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24Legend007
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | I'd take Steve Nash's career over Allen Iverson's. I don't know about anybody else. |
Scorers do generally take more punishment. |
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NotHype
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Let’s compare a career 42% 3point shooter to a guy who shoots that percentage at the freethrow line  |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| NotHype wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | I'd take Steve Nash's career over Allen Iverson's. I don't know about anybody else. |
Steve Nash could shoot. |
True, you make an obvious observation.
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| NotHype wrote: | | PlantedTanks wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | Aggressiveness on the court: attacking the basket, getting FTs, taking shots, etc. |
How about rebounding and pushing the ball, jumping passing lanes, and providing weakside blocks? Does that take aggressiveness? |
He's not aggressive offensively. |
Aggressive with his passes and taking 3pt shots. He does attack the lane but passes too often. Needs to be more selfish and take the shot instead of a kick out which I believe he will this season.
So it depends on how you define aggressive. |
Lonzo Ball being more selfish will likely result in even lower shooting percentage. He is not a scorer, never will be. We knew this when we had the opportunity to select Tatum. |
So being more selfish by scoring at the hoop will lower his fg%? Did you understand the context of my post? You don't believe he will be more efficient scoring in this manner? |
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NotHype
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| PlantedTanks wrote: | | NotHype wrote: | | PlantedTanks wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | Aggressiveness on the court: attacking the basket, getting FTs, taking shots, etc. |
How about rebounding and pushing the ball, jumping passing lanes, and providing weakside blocks? Does that take aggressiveness? |
He's not aggressive offensively. |
Aggressive with his passes and taking 3pt shots. He does attack the lane but passes too often. Needs to be more selfish and take the shot instead of a kick out which I believe he will this season.
So it depends on how you define aggressive. |
Lonzo Ball being more selfish will likely result in even lower shooting percentage. He is not a scorer, never will be. We knew this when we had the opportunity to select Tatum. |
So being more selfish by scoring at the hoop will lower his fg%? Did you understand the context of my post? You don't believe he will be more efficient scoring in this manner? |
As of right now there’s no evidence that leads me to believe he will score more efficiently at the rim. |
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PlantedTanks
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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| NotHype wrote: | | Let’s compare a career 42% 3point shooter to a guy who shoots that percentage at the freethrow line |
Sure I'll compare
SN first 4 years 3.3, 9.1, 7.9, 8.6 ppg as a 22,23,24 and 25 year old.
LB 10.2 as a 20 year old.
Quite a few stats in favor of LB just as there are a few in SN's favor. |
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PlantedTanks
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| NotHype wrote: | | PlantedTanks wrote: | | NotHype wrote: | | PlantedTanks wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | Aggressiveness on the court: attacking the basket, getting FTs, taking shots, etc. |
How about rebounding and pushing the ball, jumping passing lanes, and providing weakside blocks? Does that take aggressiveness? |
He's not aggressive offensively. |
Aggressive with his passes and taking 3pt shots. He does attack the lane but passes too often. Needs to be more selfish and take the shot instead of a kick out which I believe he will this season.
So it depends on how you define aggressive. |
Lonzo Ball being more selfish will likely result in even lower shooting percentage. He is not a scorer, never will be. We knew this when we had the opportunity to select Tatum. |
So being more selfish by scoring at the hoop will lower his fg%? Did you understand the context of my post? You don't believe he will be more efficient scoring in this manner? |
As of right now there’s no evidence that leads me to believe he will score more efficiently at the rim. |
I was waiting for that. He scored 50% on attempts 0-3 ft last season. Even if that doesn't change but he increased his usage wouldn't he be more efficient?
You can say it will go down but as you stated there is no evidence of that. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| NotHype wrote: | | Let’s compare a career 42% 3point shooter to a guy who shoots that percentage at the freethrow line |
Do you think I'm comparing Jayson Tatum and Allen Iverson?
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PlantedTanks
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | NotHype wrote: | | Let’s compare a career 42% 3point shooter to a guy who shoots that percentage at the freethrow line |
Do you think I'm comparing Jayson Tatum and Allen Iverson? |
Seeing he mentioned Steve Nash I assumed it is Nash vs. Lonzo. Nash is a 42.8 % 3pt shooter and LO 45% FT last season. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| PlantedTanks wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | NotHype wrote: | | Let’s compare a career 42% 3point shooter to a guy who shoots that percentage at the freethrow line |
Do you think I'm comparing Jayson Tatum and Allen Iverson? |
Seeing he mentioned Steve Nash I assumed it is Nash vs. Lonzo. Nash is a 42.8 % 3pt shooter and LO 45% FT last season. |
I wanted to point out that players develop at different rates and that their career trajectories can change over time, but the poster who doesn't seem to think much of Lonzo after one season thought I was making a literal comparison between AI and Tatum.
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PlantedTanks
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | PlantedTanks wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | Aggressiveness on the court: attacking the basket, getting FTs, taking shots, etc. |
How about rebounding and pushing the ball, jumping passing lanes, and providing weakside blocks? Does that take aggressiveness? |
And a good screener. Just not aggressive when he has the ball |
Maybe we can term Lonzo as passive-agressive |
It’s why he’s the perfect fit with LeBron. |
You know you are right. |
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PlantedTanks
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | PlantedTanks wrote: | | Judah wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | blackmamba08 wrote: | | I am big fan of Lonzo but his body language is scary for me. He lacks interest in my opinion. On the court but also during these videos form practice. Its his mentality I know but its not a good thing for sure. |
Tim Duncan |
James Harden. |
Kawhi Leonard |
D’Angelo Russell |
Mr. Ice in my veins. Ahhh not sure about this. |
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24Legend007
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| PlantedTanks wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | PlantedTanks wrote: | | Judah wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | blackmamba08 wrote: | | I am big fan of Lonzo but his body language is scary for me. He lacks interest in my opinion. On the court but also during these videos form practice. Its his mentality I know but its not a good thing for sure. |
Tim Duncan |
James Harden. |
Kawhi Leonard |
D’Angelo Russell |
Mr. Ice in my veins. Ahhh not sure about this. |
To be honest his playing style would probably be cool with Lebron. It's just like where is his mind at? I was for drafting Dlo. But I see why the team chose him to part with ways first out of our top prospects. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Decent 1st stint from him.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| It's gonna be awesome when the haters can't talk about his 3 ball. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | It's gonna be awesome when the haters can't talk about his 3 ball. |
Seriously
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Playing a nice game tonight. Very active on both ends.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| best player on the our team tonight. If the shot remains consistant ill be a fan soon. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| He’s an extremely smart defender. Knows how to play the angles extremely well and takes advantage of his height. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Good bounceback game from him.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Shout out to Rajon Rondo, assisted the starting spot straight to Lonzo.
He ain't getting it back
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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Lonzo looked a lot more like himself tonight and shot the ball a lot better tonight.
I guess he's going to be starting again now. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| He was our best player tonight. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| best defender!! |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Loving the hyperactivity in the second half along with the shooting overall.
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