lol wow. I'd really hope the Lakers wouldn't be stupid enough to giftwrap a back court of Lonzo and Booker, along with Josh Jackson and Deandre Ayton as part of that core, JUST to rid of Deng's contract X_X
I was never a fan of the 2 max plan, precisely for these reasons. I doubt we do it, but, when you acquire LBJ and another star, everything is on the table.
Of course Phoenix would do it. It would be dumb not to. They are not signing FAs so taking on Deng doesn't matter. Basically get a transcendent PG for free.
No, it won't. For one thing, the Lakers value Lonzo so much more than they valued Russell (which they should). Secondly, these weird trade ideas involving Lonzo are directly related to Haynes’ speculation and ESPN's misrepresentation of what he said. The Lakers will probably get a flurry of calls about him from various teams leading up to the draft, all because of that comment by Haynes. The diss track certainly didn't help matters either, but either way it goes, the FO is not going to use him as a sweetener just to dump Deng. He's way too valuable for that. Same goes for BI, Kuz, and even Hart IMO. I'd much rather attach the two firsts to Deng. And if that can't get it done, stretch him. _________________ “Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
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If LBJ is coming (and possibly PG13 too) then the rational in trading Deng and Lonzo, would be to keep Randle, and not have to give away our first round picks, which might be nice to have if we have to retool the roster with cheap younger players, while we ride the new "superteam."
To me, if Deng HAS to be dealt (not stretched), would you rather have Lonzo (and his Dad) or the 2 first round picks.
For the record, I like Lonzo, he has a lot of skills for a first year player, other than shooting - which seems to be a Laker fetish, lottery draft picks who cant shoot the first couple of years. Although DLO and Kuzma are the exceptions. Probably this upcoming year BI will move out of the "cant shoot" catergory. _________________ LAKERS 2019-2020: NBA World Champions!
If LBJ is coming (and possibly PG13 too) then the rational in trading Deng and Lonzo, would be to keep Randle, and not have to give away our first round picks, which might be nice to have if we have to retool the roster with cheap younger players, while we ride the new "superteam."
To me, if Deng HAS to be dealt (not stretched), would you rather have Lonzo (and his Dad) or the 2 first round picks.
For the record, I like Lonzo, he has a lot of skills for a first year player, other than shooting - which seems to be a Laker fetish, lottery draft picks who cant shoot the first couple of years. Although DLO and Kuzma are the exceptions. Probably this upcoming year BI will move out of the "cant shoot" catergory.
Lonzo because if LeBron and PG come here, those picks would be in 20's (hopefully #30)
If LBJ is coming (and possibly PG13 too) then the rational in trading Deng and Lonzo, would be to keep Randle, and not have to give away our first round picks, which might be nice to have if we have to retool the roster with cheap younger players, while we ride the new "superteam."
To me, if Deng HAS to be dealt (not stretched), would you rather have Lonzo (and his Dad) or the 2 first round picks.
For the record, I like Lonzo, he has a lot of skills for a first year player, other than shooting - which seems to be a Laker fetish, lottery draft picks who cant shoot the first couple of years. Although DLO and Kuzma are the exceptions. Probably this upcoming year BI will move out of the "cant shoot" catergory.
The 2 first round picks will be at the end of the 1st round because we'll be one of if not the top NBA team. Much rather have #2 pick Lonzo than 2 of the 28, 29 or 30th picks.
Lonzo Ball was one of the best defensive guards in the league his rookie year; Let's talk about it Lonzo Ball’s lockdown defense saved his rookie season; Lonzo Ball was one of the best defensive guards in the NBA this season and we need to talk about it.
Using ESPN’s defensive real plus-minus, Ball finished the season ranked No. 3 overall among point guards with a positive score of plus-2.25, ahead of acclaimed defensive stalwarts like Jrue Holiday, Ricky Rubio and Marcus Smart. Granted, Ball played in only 52 games this season, but when he was on the floor he showed all the ways he could impact a game on the defensive end.
Ball finished his rookie season with averages of 10.2 points, 6.9 rebounds, 7.2 assists and 1.7 steals per game. According to basketball-reference.com, only three rookies in NBA history have averaged at least 5 assists, 5 defensive rebounds, and 1.5 steals per game: Ball, Ben Simmons and Magic Johnson.
While Ball and Simmons are just getting their NBA careers started, they could do worse than being historically tied to arguably the greatest point guard to ever lace them up.
However, unlike Ball and Simmons, Ball was not physically imposing his rookie season. Even though he has nice length for the point guard position (6-6 with a 6-9 wingspan), no one was going to struggle to push through Ball’s 190-lb. frame and he found that out right away.
So instead of trying to bang bodies with guys that were much more physically mature than him at this stage of his career, Ball used every inch of his lanky frame to his advantage and made life hard on opposing guards, bigs, and sometimes both.
If LBJ is coming (and possibly PG13 too) then the rational in trading Deng and Lonzo, would be to keep Randle, and not have to give away our first round picks, which might be nice to have if we have to retool the roster with cheap younger players, while we ride the new "superteam."
To me, if Deng HAS to be dealt (not stretched), would you rather have Lonzo (and his Dad) or the 2 first round picks.
For the record, I like Lonzo, he has a lot of skills for a first year player, other than shooting - which seems to be a Laker fetish, lottery draft picks who cant shoot the first couple of years. Although DLO and Kuzma are the exceptions. Probably this upcoming year BI will move out of the "cant shoot" catergory.
stop saying lonzo and his dad. lavar doesnt play in the nba. there is no real basketball mind thats trying to win a ring even remotely caring about lavar. only you guys do. he has nothing to do with how the team plays and who they pick or play.
Lonzo Ball was one of the best defensive guards in the league his rookie year; Let's talk about it Lonzo Ball’s lockdown defense saved his rookie season; Lonzo Ball was one of the best defensive guards in the NBA this season and we need to talk about it.
Using ESPN’s defensive real plus-minus, Ball finished the season ranked No. 3 overall among point guards with a positive score of plus-2.25, ahead of acclaimed defensive stalwarts like Jrue Holiday, Ricky Rubio and Marcus Smart. Granted, Ball played in only 52 games this season, but when he was on the floor he showed all the ways he could impact a game on the defensive end.
Ball finished his rookie season with averages of 10.2 points, 6.9 rebounds, 7.2 assists and 1.7 steals per game. According to basketball-reference.com, only three rookies in NBA history have averaged at least 5 assists, 5 defensive rebounds, and 1.5 steals per game: Ball, Ben Simmons and Magic Johnson.
While Ball and Simmons are just getting their NBA careers started, they could do worse than being historically tied to arguably the greatest point guard to ever lace them up.
However, unlike Ball and Simmons, Ball was not physically imposing his rookie season. Even though he has nice length for the point guard position (6-6 with a 6-9 wingspan), no one was going to struggle to push through Ball’s 190-lb. frame and he found that out right away.
So instead of trying to bang bodies with guys that were much more physically mature than him at this stage of his career, Ball used every inch of his lanky frame to his advantage and made life hard on opposing guards, bigs, and sometimes both.
Lonzo Ball was one of the best defensive guards in the league his rookie year; Let's talk about it Lonzo Ball’s lockdown defense saved his rookie season; Lonzo Ball was one of the best defensive guards in the NBA this season and we need to talk about it.
Using ESPN’s defensive real plus-minus, Ball finished the season ranked No. 3 overall among point guards with a positive score of plus-2.25, ahead of acclaimed defensive stalwarts like Jrue Holiday, Ricky Rubio and Marcus Smart. Granted, Ball played in only 52 games this season, but when he was on the floor he showed all the ways he could impact a game on the defensive end.
Ball finished his rookie season with averages of 10.2 points, 6.9 rebounds, 7.2 assists and 1.7 steals per game. According to basketball-reference.com, only three rookies in NBA history have averaged at least 5 assists, 5 defensive rebounds, and 1.5 steals per game: Ball, Ben Simmons and Magic Johnson.
While Ball and Simmons are just getting their NBA careers started, they could do worse than being historically tied to arguably the greatest point guard to ever lace them up.
However, unlike Ball and Simmons, Ball was not physically imposing his rookie season. Even though he has nice length for the point guard position (6-6 with a 6-9 wingspan), no one was going to struggle to push through Ball’s 190-lb. frame and he found that out right away.
So instead of trying to bang bodies with guys that were much more physically mature than him at this stage of his career, Ball used every inch of his lanky frame to his advantage and made life hard on opposing guards, bigs, and sometimes both.
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:44 pm Post subject:
waterman40 wrote:
If LBJ is coming (and possibly PG13 too) then the rational in trading Deng and Lonzo, would be to keep Randle, and not have to give away our first round picks, which might be nice to have if we have to retool the roster with cheap younger players, while we ride the new "superteam."
To me, if Deng HAS to be dealt (not stretched), would you rather have Lonzo (and his Dad) or the 2 first round picks.
For the record, I like Lonzo, he has a lot of skills for a first year player, other than shooting - which seems to be a Laker fetish, lottery draft picks who cant shoot the first couple of years. Although DLO and Kuzma are the exceptions. Probably this upcoming year BI will move out of the "cant shoot" catergory.
Lonzo easily _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
Remember the pop interview after Lavar said Luke lost the team?
Ironic that it may have saved Lonzo from being traded there.
Like some have said, it'll probably take a 3rd team.
But hopefully he stays, improves his shot and opens eyes.
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