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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:10 pm    Post subject:

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The is a killer! I have tickets to the game Friday in Brooklyn!!!!! Come on Zo, man up!!!!


There's a chance. Keep hope alive.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:35 pm    Post subject:

I like the idea of protecting a young player by not allowing the knee to be a story, especially one as exposed as Lonzo. I would expect Boston or San Antonio to do about the same.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:02 pm    Post subject:

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@taniaganguli It's been an MCL sprain the whole time. I am not sure why they didn't say that to begin with. https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/status/958497541535956992



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:06 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
It's gotta be the shoes (Spike Lee voice).


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:10 pm    Post subject:

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It's gotta be the shoes (Spike Lee voice).




Magic and Mr. Trainer to The Stars seriously need to stage an intervention there.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:43 pm    Post subject:

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@taniaganguli It's been an MCL sprain the whole time. I am not sure why they didn't say that to begin with. https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/status/958497541535956992


They did...https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2018/01/14/la-lakers-lonzo-ball-questionable-mri-knee/1033148001/

Minor Knee Sprain.

Minor = No Surgery Necessary
Knee = Not His Liver
Sprain = Ligament Injury (Only 4 in the Knee...Pick One)

I like Tania...but this is terrible research.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:20 pm    Post subject:

Yeah I'm not sure I understand the level of surprise here. When I heard 'Sprained Knee' I assumed right off the bat it could be a ligament, fortunately it's MCL not ACL, fortunately it's 'minor' and not type 2 or 3. That still translates to at least 3 weeks minimum. It's not career threatening, but it's a helluva lot worse than a bruised kneecap. Don't rush it. It's been 2 and a half weeks, he's starting lateral movement just now.

Luke has been explicit in his interview on what milestones he expects before Lonzo returns, and it's clear he doesn't want to cheat the healing process by rushing things. Now that Lonzo's doing a little lateral movement they wait to see if there's soreness the next day. Soon, full practice, then wait again and see how the knee reacts. If no setback, start giving him minutes again. Hopefully ease him back the first game or two and gauge the knee.

I think it's a reasonable approach for a 20 year old prized rookie who doesn't yet have an NBA body but does have a mild knee sprain.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:24 pm    Post subject:

I think people get freaked out when they hear something "CL."
Is the MCL a ligament in the knee?
Uhm. yes.
Is a MCL sprain a knee sprain?
Uhm. yes.
Is this really an X-Files case?
I hope not. Why is everyone talking as if it is.
You're scaring me.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:30 pm    Post subject:

Why hide it then if it is so innocuous?

Just say next time that it's an MCL sprain.

Not bullsh*t answers.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:32 pm    Post subject:

Lack of info gets me nervous, but I see it makes sense just to keep quiet about it, less Ball media circus questions, lets the team focus on the game.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:42 pm    Post subject:

Dad, do you want to go see a Lakers game?

Sure, do you know if Lonzo's playing?

Um... let me check. It says he is day to day... we aren't quite sure yet.

Hmmm... sure why not, let's take a chance... maybe he'll be well by then.

It's f*cking dishonest and either stealing from fans who wouldn't pay for a ticket otherwise, or it's misleading to FAs who would only want to come here based on Lonzo's health.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:56 pm    Post subject:

Dear Lakers,

Next time someone has a knee injury, please make sure to let us know whether it's an ACL, PCL, MCL or LCL sprain. We anatomy majors would appreciate it.

Sincerely,
A fan who doesn't want Sentient Meat to buy a ticket based solely on Lonzo's health and then be disappointed he didnt play.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:01 pm    Post subject:

Right off the bat it was reported as a knee sprain. What's a "Knee Sprain" going to be if it's not a ligament?? They didn't set a timetable, nor did they lie about a timetable. They didn't promise a dang thing in fact.

Is there any such thing as a knee sprain that is not likely to take 3 weeks or more to heal?

Or are we delving into "Play him hurt, because I paid for tickets!"? Everyone knew he had a knee sprain, and people buy tickets anyway. Sure it's better with Lonzo on the floor, I understand feeling frustrated that Lonzo's sitting, but that's not on Luke or the Laker FO or Lonzo.

The idea that any of this could be deceptive to potential free agents is ludicrous. Again, the knee sprain was reported right off the bat. Free agents understand that drill. Late news it's a minor MCL sprain should be a relief, not a shock.

17 days. That's how long it's been.

And he's starting to move laterally. Again, MCL, not ACL. Not sure who's been lied to or hurt by this, other than our eyes watching Ennis fill in.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:03 pm    Post subject:

Sentient Meat wrote:
Why hide it then if it is so innocuous?

Just say next time that it's an MCL sprain.

Not bullsh*t answers.


Aren't all knee sprains involving a ligament though.....?
Sucks it's taken longer than they first kind of led on, but I guess it's why each grade of sprain has a timetable..from 1-3 weeks, sucks to hit the back end of that
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:15 pm    Post subject:

KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Sentient Meat wrote:
Why hide it then if it is so innocuous?

Just say next time that it's an MCL sprain.

Not bullsh*t answers.


Aren't all knee sprains involving a ligament though.....?
Sucks it's taken longer than they first kind of led on, but I guess it's why each grade of sprain has a timetable..from 1-3 weeks, sucks to hit the back end of that


Yes.

They probably didn't want to scare the common fan.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:18 pm    Post subject:

Laker_Town wrote:
update?

This thread is almost buried now. Wheres the face of the franchise????


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:19 pm    Post subject:

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@taniaganguli It's been an MCL sprain the whole time. I am not sure why they didn't say that to begin with. https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/status/958497541535956992



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I guess "sore knee" does sound better
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:19 pm    Post subject:

LakerSD wrote:
Out tomorrow...

https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/status/958464134529634304

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Lonzo Ball has started testing his knee laterally with the trainers, but not in a practice setting. The work that he did do didn’t make him feel worse, so that’s good. He’s making progress.


Progress is good.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:17 pm    Post subject:

We need to get Lavar on the next flight back to America ASAP.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:09 pm    Post subject:

Why hide it?

Ticket sales

You guys realize Lonzo is the draw. To say he will be out 4-8 weeks means people not tuning in and going to games. Then there is the media attention I'm sure everyone is tired of by now.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:11 pm    Post subject:

defense wrote:
Why hide it?

Ticket sales

You guys realize Lonzo is the draw. To say he will be out 4-8 weeks means people not tuning in and going to games. Then there is the media attention I'm sure everyone is tired of by now.


That isn't crazy. My interest nosedives when I find out he isn't playing.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:38 pm    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
defense wrote:
Why hide it?

Ticket sales

You guys realize Lonzo is the draw. To say he will be out 4-8 weeks means people not tuning in and going to games. Then there is the media attention I'm sure everyone is tired of by now.


That isn't crazy. My interest nosedives when I find out he isn't playing.


Conspiracy theory added: And now that the Lakers are actually winning without him, the Lakers reveal the truth. Oh dang!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:42 pm    Post subject:

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We need to get Lavar on the next flight back to America ASAP.


Said no one ever
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:44 pm    Post subject:

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Tania Ganguli -at- taniaganguli

Lonzo Ball will be out for tomorrow’s game in Orlando. He’s not practicing today.

4:17 PM - Jan 30, 2018
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:08 am    Post subject:

Julius Randle Says Lonzo Ball’s Return ‘Will Help A Lot’
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Even though the Los Angeles Lakers have looked better in recent weeks, the team undoubtedly would like to see rookie point guard Lonzo Ball return sooner rather than later. Ball is the catalyst for the Lakers’ offense and makes all of his teammates better.

“It will help a lot,” Julius Randle said. “Just his unselfishness, pushing the pace, ball movement. All that is contagious. So it will help a lot.”


http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-news-julius-randle-says-lonzo-ball-mcl-sprain-return-help-a-lot/2018/01/31/
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