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True Lakers Fan Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:07 am Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | Am I the only one who thinks that a 35 win season, despite the massive upgrades with the rest of the Western Conference, is a tremendously successful season? |
I think 40 would be ideal. _________________ I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying. |
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Mike@LG Moderator
Joined: 10 Apr 2001 Posts: 65135 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:17 am Post subject: |
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True Lakers Fan wrote: | Mike@LG wrote: | Am I the only one who thinks that a 35 win season, despite the massive upgrades with the rest of the Western Conference, is a tremendously successful season? |
I think 40 would be ideal. |
It doesn't make sense to me.
Dallas just got DSJ, with Noel, twilight Dirk, and 20ppg Barnes
NOH still has Cousins, AD, and Holiday
DEN has Jokic, Harris, Millsap
LAC has Griffin and DAJ
MEM with Conley and Gasol
MIN is stacked.
I get that I'm referring to proven, veteran teams, but there is A LOT for this Laker team to establish this season. It's only health that's an issue. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
https://lakersdraft.substack.com/
I am not an economic advisor nor do I advise economic strategies or plans. |
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LandsbergerRules Franchise Player
Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 11197 Location: The Other Perspective
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:37 am Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | Am I the only one who thinks that a 35 win season, despite the massive upgrades with the rest of the Western Conference, is a tremendously successful season? |
I think a lot of members are predicting a win total around that amount. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him |
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Mike@LG Moderator
Joined: 10 Apr 2001 Posts: 65135 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:47 am Post subject: |
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LandsbergerRules wrote: | Mike@LG wrote: | Am I the only one who thinks that a 35 win season, despite the massive upgrades with the rest of the Western Conference, is a tremendously successful season? |
I think a lot of members are predicting a win total around that amount. |
Perhaps I've seen more than my share of playoff banter. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
https://lakersdraft.substack.com/
I am not an economic advisor nor do I advise economic strategies or plans. |
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LandsbergerRules Franchise Player
Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 11197 Location: The Other Perspective
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | LandsbergerRules wrote: | Mike@LG wrote: | Am I the only one who thinks that a 35 win season, despite the massive upgrades with the rest of the Western Conference, is a tremendously successful season? |
I think a lot of members are predicting a win total around that amount. |
Perhaps I've seen more than my share of playoff banter. |
I chalk it up to some of the youngsters here getting caught up in their excitement. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him |
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DangeRuss Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:07 am Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | Am I the only one who thinks that a 35 win season, despite the massive upgrades with the rest of the Western Conference, is a tremendously successful season? |
Yeah, a single digit improvement for me wouldn't be a tremendous success, it would basically be what's expected. We added two veteran starters who are well above average for their position. We have the natural progression as players for Ingram, Randle, Clarkson, and nance, also we have another year in lukes system, lukes second yr coaching full time as hc, and added Lonzo who is supposedly creating a contagious unselfish culture. 35 wins for me would be solid, but not a tremendous success. |
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The Lebrons Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | Am I the only one who thinks that a 35 win season, despite the massive upgrades with the rest of the Western Conference, is a tremendously successful season? |
I don't know about "tremendously successful", but I'd be happy with 35 wins. |
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Mike@LG Moderator
Joined: 10 Apr 2001 Posts: 65135 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:13 am Post subject: |
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The Lebrons wrote: | Mike@LG wrote: | Am I the only one who thinks that a 35 win season, despite the massive upgrades with the rest of the Western Conference, is a tremendously successful season? |
I don't know about "tremendously successful", but I'd be happy with 35 wins. |
I only say that, because of the increased firepower of the competition. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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I am not an economic advisor nor do I advise economic strategies or plans. |
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The Lebrons Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | The Lebrons wrote: | Mike@LG wrote: | Am I the only one who thinks that a 35 win season, despite the massive upgrades with the rest of the Western Conference, is a tremendously successful season? |
I don't know about "tremendously successful", but I'd be happy with 35 wins. |
I only say that, because of the increased firepower of the competition. |
Ya, I understand based on competition and expectations. I expect around the same win total (~26), so a +9 in the win column would be a success. I'd consider it a tremendous success if we're competing for the #8 seed.
Actually, the only thing that matters is next off-season, so if that goes well, I'll decide how good the season was in retrospect.
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JohnWick Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | The Lebrons wrote: | Mike@LG wrote: | Am I the only one who thinks that a 35 win season, despite the massive upgrades with the rest of the Western Conference, is a tremendously successful season? |
I don't know about "tremendously successful", but I'd be happy with 35 wins. |
I only say that, because of the increased firepower of the competition. |
Yup. the West got stronger overall compared to last season. If we win 35 games this season it'll be a very successful season for us and will give the pending max free agents something to really look forward to. A young Lakers team on the rise |
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LakerDYnasty72 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | The Lebrons wrote: | Mike@LG wrote: | Am I the only one who thinks that a 35 win season, despite the massive upgrades with the rest of the Western Conference, is a tremendously successful season? |
I don't know about "tremendously successful", but I'd be happy with 35 wins. |
I only say that, because of the increased firepower of the competition. |
35 wins would be just about twice what we won the year before. Based on where we started , 20-62, and improve to 35-47, that would generate the kind of attraction for those max slots.
In short, I'd love 35 wins. More than that and I'd be down right giddy |
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h2omike Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:33 am Post subject: |
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I'll be happy with the win total as long as we are improving and the front office is committed to winning long term. 35-40 wins would be outstanding in my view. |
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Andre2K Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:57 am Post subject: |
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35 wins would be amazing, Ball should win MVP + Rookie of the year if he leads us to 35 wins _________________ My Dream Starting 5 next Season
Pg Lonzo
Sg Kawhi
Sf Ingram
Pf Lebron
C Dedmon
Bench: Caruso, Hart, Bullock, Kuzma, McGee etc |
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greenfrog Retired Number
Joined: 02 Jan 2011 Posts: 36081 Location: 502 Bad Gateway
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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Is 35 above the Vegas lines? The last I saw was 32, but that was before the KCP signing. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
Joined: 14 Apr 2001 Posts: 144432 Location: The Gold Coast
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | Am I the only one who thinks that a 35 win season, despite the massive upgrades with the rest of the Western Conference, is a tremendously successful season? |
No, I would be happy with that, I have predicted 36 wins. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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PICKnPOP Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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I'm expecting playoffs.
I know it seems absurd considering how many games we won last season, but I don't think we were as bad as our record indicated last season. I think we were throwing games no matter what anybody says.
we also added a go-to-scorer in Lopez that we didn't have last season.
With Lonzo ball getting us a few extra easy baskets a game and kcp making life hard on the top point guards in the west, I think that already puts us at 35 wins.
My X factors are
1) clarkson moving back to point guard in an uptempo offense and also stepping into the Lou Williams role of top scorer off the bench. He's a btter pg than sg and he's just a scorer. Let him do his thing as long as he's getting buckets and playing defense.
2) Julius randle/Larry nance progression. This is the year where these two players show who they are gonna be in their careers imo. No more excuses can be made...you're either stars or you're not and I think they are stars.
Larry gets recognized as an elite defender and Julius steps into that star PF role
3) Brandon Ingram. He's the big X factor because I honestly don't think he can be stopped from scoring the ball. 20 ppg east this season with ball setting him up on top of his ISO skills.
I'd be ok if we BARELY miss the playoffs but that's it. |
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ChickenStu Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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greenfrog wrote: | Is 35 above the Vegas lines? The last I saw was 32, but that was before the KCP signing. |
Our Over/Under is 33.5.
Also, if you want to bet that we're going to make the playoffs, you can get +625 odds, or just better than 6-to-1 on your money. Conversely, if you want to bet that we won't make the playoffs, it's -1000 odds, meaning that you'd have to put up a thousand bucks to make a profit of $100. |
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True Lakers Fan Starting Rotation
Joined: 28 Oct 2011 Posts: 917 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Andre2K wrote: | 35 wins would be amazing, Ball should win MVP + Rookie of the year if he leads us to 35 wins |
He won't win MVP with that many wins. Maybe 42-45. _________________ I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying. |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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We all know predictions are mostly crap. Unless you're Vegas
I just won't be surprised with a 16 game turnaround.
At the same time, I wouldn't be surprised with a 8 game turnaround.
Although I would be totally disappointed with that. Especially after getting rid of 2 of the 3 stooges along with Lou and replacing them with better all around players (well debatable with Lou's replacement). |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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GoldenThroat wrote: | epak wrote: | We all know predictions are mostly crap. Unless you're Vegas
I just won't be surprised with a 16 game turnaround.
At the same time, I wouldn't be surprised with a 8 game turnaround.
Although I would be totally disappointed with that. Especially after getting rid of 2 of the 3 stooges along with Lou and replacing them with better all around players (well debatable with Lou's replacement). |
It may mean that your evals are off in a couple of places. |
Definitely wouldn't put it pass me. |
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eureca Franchise Player
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Mr. Lonzo Ball Rookie
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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That looks photorealistic |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Sweet. If 2k ratings mean anything, our new PG has the same one as our old one |
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ocho Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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I miss watching Lonzo play basketball. _________________ 14-5-3-12 |
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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ocho wrote: | I miss watching Lonzo play basketball. |
Faxts. I actually miss watching him drive in games, that was a fun kind of revelation |
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