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Baron Von Humongous
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| GoldenThroat wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Does anyone know where to find data on assisted/unassisted shooting percentages, not just made field goals? I'm trying specifically to find what Lonzo is shooting on assisted versus unassisted threes. |
On the player page on Basketball Reference, under "Shooting".
74.6% of Lonzo's 3's have been assisted. |
But how many of his misses were "assisted"?  |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| tox wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Does anyone know where to find data on assisted/unassisted shooting percentages, not just made field goals? I'm trying specifically to find what Lonzo is shooting on assisted versus unassisted threes. |
I do not, but I have also looked for that info. Sorry for the useless response. For 3s, I find catch & shoot vs. pullup tends to be a useful proxy. |
Thank you, that's probably the best way to go. I wish there was a way to triangulate his assisted v. unassisted makes with C&S v. pullup jumpers. Or I could just join Twitter and bug Cranjis to see if he's willing to share Synergy data lol. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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So 75% of his made threes are assisted and he shoots 32% on C&S threes versus 29% on pullup threes. Probably not enough data there to draw any meaningful conclusions. I do wonder what it would look like excluding his horrific shooting in November.
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epak
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: |
So 75% of his made threes are assisted and he shoots 31% on C&S threes versus 28% on pullup threes. Probably not enough data there to draw any meaningful conclusions. I do wonder what it would look like excluding his horrific shooting in November. |
You can do that.
Select the dates you want. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: |
So 75% of his made threes are assisted and he shoots 31% on C&S threes versus 28% on pullup threes. Probably not enough data there to draw any meaningful conclusions. I do wonder what it would look like excluding his horrific shooting in November. |
You can do that.
Select the dates you want. |
Ah ha!
So since December 1st he's still shooting 29% on his pullup threes, but hitting a respectable 38.7% on his C&S threes. The data lines up with the ol' eye test. |
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epak
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: |
So 75% of his made threes are assisted and he shoots 31% on C&S threes versus 28% on pullup threes. Probably not enough data there to draw any meaningful conclusions. I do wonder what it would look like excluding his horrific shooting in November. |
You can do that.
Select the dates you want. |
Ah ha!
So since December 1st he's still shooting 29% on his pullup threes, but hitting a respectable 38.7% on his C&S threes. The data lines up with the ol' eye test. |
Someone once said, if you use analytics and the good ol' eye test, that you are dangerous! I can't put a finger on who said it... |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Just saw the video with Lonzo shooting. He looks super gimpy. I wouldn't expect him back until after the All Star game. |
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AFireInside619
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| defense wrote: | | Just saw the video with Lonzo shooting. He looks super gimpy. I wouldn't expect him back until after the All Star game. |
That's fine. |
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KeepItRealOrElse
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| defense wrote: | | Just saw the video with Lonzo shooting. He looks super gimpy. I wouldn't expect him back until after the All Star game. |
Yeup. People are tripping if they think he looks right |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| defense wrote: | | Just saw the video with Lonzo shooting. He looks super gimpy. I wouldn't expect him back until after the All Star game. |
link? |
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| Quote: | | Luke Walton says that soreness not the issue with Lonzo Ball, but focus is on not pushing through pain. Walton said Lonzo did stuff yesterday until he felt pain & then stopped doing what he was doing and went to other non pain causing activities. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Sounds like Lakers are not going to let Lonzo play until he’s virtually pain free. He’s been working to the point of pain and when he feels it, they have him do something else that doesn’t hurt. As I wrote yesterday, there’s a distinct possibility he’s out until post All Star. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| 32 wrote: | @taniaganguli
| Quote: | | Sounds like Lakers are not going to let Lonzo play until he’s virtually pain free. He’s been working to the point of pain and when he feels it, they have him do something else that doesn’t hurt. As I wrote yesterday, there’s a distinct possibility he’s out until post All Star. |
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Sounds wise. Do not f&^% with the knee. |
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Vanquish
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm all for holding out Lonzo. We do not need a Cousins' like situation on our end. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| socalsp3 wrote: | | defense wrote: | | Just saw the video with Lonzo shooting. He looks super gimpy. I wouldn't expect him back until after the All Star game. |
link? |
Don't forget I update all this type of stuff in your friendly neighborhood Injuries/Absences thread
| TDRock wrote: | 2/6/18 vs. Phoenix Suns
Ball officially out per Trudell
Lonzo Ball won’t play tonight with that sore knee. Here he is going through a workout with asst. coach Miles Simon hours before the game as he continues to test how the knee responds.
(Video at link)
https://twitter.com/lakersreporter/status/961030222320582657
Go Lakers!
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GoldenThroat
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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FWIW, I saw Ingram getting shots up when they were testing his ankle before a game, and they had him going at a similar speed, which is probably smart.
Lonzo could be out for a while longer, but I wouldn't draw conclusions from that video. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: |
So 75% of his made threes are assisted and he shoots 31% on C&S threes versus 28% on pullup threes. Probably not enough data there to draw any meaningful conclusions. I do wonder what it would look like excluding his horrific shooting in November. |
You can do that.
Select the dates you want. |
Ah ha!
So since December 1st he's still shooting 29% on his pullup threes, but hitting a respectable 38.7% on his C&S threes. The data lines up with the ol' eye test. |
Someone once said, if you use analytics and the good ol' eye test, that you are dangerous! I can't put a finger on who said it... |
Confucius Throat? |
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LakerSD
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: |
So 75% of his made threes are assisted and he shoots 31% on C&S threes versus 28% on pullup threes. Probably not enough data there to draw any meaningful conclusions. I do wonder what it would look like excluding his horrific shooting in November. |
You can do that.
Select the dates you want. |
Ah ha!
So since December 1st he's still shooting 29% on his pullup threes, but hitting a respectable 38.7% on his C&S threes. The data lines up with the ol' eye test. |
Someone once said, if you use analytics and the good ol' eye test, that you are dangerous! I can't put a finger on who said it... |
Ahem... |
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epak
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerSD wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: |
So 75% of his made threes are assisted and he shoots 31% on C&S threes versus 28% on pullup threes. Probably not enough data there to draw any meaningful conclusions. I do wonder what it would look like excluding his horrific shooting in November. |
You can do that.
Select the dates you want. |
Ah ha!
So since December 1st he's still shooting 29% on his pullup threes, but hitting a respectable 38.7% on his C&S threes. The data lines up with the ol' eye test. |
Someone once said, if you use analytics and the good ol' eye test, that you are dangerous! I can't put a finger on who said it... |
Ahem... |
Someone had it in their sig.
I wonder who it was. |
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LakerSD
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: |
So 75% of his made threes are assisted and he shoots 31% on C&S threes versus 28% on pullup threes. Probably not enough data there to draw any meaningful conclusions. I do wonder what it would look like excluding his horrific shooting in November. |
You can do that.
Select the dates you want. |
Ah ha!
So since December 1st he's still shooting 29% on his pullup threes, but hitting a respectable 38.7% on his C&S threes. The data lines up with the ol' eye test. |
Someone once said, if you use analytics and the good ol' eye test, that you are dangerous! I can't put a finger on who said it... |
Ahem... |
Someone had it in their sig.
I wonder who it was. |
Not sure...I think some douche. |
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epak
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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^ you're not that bad  |
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tox
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| At some point the Lakers' win percentage without Lonzo is gonna exceed their win percentage with him. Wonder if that's gonna bring out the "bust" claims |
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LakerLogic
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Hurry back Zo, come join the fun. |
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lakersfever714
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Take your time, Lonzo. You wanna make sure every fiber of your body is in top shape before coming back. No rush, bro. |
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