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splashmtn Star Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Laker_Town wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Since its all positivity in this thread tonight, let me be a negative nancy: are his layup attempts against size fixable? |
His layups are worst than Fisher's.
He still needs to add a floater game.
Did anyone see Lance correcting him about something during the play where:
Lance passed to ball in the corner. Ball faked a shot and drove to alley to McGee for the dunk.
Lance then said something to him and ball threw his palms up in the air like "wth"
Did Lance want him to shoot? | he has high school layup syndrome. lol.
he doesnt NEED a floater. it would be nice if he had one. remember this dude is like 6'6 or so. he needs to learn how to go into the paint with guys in there and finish strong, protect the ball to the last moment then put it on the glass nicely or lay it in/dunk it.
when in the paint shooting, he plays like a 5'8 guy without a floater, which is why you're saying he needs one since he plays so small in there. he needs to play his height. |
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KB824MJ Star Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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When he got in the paint, I really thought he was going to go up, pump fake, create space and layup, but he tossed it out to the perimeter...guy needs to play with a tougher mindset. To me, his mindset looks very fragile. |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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tox wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Laker_Town wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Since its all positivity in this thread tonight, let me be a negative nancy: are his layup attempts against size fixable? |
His layups are worst than Fisher's.
He still needs to add a floater game.
Did anyone see Lance correcting him about something during the play where:
Lance passed to ball in the corner. Ball faked a shot and drove to alley to McGee for the dunk.
Lance then said something to him and ball threw his palms up in the air like "wth"
Did Lance want him to shoot? |
Lonzo and Lance clearly dislike each other. |
Tale as old as time
High IQ vs No IQ |
The whole LG community sees it. _________________ Under New Management |
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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splashmtn wrote: | PRLakeShow wrote: | He's the only silver lining from this mess of a game. | BI was shooting like 60% or so. rondo was money too. now kcp, josh hart, and kuz? brick city most of the game. |
I hate brick city. |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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KB824MJ wrote: | When he got in the paint, I really thought he was going to go up, pump fake, create space and layup, but he tossed it out to the perimeter...guy needs to play with a tougher mindset. To me, his mindset looks very fragile. |
When he passed to a wide open Lebron for a corner 3? Or a different play? _________________ Under New Management |
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Kobe8 Rookie
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | KB824MJ wrote: | When he got in the paint, I really thought he was going to go up, pump fake, create space and layup, but he tossed it out to the perimeter...guy needs to play with a tougher mindset. To me, his mindset looks very fragile. |
When he passed to a wide open Lebron for a corner 3? Or a different play? |
Different play.
I think it went to Kuzma |
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LKA Star Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Lonzo is the only one looking promising so far of the young core .. |
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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KB824MJ wrote: | When he got in the paint, I really thought he was going to go up, pump fake, create space and layup, but he tossed it out to the perimeter...guy needs to play with a tougher mindset. To me, his mindset looks very fragile. |
Tell me more Sigmund Freud |
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chantruong Star Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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LKA wrote: | Lonzo is the only one looking promising so far of the young core .. |
I know its not you, but first only Hart now its only Lonzo |
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LakerLogic Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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LKA wrote: | Lonzo is the only one looking promising so far of the young core .. |
Hart is solid.
Kuz has regressed and BI hasn't improved a whole lot. |
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Staccatos Star Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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chantruong wrote: | LKA wrote: | Lonzo is the only one looking promising so far of the young core .. |
I know its not you, but first only Hart now its only Lonzo |
It rotates around like the dealer chip in poker. |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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LKA wrote: | Lonzo is the only one looking promising so far of the young core .. |
I'm glad Lonzo had a good game tonight, but all four main young guys have shown flashes in only two games. _________________ Under New Management |
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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LakerLogic wrote: | LKA wrote: | Lonzo is the only one looking promising so far of the young core .. |
Hart is solid.
Kuz has regressed and BI hasn't improved a whole lot. |
Hart will be a great role player for the Lakers for years to come. In the ilk of Michael Cooper and Rick Fox. |
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LKA Star Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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LakerLogic wrote: | LKA wrote: | Lonzo is the only one looking promising so far of the young core .. |
Hart is solid.
Kuz has regressed and BI hasn't improved a whole lot. |
True Hart is usually solid but he was clanking some shots tonight and defense wasn’t too great
Kuzma is now 2-12 from deep in the first 2 games
I forgot Ingram was even on the court ..
Lonzo shot well tonight .. he does everything else very well on the court so that’s usually what it comes down to with him. |
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splashmtn Star Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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LakerLogic wrote: | LKA wrote: | Lonzo is the only one looking promising so far of the young core .. |
Hart is solid.
Kuz has regressed and BI hasn't improved a whole lot. | i'll say it again. BI was shooting 60%+ before the fight. |
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Captain America Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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LakerLogic wrote: | LKA wrote: | Lonzo is the only one looking promising so far of the young core .. |
Hart is solid.
Kuz has regressed and BI hasn't improved a whole lot. | How has Hart been solid? He's been awful for going on two seasons now. Atrocious defender and mediocre/limited offensive player. Only positive attributes are decent three point shooter and decent rebounder for a guard. He's basically a stretch 4 without the size, which is brutally bad.
Agreed that Lonzo continues to look outstanding, rounding into last seasons form tonight after a pedestrian game 1. We need to get him more minutes.
BI will always be a limited player with his current frame but he has moments.i think he would be better off the bench though once we get a true starting caliber SF or PF to pair with LeBron. Like that BI showed a little dog tonight though.
Kuz is the same player we've seen minus the hot streak of offense last year. Hopefully he snaps out of it and can become decent offenseively because his defense leaves a lot to be desired.
Obviously most of our problems could be fixed if we could get a Brook Lopez level center but Brook desrvedly got a Max deal... Oh wait we are paying Lance Stephenson more than BroLo could have been had for.... |
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splashmtn Star Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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LKA wrote: | LakerLogic wrote: | LKA wrote: | Lonzo is the only one looking promising so far of the young core .. |
Hart is solid.
Kuz has regressed and BI hasn't improved a whole lot. |
True Hart is usually solid but he was clanking some shots tonight and defense wasn’t too great
Kuzma is now 2-12 from deep in the first 2 games
I forgot Ingram was even on the court ..
Lonzo shot well tonight .. he does everything else very well on the court so that’s usually what it comes down to with him. | again. if you forgot ingram was on the court its because he's not a flashy player. the man was shooting over 60%. what more do you need him to do? lebron. the kind was shooting 40% and ended around there for the night. unusual i know but still. |
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LakerLogic Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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splashmtn wrote: | LakerLogic wrote: | LKA wrote: | Lonzo is the only one looking promising so far of the young core .. |
Hart is solid.
Kuz has regressed and BI hasn't improved a whole lot. | i'll say it again. BI was shooting 60%+ before the fight. |
I care about his jumper more than anything. |
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Practice Star Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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splashmtn wrote: | LakerLogic wrote: | LKA wrote: | Lonzo is the only one looking promising so far of the young core .. |
Hart is solid.
Kuz has regressed and BI hasn't improved a whole lot. | i'll say it again. BI was shooting 60%+ before the fight. |
Ingram disappeared for like two quarters. |
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24Legend007 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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LakerLogic wrote: | splashmtn wrote: | LakerLogic wrote: | LKA wrote: | Lonzo is the only one looking promising so far of the young core .. |
Hart is solid.
Kuz has regressed and BI hasn't improved a whole lot. | i'll say it again. BI was shooting 60%+ before the fight. |
I care about his jumper more than anything. |
TBH, I love when he goes to the rim from the high post triple threat. I feel like with his length he is almost unstoppable in that position. |
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LKA Star Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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splashmtn wrote: | LKA wrote: | LakerLogic wrote: | LKA wrote: | Lonzo is the only one looking promising so far of the young core .. |
Hart is solid.
Kuz has regressed and BI hasn't improved a whole lot. |
True Hart is usually solid but he was clanking some shots tonight and defense wasn’t too great
Kuzma is now 2-12 from deep in the first 2 games
I forgot Ingram was even on the court ..
Lonzo shot well tonight .. he does everything else very well on the court so that’s usually what it comes down to with him. | again. if you forgot ingram was on the court its because he's not a flashy player. the man was shooting over 60%. what more do you need him to do? lebron. the kind was shooting 40% and ended around there for the night. unusual i know but still. |
As LakerLogic said his jumpshot has not looked good .. he isn’t even hitting from the corner.
LeBron is LeBron I’m not worried about our superstar player I’m concerned with our unproven players |
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LakerLogic Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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Captain America wrote: | LakerLogic wrote: | LKA wrote: | Lonzo is the only one looking promising so far of the young core .. |
Hart is solid.
Kuz has regressed and BI hasn't improved a whole lot. | How has Hart been solid? He's been awful for going on two seasons now. Atrocious defender and mediocre/limited offensive player. Only positive attributes are decent three point shooter and decent rebounder for a guard. He's basically a stretch 4 without the size, which is brutally bad.
Agreed that Lonzo continues to look outstanding, rounding into last seasons form tonight after a pedestrian game 1. We need to get him more minutes.
BI will always be a limited player with his current frame but he has moments.i think he would be better off the bench though once we get a true starting caliber SF or PF to pair with LeBron. Like that BI showed a little dog tonight though.
Kuz is the same player we've seen minus the hot streak of offense last year. Hopefully he snaps out of it and can become decent offenseively because his defense leaves a lot to be desired.
Obviously most of our problems could be fixed if we could get a Brook Lopez level center but Brook desrvedly got a Max deal... Oh wait we are paying Lance Stephenson more than BroLo could have been had for.... |
Hart is a decent shooter, great in transition and attacking closeouts. Great finisher and rebounder. Bad perimeter defense against guards/wings but good defense against bigger players. Yeah that's not bad for a 30th pick. |
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24Legend007 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Practice wrote: | splashmtn wrote: | LakerLogic wrote: | LKA wrote: | Lonzo is the only one looking promising so far of the young core .. |
Hart is solid.
Kuz has regressed and BI hasn't improved a whole lot. | i'll say it again. BI was shooting 60%+ before the fight. |
Ingram disappeared for like two quarters. |
He has a quiet first half but was playing better in the 2nd half. |
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KB824MJ Star Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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Don't know why people are arguing BI not doing well in both games, when BI defends Harden and CP3 at times passed to another player on the perimeter, BI did bug some of those shots.
He also didn't have many opportunities. He had 3 shots in the 1st and second quarters, I believe. Definitely under 10 shots. And he wound up with over 60% shooting, sure he missed some shots, but he is doing a ton better than Kuz, at least BI can bring you defense |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Do we need to turn Lonzo's thread into a takedown of other young players? This is like the DLo thread all over again. _________________ Under New Management |
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