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| His defense was SOLID tonight!!! Jumpers and passes too |
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governator
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| Megaton wrote: | | governator wrote: | | His defense was SOLID tonight!!! Jumpers and passes too |
His defense has been way more than solid this whole season.
His jumpers going in will make him truly unguardable. |
Something like made over 2 threes per game at close to 40% the last 14 game-ish |
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TooMuchMajicBuss
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Judah wrote: | | kobe_luver wrote: | | TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | Ball said he felt good once he warmed up. Good to hear.
He's getting his game back. And it looks like he's been honing in that shot after all. |
No....he faked the knee injury so he could work on his rapping career and signing $200 autographs. 
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Exactly. He would be so much better if he just focused on the game.
And by the way, I'm being facetious (since the last time I said something similar people lacked the discernment to tell  ) |
I remember that!  I think most of us knew better but why jump in and spoil the fun? |
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tox
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| That 3FG% is creeping its way up |
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TooMuchMajicBuss
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| governator wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | governator wrote: | | His defense was SOLID tonight!!! Jumpers and passes too |
His defense has been way more than solid this whole season.
His jumpers going in will make him truly unguardable. |
Something like made over 2 threes per game at close to 40% the last 14 game-ish |
Last 14 games - 37 for 89 if I'm not mistaken. Yup 41.5%. Just like his UCLA numbers. |
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| He looked healthy tonight! Should be even better Thursday. Yes. |
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| TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | | governator wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | governator wrote: | | His defense was SOLID tonight!!! Jumpers and passes too |
His defense has been way more than solid this whole season.
His jumpers going in will make him truly unguardable. |
Something like made over 2 threes per game at close to 40% the last 14 game-ish |
Last 14 games - 37 for 89 if I'm not mistaken. Yup 41.5%. Just like his UCLA numbers. |
What's hilarious was Bresnahan was talking about how defense is one of the things Lonzo has to work on. Seriously, so many NBA writers just bleat the same old preconceptions. Young player therefore bad defense. I'm baffled as to whether they watch the games.
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The Juggernaut
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| He's looked pretty good these last 2 games. The confidence is growing. Kid is going to be a high impact player in this league. |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| jonnybravo wrote: | | TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | | governator wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | governator wrote: | | His defense was SOLID tonight!!! Jumpers and passes too |
His defense has been way more than solid this whole season.
His jumpers going in will make him truly unguardable. |
Something like made over 2 threes per game at close to 40% the last 14 game-ish |
Last 14 games - 37 for 89 if I'm not mistaken. Yup 41.5%. Just like his UCLA numbers. |
What's hilarious was Bresnahan was talking about how defense is one of the things Lonzo has to work on. Seriously, so many NBA writers just bleat the same old preconceptions. Young player therefore bad defense. I'm baffled as to whether they watch the games. |
Lonzo is one of the better Laker defenders at the guard position in a LONG time.
Hart also sometimes forgets the NBA ranges of his assignments, but he is very tough to drive on or post up and rebounds like a demon.
I have said for years, until you tighten up the defense, the stats are worthless as far as offense.
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Car54
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| jonnybravo wrote: | | TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | | governator wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | governator wrote: | | His defense was SOLID tonight!!! Jumpers and passes too |
His defense has been way more than solid this whole season.
His jumpers going in will make him truly unguardable. |
Something like made over 2 threes per game at close to 40% the last 14 game-ish |
Last 14 games - 37 for 89 if I'm not mistaken. Yup 41.5%. Just like his UCLA numbers. |
What's hilarious was Bresnahan was talking about how defense is one of the things Lonzo has to work on. Seriously, so many NBA writers just bleat the same old preconceptions. Young player therefore bad defense. I'm baffled as to whether they watch the games. |
Most of these writers and radio host dont watch games thats why i call in to son them.
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LakerLogic
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| jonnybravo wrote: | | TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | | governator wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | governator wrote: | | His defense was SOLID tonight!!! Jumpers and passes too |
His defense has been way more than solid this whole season.
His jumpers going in will make him truly unguardable. |
Something like made over 2 threes per game at close to 40% the last 14 game-ish |
Last 14 games - 37 for 89 if I'm not mistaken. Yup 41.5%. Just like his UCLA numbers. |
What's hilarious was Bresnahan was talking about how defense is one of the things Lonzo has to work on. Seriously, so many NBA writers just bleat the same old preconceptions. Young player therefore bad defense. I'm baffled as to whether they watch the games. |
Yeah he does need to improve. Only top 10 in DRPM for all guards as a rookie. He should be #1 next year. |
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| Car54 wrote: | | jonnybravo wrote: | | TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | | governator wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | governator wrote: | | His defense was SOLID tonight!!! Jumpers and passes too |
His defense has been way more than solid this whole season.
His jumpers going in will make him truly unguardable. |
Something like made over 2 threes per game at close to 40% the last 14 game-ish |
Last 14 games - 37 for 89 if I'm not mistaken. Yup 41.5%. Just like his UCLA numbers. |
What's hilarious was Bresnahan was talking about how defense is one of the things Lonzo has to work on. Seriously, so many NBA writers just bleat the same old preconceptions. Young player therefore bad defense. I'm baffled as to whether they watch the games. |
Most of these writers and radio host dont watch games thats why i call in to son them. |
Seriously! These guys have one (bleep) job: Watch and research Lakers basketball. Bresnahan must have some dirt on TW Sports CEO cuz he has 0 business being on TV talking Lakers. |
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Car54
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| LakerLogic wrote: | | jonnybravo wrote: | | TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | | governator wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | governator wrote: | | His defense was SOLID tonight!!! Jumpers and passes too |
His defense has been way more than solid this whole season.
His jumpers going in will make him truly unguardable. |
Something like made over 2 threes per game at close to 40% the last 14 game-ish |
Last 14 games - 37 for 89 if I'm not mistaken. Yup 41.5%. Just like his UCLA numbers. |
What's hilarious was Bresnahan was talking about how defense is one of the things Lonzo has to work on. Seriously, so many NBA writers just bleat the same old preconceptions. Young player therefore bad defense. I'm baffled as to whether they watch the games. |
Yeah he does need to improve. Only top 10 in DRPM for all guards as a rookie. He should be #1 next year. |
Wow
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tox
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerLogic wrote: | | jonnybravo wrote: | | TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | | governator wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | governator wrote: | | His defense was SOLID tonight!!! Jumpers and passes too |
His defense has been way more than solid this whole season.
His jumpers going in will make him truly unguardable. |
Something like made over 2 threes per game at close to 40% the last 14 game-ish |
Last 14 games - 37 for 89 if I'm not mistaken. Yup 41.5%. Just like his UCLA numbers. |
What's hilarious was Bresnahan was talking about how defense is one of the things Lonzo has to work on. Seriously, so many NBA writers just bleat the same old preconceptions. Young player therefore bad defense. I'm baffled as to whether they watch the games. |
Yeah he does need to improve. Only top 10 in DRPM for all guards as a rookie. He should be #1 next year. |
Would love for him to get to #1. I think he'll get there. Idk about next year though |
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TooMuchMajicBuss
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| tox wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | jonnybravo wrote: | | TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | | governator wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | governator wrote: | | His defense was SOLID tonight!!! Jumpers and passes too |
His defense has been way more than solid this whole season.
His jumpers going in will make him truly unguardable. |
Something like made over 2 threes per game at close to 40% the last 14 game-ish |
Last 14 games - 37 for 89 if I'm not mistaken. Yup 41.5%. Just like his UCLA numbers. |
What's hilarious was Bresnahan was talking about how defense is one of the things Lonzo has to work on. Seriously, so many NBA writers just bleat the same old preconceptions. Young player therefore bad defense. I'm baffled as to whether they watch the games. |
Yeah he does need to improve. Only top 10 in DRPM for all guards as a rookie. He should be #1 next year. |
Would love for him to get to #1. I think he'll get there. Idk about next year though |
Just being top 10 DRPM for all guards is already elite, or pretty close to it. To do it as a 20 yo rookie? This is one of my favorite things to point out in non-Laker forums. People have no clue how good this guy is. |
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Not since a guy like Jason Kidd (which makes sense) have I seen a guy who's stat line doesn't tell even half the story. Ball has a way of putting his stamp on a game where, if you weren't paying attention, you'd think he did nothing at all. His game isn't meant for casual observers, which is why the national media has been so slow to get his value. I guarantee you though that, in today's advanced stats and analytics NBA, NBA front offices see what is going on - bet opposing players do too.
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| And yeah Jonnybravo - just embarrassing that stuff coming out of Bresnahan, who should know better by now. |
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Good to have him back 
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Coming off the injury, has this dude actually improved??
It’s early yet but damn. Zo is the real good.
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| LakerSanity wrote: | | Not since a guy like Jason Kidd (which makes sense) have I seen a guy who's stat line doesn't tell even half the story. Ball has a way of putting his stamp on a game where, if you weren't paying attention, you'd think he did nothing at all. His game isn't meant for casual observers, which is why the national media has been so slow to get his value. I guarantee you though that, in today's advanced stats and analytics NBA, NBA front offices see what is going on - bet opposing players do too. |
You're right. He's a guy that can impact the game at an elite level without godly stats or incredible HL plays. Jason Kidd or John Stockton style. |
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LakerLogic
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| tox wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | jonnybravo wrote: | | TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | | governator wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | governator wrote: | | His defense was SOLID tonight!!! Jumpers and passes too |
His defense has been way more than solid this whole season.
His jumpers going in will make him truly unguardable. |
Something like made over 2 threes per game at close to 40% the last 14 game-ish |
Last 14 games - 37 for 89 if I'm not mistaken. Yup 41.5%. Just like his UCLA numbers. |
What's hilarious was Bresnahan was talking about how defense is one of the things Lonzo has to work on. Seriously, so many NBA writers just bleat the same old preconceptions. Young player therefore bad defense. I'm baffled as to whether they watch the games. |
Yeah he does need to improve. Only top 10 in DRPM for all guards as a rookie. He should be #1 next year. |
Would love for him to get to #1. I think he'll get there. Idk about next year though |
I was being slightly facetious given the narrative that he can't play defense.
Interestingly, if you account for players getting 30+ minutes, he is actually top 20 in the entire NBA AS A ROOKIE. |
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JJin77
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| BynumForThree wrote: | | Lakers4Life33 wrote: | | Said it before and I'll say it again. Would not trade Lonzo straight up for ANYONE in the league. |
*sigh* |
I will trade Lonzo, Ingram, Kuz + 19 unprotected 1st rounder for Giannis in a heartbeat. Maybe for AD as well. |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerSanity wrote: | | Not since a guy like Jason Kidd (which makes sense) have I seen a guy who's stat line doesn't tell even half the story. Ball has a way of putting his stamp on a game where, if you weren't paying attention, you'd think he did nothing at all. His game isn't meant for casual observers, which is why the national media has been so slow to get his value. I guarantee you though that, in today's advanced stats and analytics NBA, NBA front offices see what is going on - bet opposing players do too. |
Paul George's praise was suuuuper high. When Lonzo is on his game on both ends, it looks like a guy who's in MVP discussions.. he didn't have the minutes or quite the (healthy) offensive impact tonight.. But I remember the Spurs game in January, jeez..that was play after play on both ends |
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LakerLogic
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| JJin77 wrote: | | BynumForThree wrote: | | Lakers4Life33 wrote: | | Said it before and I'll say it again. Would not trade Lonzo straight up for ANYONE in the league. |
*sigh* |
I will trade Lonzo, Ingram, Kuz + 19 unprotected 1st rounder for Giannis in a heartbeat. Maybe for AD as well. |
Nope. |
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