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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:59 pm    Post subject:

If his knee is still bothering him it's got to be something more than a sprain
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:27 pm    Post subject:

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His knee is still sore. Officially listed as questionable tomorrow.


Wow.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:34 pm    Post subject:

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Lakers tried to divert the Mavericks gameplan but I'm sure they're going to draw it up as if Lonzo is playing. Luke trying to be Bill Beliceck on the injury report.


If Luke has to go with those tactics to beat a team that OPENLY WANTS TO LOSE. Wow.
So true!!! Frustrating AF.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:46 pm    Post subject:

32 wrote:
His knee is still sore. Officially listed as questionable tomorrow.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:51 pm    Post subject:

32 wrote:
His knee is still sore. Officially listed as questionable tomorrow.


Let’s not over dramatize the situation, he clearly stated in the practice interview today that he can play but that the staff has the final word, in fact he could have played a while back if the Lakers weren’t being so cautious
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:37 pm    Post subject:

I guess Lonzo can't shoot again.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:38 pm    Post subject:

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I guess Lonzo can't shoot again.


hard when you can't really use one of your legs fully...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:39 pm    Post subject:

KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
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I guess Lonzo can't shoot again.


hard when you can't really use one of your legs fully...


Yeah seems to be shooting exclusively with his arms/shoulder. No legs.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:11 pm    Post subject:

LakerLogic wrote:
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I guess Lonzo can't shoot again.


hard when you can't really use one of your legs fully...


Yeah seems to be shooting exclusively with his arms/shoulder. No legs.


He shoots just after the apex of his jump, I think. It’s either on his way down or when he lost all upward movement, so he loses a lot of of the work from his legs.

Plus, he gets the ball above his head so much later than a guy like Isaiah when you watch the two. All of that slows down his shot.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:04 am    Post subject:

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Lonzo’s shot looks smooth and fluid, maybe he’s been working really hard on that jumper while he was out a month


It looks exactly the same as before.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:07 am    Post subject:

32 wrote:
His knee is still sore. Officially listed as questionable tomorrow.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:47 am    Post subject:

leor_77 wrote:
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Lonzo’s shot looks smooth and fluid, maybe he’s been working really hard on that jumper while he was out a month


It looks exactly the same as before.


worse
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:33 am    Post subject:

leor_77 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
Lonzo’s shot looks smooth and fluid, maybe he’s been working really hard on that jumper while he was out a month


It looks exactly the same as before.



Yea. I don't see a difference.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:47 am    Post subject:

Watch the difference in the feet between the two. I honestly don't care about the way Lonzo brings the ball up any more. I just want him to fix his footwork.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:23 am    Post subject:

He’s all over the place. Looks like he’s just guessing.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:32 am    Post subject:

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He’s all over the place. Looks like he’s just guessing.


Splaying is the apt description to me.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:41 am    Post subject:

ESPN said he’ll be back tonight..
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:42 am    Post subject:

I want to see him apply more pressure on defenses for the remainder of the season

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:50 am    Post subject:

Scouting report hasn't changed, force him to shoot from the right.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:51 am    Post subject:

DancingBarry wrote:
LakerLogic wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
LakerLogic wrote:
I guess Lonzo can't shoot again.


hard when you can't really use one of your legs fully...


Yeah seems to be shooting exclusively with his arms/shoulder. No legs.


He shoots just after the apex of his jump, I think. It’s either on his way down or when he lost all upward movement, so he loses a lot of of the work from his legs.

Plus, he gets the ball above his head so much later than a guy like Isaiah when you watch the two. All of that slows down his shot.


I had to watch after reading this - he looks all over the map, but almost all of his misses that hit the front of the rim came from shots he launched late, after he reached the apex of his jump as you said. Oddly enough, he seemed to be hitting a good percentage from the peak, and going long when he launched on his way up where he gets the benefit of the work from his legs. Not a perfect correlation, but you can almost tell which ones are going in based on his timing. His timing did seem to get better the few times he trotted a couple steps and launched it.

I can't see how he can fix any other mechanic in his shot if he doesn't have the the footwork down. How do you drill muscle memory on any other fundamental when you're all over the map on your lift?

What really impressed me was how the Laker shooting coach was right there working with him all the way, walking him through his timing, demonstrating what to do, and not letting up until Lonzo had this right. The coach with the invisibility cloak.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:54 am    Post subject:

Does he have a basketball trainer other than his dad?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:59 am    Post subject:

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Does he have a basketball trainer other than his dad?
I've gotta wonder. Texting him from Lithuania, telling him his form is perfect and the rest of the NBA and rim placement is wrong most likely.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:04 am    Post subject:

He needs to get a real basketball trainer this summer. Dad's too busy and he took him as far as he could.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:18 am    Post subject:

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He needs to get a real basketball trainer this summer. Dad's too busy and he took him as far as he could.

This is essential. In fact if the Lakers don't insist doing this during the off season, as well as, during next season, it would be negligent or even criminal.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:21 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
Gimme_the_rock wrote:
He’s all over the place. Looks like he’s just guessing.


Splaying is the apt description to me.


Yeah. That’s accurate.

As was mentioned, his footwork is floppy. I’m sure he’s experiencing fatigue but his balance, in the worst moments, looks like a grade schooler.
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