OFFICIAL LONZO BALL THREAD

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I don't believe cyberx. It feels like he just guesses and gets lucky once in a while like the Ryan Anderson thing. A random "insider" wouldn't have this much access to the workings of every team in the league.

[Jesusdelonla]

anything related to Lavar Ball, create a thread in general forum and knock him to death there.

please keep this thread about Lonzo ball, not lava ball

Thanks

[Baron Von Humongous]

[tofulakers]

There's no way Magic is still cool with all this extracurricular non-sense. Magic seems (or seemed) like a no-non-sense kind of guy, but he took the gamble. And, the gamble is not working out. Hope he mans up and makes the right business decision.

As a die-hard Laker fan, this drama is tiring. I want to feel proud about the Lakers again. On top of that all the distractions that have come up.

[epak]

One other way to look at it...

Why tell Lonzo to slow the roasting if he wasnt going to stay a laker? Why would it bother the FA talks? Magic simply has to tell LeBron he'd trade Lonzo if that were true.

But I want the Lakers to keep Zo, cuz I actually think he's going to have greater impact than the other youngns. Oh well. Oh wait, did magic do that to not lower Lonzo's trade value? Haha.

We'll see in 2 weeks.

[MJST]

Lonzo + Kuzma for Lillard? Pass on that.

Not really for the New York Knicks/Nets motif of trading away all your depth for a 2 year run you'll lose, and then be left with nothing at the end of and thus back in the tank for another 4-5 seasons.

If Portland wanted to get rid of Lillard, they could easily go ask Cleveland for Kevin Love + Cleveland's 8th pick and an additional piece.
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[christopherorman]

I think everyone -- including the media -- is going overboard on all of this. I think in other threads, I mentioned statistically what makes Ball special. If he develops any semblance of an offensive game, I personally believe he is the best player from this last draft class and I don't think it will be close. Yes, it is hard to project if that will happen, and yes it would be better if there were better early returns because god knows we live in a society now where it isn't about the journey but getting to the acme as fast as possible. But I think the stats already show that in his rookie year he had an astonishing DBPM, DRPM, and a positive RPM and BPM. That's special. That doesn't happen. I'm willing to wager there may not be a single player in this current draft who will have those kinds of positive numbers; with this last draft having 3.

[As an aside, if Ball went to the Spurs with their shooting coaches and development, I think there would be major, and I mean major, heartache in future seasons and tons of "told you sos..."]

But my comment is more about how I think media has changed and perceptions of players has changed. I also think it shows that FOs, luckily, are the ones making these decisions and not fans; especially if said fans are more motivated by being "proven right" about their beliefs about a certain player. Looking back, think about things players have done: (1) Jordan's gambling, resulting (it seems at least by inference) in his father getting killed; (2) Barkley, gambling, drinking, you name it; (3) Wilt setting bedroom records; (4) Magic, with many women; (5) Delonte West and that bizarreness; (6) Draymond Green's bar assault and multiple moments of stupidity (I'd trade him for his flat earth beliefs, personally!...I'm joking); and (6) Steve Francis and his issues.

I could go on. These people are humans. They aren't perfect. Heck, if you do some research, you'll find what I think is some disconcerting behavior about Tatum; everyone's golden child. And do you think Tatum is on the block for what TMZ is reporting? Probably not.

What we are talking about here are two young guys, ribbing each other, and being goofballs. Nothing more. They are humans. I can say I'd be better with that kind of stuff than all of what is listed above and that includes Tatum.

As for Lavar, don't listen. It's that simple. He has a brand to sell. It isn't selling. He's looking for soundbites and ways to sell his brand; and that means getting his other kid drafted. I don't seem to remember anyone going nuts about Lebron's mom and her outrageous statements and antics (or the whole seen around him) during his first few seasons. I think performance and results usually will end most of this in time and Lavar will fade away (and if you haven't noticed, he somewhat has).

Now, whether or not the FO believes Ball is better for this team in the long run versus Leonard, et al is a basketball decision. But I don't see the team flipping him based on this roasting stuff or his dad.

I'll conclude by wishing all the dad's out there -- ironic and I know a funky segue -- a happy father's day. Best wishes to you all for what you do for your children and your families.

[J.C. Smith]

I wish Lavar would shut his trap, but I don't think he's capable of it. He's hurting his own kids with his rhetoric.

[Gimme_the_rock]

Expect to hear a lot of crazy stuff surrounding or linking back to the Lakers. In addition to it being the relative norm of every off season, the FO is probably leaking their own fair share of false information too.
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[gsrbruin]

Rumor on 710 this morning is Lillard for zo, BI, Deng and a pick

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[AirKobe8]

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[AY2043]

[Inspector Gadget]

[Nash Vegas]

Wonder what LaVar is thinking, keeps talking about letting Lonzo walk from the Lakers, now Lonzo might just be part of a Kawhi package.
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[epak]

It come down to: Lebron, who do you want to stay on the Lakers? BI or Lonzo?

[Baron Von Humongous]

A lovely article on Lonzo's mom, Tina's, path to recovery: WaPo($)
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[epak]

Good news to everyone in this thread if what Romona said is true that SAS don't want Lonzo.