points, 27 Rebounds

Seems Kwame matches up pretty well against someone who most seem to believe is a monster defender when going up against a solid low post presence. Shaq defintely pushes Wallace around with much more ease than he's able to work with against Kwame. And it certainly seems that Kwame isn't the only one who'c offensively challenged when he has to expend so much energy defending a low post beast. Ben Wallace was a complete non factor in that Miami game today. Shaq ate him up and shat him out....
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 3:59 pm    Post subject:

Without question. I think that is Kwame's purpose on this team. Now if he could only do what he did last night on the offensive end everygame.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:02 am    Post subject:

I hope Kwame can be a pretty defender and good rebounder
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:24 am    Post subject:

I agree in all points, including the fact that anyone burdened with guarding Snaq, may be hard-pressed to contribute much scoring in addition. However, Big Ben is ALWAYS offensively challenged...hehe...

I actually see a lot of similarities in Kwame and an early Ben at the SAME age! Remember Ben had a good deal of college seasoning and still took several years to develop.

- Kwame is light years ahead of early-Ben physically.

- Ben has great hands which helps him swallow up any and every rebound. Ben looks faster too, which helps him switch and flash on the pick-and-rolls.

- Kwame's height and weight advantage should help to compensate for these in the long run. Looking at him, there's no reason Kwame shouldn't challenge as the strongest man in the NBA.

The guy's heavyweight post D is a must for any playoff team. Lets not forget that Kwame's offseason was a little uncertain. An offseason of conditioning and weights + Pete Newell's Big Man camp (with Cookie, Ronny T, Mihm and AB hopefully) + some Tri work, and we should see some big strides.

How about this?
Finesse frontline - Cookie, AB/Mihm
Power frontline - Mihm/Ronny T, Kwame
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:28 am    Post subject:

Sounds good! They just have to be consistent.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:40 am    Post subject:

Kwame is the better man defender in the low post b/c of his base, length and height.

Wallace has a bigger impact in terms of overall team defense - he's that active athletic player you like to have anchor your D so that when guys get by your perimeter D they don't get layups. Kwame doesn't do that.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:08 am    Post subject:

Ok now I will make a thread comparing Sasha to Jason Kidd


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:11 am    Post subject:

Ya know I think that he will come along, he just needs a good kick in his butt to get him going.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:15 am    Post subject:

Kwame's got a hight advantage on Ben, but Ben's got a lot more consistant hustle and a better nose for the ball. Kwame's going to have to really dedicate himself to get onto Ben's level.
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