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Villain6Activated Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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BigGameHames wrote: | 1ngr4m wrote: | Our other 2nd overall pick is getting flamed in that other thread, but Lonzo is barely holding on to his starting spot.
He's averaging 6/5/5 on 32/26/75 in 22 minutes because he's been getting benched every 4th quarter in his last 5 games.
He's gonna have to prove he's worth investing into longterm too. |
So he had a stretch of bad shooting games and still found ways to contribute. |
Half of his career is a srtretch of bad shooting games. If that continues, and he continues to not play the 4th it’s going to be a problem _________________ “Life is too short. You have to keep it moving.” - Kobe |
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BigGameHames Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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1ngr4m wrote: | BigGameHames wrote: | 1ngr4m wrote: | Our other 2nd overall pick is getting flamed in that other thread, but Lonzo is barely holding on to his starting spot.
He's averaging 6/5/5 on 32/26/75 in 22 minutes because he's been getting benched every 4th quarter in his last 5 games.
He's gonna have to prove he's worth investing into longterm too. |
So he had a stretch of bad shooting games and still found ways to contribute. |
Half of his career is a srtretch of bad shooting games. If that continues, and he continues to not play the 4th it’s going to be a problem |
I agree. Luckily he’s already shooting better and Luke’s gotta come to his senses eventually. |
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CRoost Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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BigGameHames wrote: | defense wrote: | I just want you doubters to come back and admit how terrible you are when Lonzo gets it together. |
He’s 60 something games into his career and has one of the best feels for the game we’ve seen in a player his age and is as unselfish as they come and is only worried about winning. He’s gonna be damn good, it might just take some time with the glaring holes in his game. He already showed a lot of growth in two big weaknesses in his game over an offseason where he had knee surgery. Let’s give him a little time maybe? |
It takes time for point guards to establish themselves especially now that we are at least a relevant team. Raw stats in a mediocre team means little and I know a lot fans get caught with that like it’s baseball. One player can have so much impact on the game of basketball and that’s what Zo bring to the table, those little things and intangibles.
The fact that Zo is already one of best defensive guard out there in his rookie year is very encouraging. There’s no denying that he has a lot of glaring holes on his offense but he’s not that kind of player, iso type scorer. That’s why there’s a lot of disconnect here because folks just can’t appreciate his unique skill set.
I have to say though that his effort has not been consistent this year. He is mentally fragile too( not Fultz disturbing mental though) and shy away from contacts. |
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mhan00 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Fracture wrote: | Staccatos wrote: | This would all be resolved if Magic Johnson would just start some LG polls on what players he should keep and which he should get rid of.
Everyone wins! |
Final result would be: trade everyone, build around Bonga. |
Nah, Bonga would have already been cut and shipped back to Germany after that first SL game if polls on LG had management power. |
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The Juggernaut Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Locking Dame up so far holding him to 5/16 FG. Dame usually kills us |
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tox Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Man his confidence is so low, he went 3-5 from 3 overall today but because he got blocked a few times and missed his last 3, he declined to shoot a wide open 3 off a pass from LeBron. Can't wait til he remembers he's legitimately a good 3 point shooter lol |
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saetarubia Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Dame 8-23. Shot 13 FTs. Most of them not on ZO as he had only 4 fouls and one was offensive. _________________ Showtime 2.0 |
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greenfrog Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Good shooting, good D, but it bothers me the way they're using him as mostly as a spot-up shooter. A player with his passing and court vision needs to have the ball in his hands more.
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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tox wrote: | Man his confidence is so low, he went 3-5 from 3 overall today but because he got blocked a few times and missed his last 3, he declined to shoot a wide open 3 off a pass from LeBron. Can't wait til he remembers he's legitimately a good 3 point shooter lol |
A season hovering around 40% might help. He's at around 38 right now |
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tox Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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defense wrote: | tox wrote: | Man his confidence is so low, he went 3-5 from 3 overall today but because he got blocked a few times and missed his last 3, he declined to shoot a wide open 3 off a pass from LeBron. Can't wait til he remembers he's legitimately a good 3 point shooter lol |
A season hovering around 40% might help. He's at around 38 right now |
Yeah it's a process. I'm encouraged. His defense on Dame was absolutely smothering today. |
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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tox wrote: | Man his confidence is so low, he went 3-5 from 3 overall today but because he got blocked a few times and missed his last 3, he declined to shoot a wide open 3 off a pass from LeBron. Can't wait til he remembers he's legitimately a good 3 point shooter lol |
The one where he was trying to use up clock at the end of the game? |
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Vancouver Fan Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Nice D. Needs to shoot more of those open jumpers. Everyone sees hes scared to shoot. _________________ Music is my medicine
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mhan00 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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I don’t remember Lillard scoring on Lonzo beyond one sequence where Lillard did a great change of pace attack while rejecting the screen that Zo thought he was going to use, which caused Zo to trip and foul him. Other than that, Lillard only scored if Zo got screened off of him or if the refs gave him ticky tack calls for free fts. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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5 offensive rebounds tonight |
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LakerLogic Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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He's looking more spry. I hope he can become a better finisher than Fisher. |
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mhan00 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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pio2u wrote: | 5 offensive rebounds tonight |
He had like 3 deflections too that could have ended up as steals but lucky bounces sent the ball roght to Blazer players. |
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Thought he was good today
Still clearly lacking confidence |
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PauPau Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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greenfrog wrote: | Good shooting, good D, but it bothers me the way they're using him as mostly as a spot-up shooter. A player with his passing and court vision needs to have the ball in his hands more. |
After LeBron, dems the rules.
After BI? Dunno....don't think so. |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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LakerLogic wrote: | He's looking more spry. I hope he can become a better finisher than Fisher. |
Still think he's not 100% yet. Hopefully mid November. |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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I know this doesn't get talked about.
But how many screens did he set today for scores?
Seemed like a bunch. |
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Nash Vegas Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Still wish he would shoot more. If Lonzo hadn’t passed up so many passes from LeBron, LeBron would’ve had like 12 assists. _________________ |
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mhan00 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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epak wrote: | I know this doesn't get talked about.
But how many screens did he set today for scores?
Seemed like a bunch. |
Him screening for Lebron has been a very effective play for us recently. He had a couple of screens for other guys that freed them up for Lebron passes to finish too. |
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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epak wrote: | LakerLogic wrote: | He's looking more spry. I hope he can become a better finisher than Fisher. |
Still think he's not 100% yet. Hopefully mid November. |
calendar says November 14th. that's pretty mid-November to me. |
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Staccatos Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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I like to see Lonzo drive more to the basket, but he can't put up that weak easy to block (bleep) that no surprise, gets blocked. |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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HOF Rookie wrote: | epak wrote: | LakerLogic wrote: | He's looking more spry. I hope he can become a better finisher than Fisher. |
Still think he's not 100% yet. Hopefully mid November. |
calendar says November 14th. that's pretty mid-November to me. |
Lol |
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