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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:35 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:10 pm    Post subject:

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1200 pages.

1st post, yaa baby



how do you guys know which post is going to start the next page? Like how did you know this post will appear on 1200 and not on 1199?
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BigGameHames wrote:
1ngr4m wrote:
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I hope injury is the only reason Lonzo is coming off the bench, dude might be our second best player this season potentially.

I have Lonzo and BI as our 2nd and 3rd best players in either order depending on the improvements.


If Lonzo improved more than Ingram this year, wowo

Cuz Ingram worked all summer while Lonzo was recovering from injury.

That means Ingram, no matter how hard he works, just can't improve that much

Ingram definitely worked harder than Lonzo this offseason


Lonzo was better last year and a bigger jump is expected from year 1 to 2 than year 2 to 3 IMO so I don’t think you can say Ingram can’t improve much even if Lonzo is better this year.


I don't know if this makes sense but Lonzo was more impactful last year while Ingram was the better player IMO.

Lonzo's impact was undeniable, but his lack of scoring holds him down as an individual player.


I get the vibe from a lot of people that this is how they feel but I can’t understand it. The player who has more of a positive impact on their team is the better player. It’s that simple to me. Maybe you find Ingram more aesthetically pleasing or just more talented overall and that where it comes from but if he doesn’t have as much of an impact, he’s a worse player. The game is about combining talent/skill with IQ and with effort to help your team win. The players who do that the most are the better players. That was Lonzo last year. Potential/measurables/skill sets are irrelevant if they can’t be used on the court in a manner that helps win games.
gotta agree on your points. we've all seen players fill up the box scores and LOOK good to the eye test but then you realize that guys team aint going anywhere year in and year out. why? oh now i see why, his stats do not impact his team enough to earn more wins than loses.


Brandon Ingram isn't an empty numbers player, Lonzo Ball is just way ahead of the curve for how much his numbers effect the game for a 20 year old.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:33 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:57 pm    Post subject:

BigGameHames wrote:
1ngr4m wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
LongBeachPoly wrote:
1ngr4m wrote:
I hope injury is the only reason Lonzo is coming off the bench, dude might be our second best player this season potentially.

I have Lonzo and BI as our 2nd and 3rd best players in either order depending on the improvements.


If Lonzo improved more than Ingram this year, wowo

Cuz Ingram worked all summer while Lonzo was recovering from injury.

That means Ingram, no matter how hard he works, just can't improve that much

Ingram definitely worked harder than Lonzo this offseason


Lonzo was better last year and a bigger jump is expected from year 1 to 2 than year 2 to 3 IMO so I don’t think you can say Ingram can’t improve much even if Lonzo is better this year.


I don't know if this makes sense but Lonzo was more impactful last year while Ingram was the better player IMO.

Lonzo's impact was undeniable, but his lack of scoring holds him down as an individual player.


I get the vibe from a lot of people that this is how they feel but I can’t understand it. The player who has more of a positive impact on their team is the better player. It’s that simple to me. Maybe you find Ingram more aesthetically pleasing or just more talented overall and that where it comes from but if he doesn’t have as much of an impact, he’s a worse player. The game is about combining talent/skill with IQ and with effort to help your team win. The players who do that the most are the better players. That was Lonzo last year. Potential/measurables/skill sets are irrelevant if they can’t be used on the court in a manner that helps win games.


Your argument has sound points but does not consider ROLE!! Thats the problem with some of the advance measurements... they dont consider the players role in the offense!
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Jesusdelonla wrote:
1200 pages.

1st post, yaa baby



how do you guys know which post is going to start the next page? Like how did you know this post will appear on 1200 and not on 1199?


Just lucky. I posted something and it became the 1st post of the 1200 page so I just changed my post


Hehe
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:15 pm    Post subject:

Jesusdelonla wrote:
1ngr4m wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
1200 pages.

1st post, yaa baby



how do you guys know which post is going to start the next page? Like how did you know this post will appear on 1200 and not on 1199?


Just lucky. I posted something and it became the 1st post of the 1200 page so I just changed my post


Hehe


Counting also works. 25 posts per page =)
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lakersibleed wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
1ngr4m wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
LongBeachPoly wrote:
1ngr4m wrote:
I hope injury is the only reason Lonzo is coming off the bench, dude might be our second best player this season potentially.

I have Lonzo and BI as our 2nd and 3rd best players in either order depending on the improvements.


If Lonzo improved more than Ingram this year, wowo

Cuz Ingram worked all summer while Lonzo was recovering from injury.

That means Ingram, no matter how hard he works, just can't improve that much

Ingram definitely worked harder than Lonzo this offseason


Lonzo was better last year and a bigger jump is expected from year 1 to 2 than year 2 to 3 IMO so I don’t think you can say Ingram can’t improve much even if Lonzo is better this year.


I don't know if this makes sense but Lonzo was more impactful last year while Ingram was the better player IMO.

Lonzo's impact was undeniable, but his lack of scoring holds him down as an individual player.


I get the vibe from a lot of people that this is how they feel but I can’t understand it. The player who has more of a positive impact on their team is the better player. It’s that simple to me. Maybe you find Ingram more aesthetically pleasing or just more talented overall and that where it comes from but if he doesn’t have as much of an impact, he’s a worse player. The game is about combining talent/skill with IQ and with effort to help your team win. The players who do that the most are the better players. That was Lonzo last year. Potential/measurables/skill sets are irrelevant if they can’t be used on the court in a manner that helps win games.


Your argument has sound points but does not consider ROLE!! Thats the problem with some of the advance measurements... they dont consider the players role in the offense!


This is not based off analtycs. Considering roles probably gives even more of an edge to Ball.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:23 pm    Post subject:

Zo gonna take that starting job back.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:32 pm    Post subject:

ringfinger wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
1ngr4m wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
1200 pages.

1st post, yaa baby



how do you guys know which post is going to start the next page? Like how did you know this post will appear on 1200 and not on 1199?


Just lucky. I posted something and it became the 1st post of the 1200 page so I just changed my post


Hehe


Counting also works. 25 posts per page =)


Too much work I would never do that. 14 posts to go on this page.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:47 am    Post subject:

1ngr4m wrote:
splashmtn wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
1ngr4m wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
LongBeachPoly wrote:
1ngr4m wrote:
I hope injury is the only reason Lonzo is coming off the bench, dude might be our second best player this season potentially.

I have Lonzo and BI as our 2nd and 3rd best players in either order depending on the improvements.


If Lonzo improved more than Ingram this year, wowo

Cuz Ingram worked all summer while Lonzo was recovering from injury.

That means Ingram, no matter how hard he works, just can't improve that much

Ingram definitely worked harder than Lonzo this offseason


Lonzo was better last year and a bigger jump is expected from year 1 to 2 than year 2 to 3 IMO so I don’t think you can say Ingram can’t improve much even if Lonzo is better this year.


I don't know if this makes sense but Lonzo was more impactful last year while Ingram was the better player IMO.

Lonzo's impact was undeniable, but his lack of scoring holds him down as an individual player.


I get the vibe from a lot of people that this is how they feel but I can’t understand it. The player who has more of a positive impact on their team is the better player. It’s that simple to me. Maybe you find Ingram more aesthetically pleasing or just more talented overall and that where it comes from but if he doesn’t have as much of an impact, he’s a worse player. The game is about combining talent/skill with IQ and with effort to help your team win. The players who do that the most are the better players. That was Lonzo last year. Potential/measurables/skill sets are irrelevant if they can’t be used on the court in a manner that helps win games.
gotta agree on your points. we've all seen players fill up the box scores and LOOK good to the eye test but then you realize that guys team aint going anywhere year in and year out. why? oh now i see why, his stats do not impact his team enough to earn more wins than loses.


Brandon Ingram isn't an empty numbers player, Lonzo Ball is just way ahead of the curve for how much his numbers effect the game for a 20 year old.
i wasnt talking down on our guy BI at all. I was just stating the reality of someone who may or may not provide the flash of a nice stat line but still help his team win vs a guy with a nice line but his teams dont seem to win a lot.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:10 am    Post subject:

Lonzo Ball Reveals Second Signature Sneaker, The BBB ZO2.19


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Thirteen months after the reveal of the ZO2 Remix, Lonzo Ball‘s and Big Baller Brand’s first signature shoe, the company is now introducing the second signature sneaker under the ZO2 collection.
The “ZO2.19” will be worn by Zo during his upcoming sophomore season with the Los Angeles Lakers.


http://www.slamonline.com/kicks/exclusive-lonzo-ball-reveals-the-zo2-19/
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:19 am    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:38 am    Post subject:

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Lonzo Ball Reveals Second Signature Sneaker, The BBB ZO2.19


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Thirteen months after the reveal of the ZO2 Remix, Lonzo Ball‘s and Big Baller Brand’s first signature shoe, the company is now introducing the second signature sneaker under the ZO2 collection.
The “ZO2.19” will be worn by Zo during his upcoming sophomore season with the Los Angeles Lakers.


http://www.slamonline.com/kicks/exclusive-lonzo-ball-reveals-the-zo2-19/

Much like Lonzo's game, there are some polarizing strengths and weaknesses in the design of his new shoe.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:47 am    Post subject:

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Lonzo Ball Reveals Second Signature Sneaker, The BBB ZO2.19


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Thirteen months after the reveal of the ZO2 Remix, Lonzo Ball‘s and Big Baller Brand’s first signature shoe, the company is now introducing the second signature sneaker under the ZO2 collection.
The “ZO2.19” will be worn by Zo during his upcoming sophomore season with the Los Angeles Lakers.


http://www.slamonline.com/kicks/exclusive-lonzo-ball-reveals-the-zo2-19/


Not bad tbh
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:49 am    Post subject:

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pio2u wrote:
Lonzo Ball Reveals Second Signature Sneaker, The BBB ZO2.19


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Thirteen months after the reveal of the ZO2 Remix, Lonzo Ball‘s and Big Baller Brand’s first signature shoe, the company is now introducing the second signature sneaker under the ZO2 collection.
The “ZO2.19” will be worn by Zo during his upcoming sophomore season with the Los Angeles Lakers.


http://www.slamonline.com/kicks/exclusive-lonzo-ball-reveals-the-zo2-19/


Not bad tbh


Yup.....It's actually really good.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:03 am    Post subject:

Same price point?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:05 am    Post subject:

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Same price point?

No, down to $200
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:05 am    Post subject:

Is Lonzo's shoe efficient and a high +/- like his game?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:09 am    Post subject:

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Is Lonzo's shoe efficient and a high +/- like his game?


It won't be efficient on your wallet.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:28 am    Post subject:

How much of the $200 goes to his baby momma?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:30 am    Post subject:

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How much of the $200 goes to his baby momma?

Baby needs a new pair of what?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:39 am    Post subject:

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How much of the $200 goes to his baby momma?

Baby needs a new pair of what?


How about some BBBB (baby BBB) products?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:46 am    Post subject:

pio2u wrote:
Lonzo Ball Reveals Second Signature Sneaker, The BBB ZO2.19


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Thirteen months after the reveal of the ZO2 Remix, Lonzo Ball‘s and Big Baller Brand’s first signature shoe, the company is now introducing the second signature sneaker under the ZO2 collection.
The “ZO2.19” will be worn by Zo during his upcoming sophomore season with the Los Angeles Lakers.


http://www.slamonline.com/kicks/exclusive-lonzo-ball-reveals-the-zo2-19/
That BBB logo needs to go.
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