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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:01 pm    Post subject:

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I love lonzos potential and his overall savy high IQ game.. But if the blazzers offered Lillard for Lopez, Clarkson & Lonzo what would magic say?



If Lakers could use Lonzo to dump Deng and get back a young player, they should seriously consider it.

Lonzo + Deng would open $25m in cap-space and give you room to keep Clarkson, Randle and sign 2 stars.

My personal favorite is Lonzo + Deng for Dunn + Miroctic. Dunn would give you a defensive minded PG that could be a good piece with 2 max stars.


My God, NO. Terrible, just terrible. You don't trade Lonzo 25 games in. WTH, SMDH.
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For all the criticism of Lonzo, would anyone disagree that he would easily have like 5-6 triple doubles if not for Luke sitting him out /or because he gets in foul trouble, I mean is he supposed to play like God for people to be satisfied?


Becoming a better free throw shooter than Dwight Howard would be a good start.
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LakerMindLA wrote:
watchME wrote:
I love lonzos potential and his overall savy high IQ game.. But if the blazzers offered Lillard for Lopez, Clarkson & Lonzo what would magic say?



If Lakers could use Lonzo to dump Deng and get back a young player, they should seriously consider it.

Lonzo + Deng would open $25m in cap-space and give you room to keep Clarkson, Randle and sign 2 stars.

My personal favorite is Lonzo + Deng for Dunn + Miroctic. Dunn would give you a defensive minded PG that could be a good piece with 2 max stars.


My God, NO. Terrible, just terrible. You don't trade Lonzo 25 games in. WTH, SMDH.


The Lakers want to compete for a championship next year. Lonzo has a long, long way to go to contribute and play significant minutes on a championship caliber team.

You can bet Lebron and PG13 see this.

If you dump Deng with Lonzo, you may be able to squeeze in almost 3 max contracts with some other roster moves.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:47 pm    Post subject:

LakerMindLA wrote:
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I love lonzos potential and his overall savy high IQ game.. But if the blazzers offered Lillard for Lopez, Clarkson & Lonzo what would magic say?



If Lakers could use Lonzo to dump Deng and get back a young player, they should seriously consider it.

Lonzo + Deng would open $25m in cap-space and give you room to keep Clarkson, Randle and sign 2 stars.

My personal favorite is Lonzo + Deng for Dunn + Miroctic. Dunn would give you a defensive minded PG that could be a good piece with 2 max stars.


My God, NO. Terrible, just terrible. You don't trade Lonzo 25 games in. WTH, SMDH.


The Lakers want to compete for a championship next year. Lonzo has a long, long way to go to contribute and play significant minutes on a championship caliber team.

You can bet Lebron and PG13 see this.

If you dump Deng with Lonzo, you may be able to squeeze in almost 3 max contracts with some other roster moves.


it has only been a little more than 1/4 of the season. remember how bi looked at that time. many were calling major bust. otoh, beyond assists, ball has been quite good and much better than expected in rebounding and defense.

you can worry about trading him in the offseason if that is really called for.

what is telling is his foul shot % - it is horrible. that tells you it is not talent with his shooting. it is just fatigue/nerves or something mental like that right now. he shot 67% in college, which while not good is almost 20% better than with the lakers. i would expect this should be obvious to james pg boogie and others.
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cal1piggy wrote:
LakerMindLA wrote:
TEEGUNN wrote:
LakerMindLA wrote:
watchME wrote:
I love lonzos potential and his overall savy high IQ game.. But if the blazzers offered Lillard for Lopez, Clarkson & Lonzo what would magic say?



If Lakers could use Lonzo to dump Deng and get back a young player, they should seriously consider it.

Lonzo + Deng would open $25m in cap-space and give you room to keep Clarkson, Randle and sign 2 stars.

My personal favorite is Lonzo + Deng for Dunn + Miroctic. Dunn would give you a defensive minded PG that could be a good piece with 2 max stars.


My God, NO. Terrible, just terrible. You don't trade Lonzo 25 games in. WTH, SMDH.


The Lakers want to compete for a championship next year. Lonzo has a long, long way to go to contribute and play significant minutes on a championship caliber team.

You can bet Lebron and PG13 see this.

If you dump Deng with Lonzo, you may be able to squeeze in almost 3 max contracts with some other roster moves.


it has only been a little more than 1/4 of the season. remember how bi looked at that time. many were calling major bust. otoh, beyond assists, ball has been quite good and much better than expected in rebounding and defense.

you can worry about trading him in the offseason if that is really called for.

what is telling is his foul shot % - it is horrible. that tells you it is not talent with his shooting. it is just fatigue/nerves or something mental like that right now. he shot 67% in college, which while not good is almost 20% better than with the lakers. i would expect this should be obvious to james pg boogie and others.


Or the ball, which is a much more somber thought.

I remember how BI looked. I also remember that BI has rare physical traits (size and length for a perimeter player), which always gave him a high ceiling.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:01 pm    Post subject:

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most of the Lakers have two days to rest and check out Manhattan...Lonzo is scheduled to join his dad at one of his swap meet stands to hock apparel at a shoe pawn shop near Greenwich Village.

Appears to be a high end clientele......

https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/status/939954748903645190


what is wrong with us? people cheered when a woman stepped on it.
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most of the Lakers have two days to rest and check out Manhattan...Lonzo is scheduled to join his dad at one of his swap meet stands to hock apparel at a shoe pawn shop near Greenwich Village.

Appears to be a high end clientele......

https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/status/939954748903645190


what is wrong with us? people cheered when a woman stepped on it.


Well it's a high end clientele; of course they are going to sneer at the plebeians passing by.
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socaguy wrote:
adkindo wrote:
most of the Lakers have two days to rest and check out Manhattan...Lonzo is scheduled to join his dad at one of his swap meet stands to hock apparel at a shoe pawn shop near Greenwich Village.

Appears to be a high end clientele......

https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/status/939954748903645190


what is wrong with us? people cheered when a woman stepped on it.


Well it's a high end clientele; of course they are going to sneer at the plebeians passing by.



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:08 pm    Post subject:

LakerMindLA wrote:
TEEGUNN wrote:
LakerMindLA wrote:
watchME wrote:
I love lonzos potential and his overall savy high IQ game.. But if the blazzers offered Lillard for Lopez, Clarkson & Lonzo what would magic say?



If Lakers could use Lonzo to dump Deng and get back a young player, they should seriously consider it.

Lonzo + Deng would open $25m in cap-space and give you room to keep Clarkson, Randle and sign 2 stars.

My personal favorite is Lonzo + Deng for Dunn + Miroctic. Dunn would give you a defensive minded PG that could be a good piece with 2 max stars.


My God, NO. Terrible, just terrible. You don't trade Lonzo 25 games in. WTH, SMDH.


The Lakers want to compete for a championship next year. Lonzo has a long, long way to go to contribute and play significant minutes on a championship caliber team.

You can bet Lebron and PG13 see this.

If you dump Deng with Lonzo, you may be able to squeeze in almost 3 max contracts with some other roster moves.

No, I think the Lakers want to be perpetually competitive, not just in the short term. Trading core youth for a 3-year run or so just means rebuilding again in a few years.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:09 pm    Post subject:

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High end stores do pop up shops, I'm sure BBB made good $$$.
It's not some street vendor thing, Shake shack did a pop up shop in west hollywood that killed it- made the decision easy for putting in a permanent store.
In n out burger did a pop up in australia that had like a six hour long line to get a burger, its the new way of brick and mortar.
Advantage-BBB.


maybe your right....I think I did see a Jimmy Choo's last weekend at the local farmers market....it was right next to the Tiffany's pop up shop......
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:03 pm    Post subject:

socaguy wrote:
adkindo wrote:
most of the Lakers have two days to rest and check out Manhattan...Lonzo is scheduled to join his dad at one of his swap meet stands to hock apparel at a shoe pawn shop near Greenwich Village.

Appears to be a high end clientele......

https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/status/939954748903645190


what is wrong with us? people cheered when a woman stepped on it.


Can you imagine the euphoria they would have experienced if she had fallen and split open her head. People who find pleasure in others misfortune are very scary. Nothing new though. 40 years ago I remembered being perplexed by schoolmates who seemed to get aroused when an individual was attacked by a mob, and they would go absolutely nuts if the person was knocked unconscious.
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OCWA wrote:
socaguy wrote:
adkindo wrote:
most of the Lakers have two days to rest and check out Manhattan...Lonzo is scheduled to join his dad at one of his swap meet stands to hock apparel at a shoe pawn shop near Greenwich Village.

Appears to be a high end clientele......

https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/status/939954748903645190


what is wrong with us? people cheered when a woman stepped on it.


Can you imagine the euphoria they would have experienced if she had fallen and split open her head. People who find pleasure in others misfortune are very scary. Nothing new though. 40 years ago I remembered being perplexed by schoolmates who seemed to get aroused when an individual was attacked by a mob, and they would go absolutely nuts if the person was knocked unconscious.


damn bro...what youth detention center did you get sentenced to? Me and my suburban gangsta's might put a thumb tack in your seat or throw a kick me sign on yo back...but knocked unconscious?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:12 pm    Post subject:

OCWA wrote:
socaguy wrote:
adkindo wrote:
most of the Lakers have two days to rest and check out Manhattan...Lonzo is scheduled to join his dad at one of his swap meet stands to hock apparel at a shoe pawn shop near Greenwich Village.

Appears to be a high end clientele......

https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/status/939954748903645190


what is wrong with us? people cheered when a woman stepped on it.


Can you imagine the euphoria they would have experienced if she had fallen and split open her head. People who find pleasure in others misfortune are very scary. Nothing new though. 40 years ago I remembered being perplexed by schoolmates who seemed to get aroused when an individual was attacked by a mob, and they would go absolutely nuts if the person was knocked unconscious.


Plot twist: It was OCWA's mom who stepped in the poop.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:13 pm    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
For all the criticism of Lonzo, would anyone disagree that he would easily have like 5-6 triple doubles if not for Luke sitting him out /or because he gets in foul trouble, I mean is he supposed to play like God for people to be satisfied?

He sat out the 4th against: clippers on a bad ankle while the team was getting blownout with a b2b the next day against the suns, pheonix game where he only sat cause jc and brewer were cooking, 76ers cause he was complete ass, Houston cause he was complete ass, and the hornets cause jc was cooking

I don't think he'd have realistically gotten a triple dub in any of those games, and the whole storyline of being benched is kinda dumb, since it's really only two games.
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Plot twist: It was OCWA's mom who stepped in the poop.


you better be careful....think OCWA may have grown up in a Taliban controlled territory.
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adkindo wrote:
OCWA wrote:
socaguy wrote:
adkindo wrote:
most of the Lakers have two days to rest and check out Manhattan...Lonzo is scheduled to join his dad at one of his swap meet stands to hock apparel at a shoe pawn shop near Greenwich Village.

Appears to be a high end clientele......

https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/status/939954748903645190


what is wrong with us? people cheered when a woman stepped on it.


Can you imagine the euphoria they would have experienced if she had fallen and split open her head. People who find pleasure in others misfortune are very scary. Nothing new though. 40 years ago I remembered being perplexed by schoolmates who seemed to get aroused when an individual was attacked by a mob, and they would go absolutely nuts if the person was knocked unconscious.


damn bro...what youth detention center did you get sentenced to? Me and my suburban gangsta's might put a thumb tack in your seat or throw a kick me sign on yo back...but knocked unconscious?


Early eighties is when I first became aware of the Knock out game. It wasn't called that back then though.
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PHILosophize wrote:
OCWA wrote:
socaguy wrote:
adkindo wrote:
most of the Lakers have two days to rest and check out Manhattan...Lonzo is scheduled to join his dad at one of his swap meet stands to hock apparel at a shoe pawn shop near Greenwich Village.

Appears to be a high end clientele......

https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/status/939954748903645190


what is wrong with us? people cheered when a woman stepped on it.


Can you imagine the euphoria they would have experienced if she had fallen and split open her head. People who find pleasure in others misfortune are very scary. Nothing new though. 40 years ago I remembered being perplexed by schoolmates who seemed to get aroused when an individual was attacked by a mob, and they would go absolutely nuts if the person was knocked unconscious.


Plot twist: It was OCWA's mom who stepped in the poop.


My mother died a few years ago.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:35 pm    Post subject:

LakerMindLA wrote:
TEEGUNN wrote:
LakerMindLA wrote:
watchME wrote:
I love lonzos potential and his overall savy high IQ game.. But if the blazzers offered Lillard for Lopez, Clarkson & Lonzo what would magic say?



If Lakers could use Lonzo to dump Deng and get back a young player, they should seriously consider it.

Lonzo + Deng would open $25m in cap-space and give you room to keep Clarkson, Randle and sign 2 stars.

My personal favorite is Lonzo + Deng for Dunn + Miroctic. Dunn would give you a defensive minded PG that could be a good piece with 2 max stars.


My God, NO. Terrible, just terrible. You don't trade Lonzo 25 games in. WTH, SMDH.


The Lakers want to compete for a championship next year. Lonzo has a long, long way to go to contribute and play significant minutes on a championship caliber team.

You can bet Lebron and PG13 see this.

If you dump Deng with Lonzo, you may be able to squeeze in almost 3 max contracts with some other roster moves.


The Lakers have a much longer term plan for Lonzo than you do. I also believe that the star players you mentioned would love to play with Lonzo if those player(s) decided to make their way to the Lakers.

Seems like so many people do not notice all of things Lonzo brings to the team, even when he is basically not a scoring option. Don't think these guys would have plans to get Lonzo traded from the team, I bet it much more likely they would prefer him to stay.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:26 pm    Post subject:

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For all the criticism of Lonzo, would anyone disagree that he would easily have like 5-6 triple doubles if not for Luke sitting him out /or because he gets in foul trouble


Yes, I disagree with that. Which specific 5 or 6 games are you referring to? Cause I don't see which ones you mean.
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OCWA wrote:
socaguy wrote:
adkindo wrote:
most of the Lakers have two days to rest and check out Manhattan...Lonzo is scheduled to join his dad at one of his swap meet stands to hock apparel at a shoe pawn shop near Greenwich Village.

Appears to be a high end clientele......

https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/status/939954748903645190


what is wrong with us? people cheered when a woman stepped on it.


Can you imagine the euphoria they would have experienced if she had fallen and split open her head. People who find pleasure in others misfortune are very scary. Nothing new though. 40 years ago I remembered being perplexed by schoolmates who seemed to get aroused when an individual was attacked by a mob, and they would go absolutely nuts if the person was knocked unconscious.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:36 pm    Post subject:

Lineup in crunch time should be clarkson, kcp, Ingram, randle, Kuzma. Ball should not be playing
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:39 pm    Post subject:

george w kush wrote:
Lineup in crunch time should be clarkson, kcp, Ingram, randle, Kuzma. Ball should not be playing


Year right.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:41 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
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Lineup in crunch time should be clarkson, kcp, Ingram, randle, Kuzma. Ball should not be playing


Year right.


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george w kush wrote:
Lineup in crunch time should be clarkson, kcp, Ingram, randle, Kuzma. Ball should not be playing


Year right.


OK 🙄


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