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LakerLogic
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| If Zo is an avg finisher and shooter he is a borderline All-Star, not unreasonable expectations. |
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saetarubia
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| tox wrote: | | saetarubia wrote: | | kobe8One wrote: | | LandsbergerRules wrote: | | KBandKB wrote: | | 10-7-4 with 3 steals and 2 blocks with the highest +/- at +12... Not a great game, but a decent one. I'll take it. |
He's a key role player for us at this point. Always good to have. |
Decent game from Ball and yes, he is only a role player right now. |
Everyone except LeBron is then. Don't have the consistent 2nd guy yet.  |
Kuz is looking like that 2nd guy |
Since Ingram went down, yes. Not sure he'd get the same number of touches once Ingram comes in for Hart.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| saetarubia wrote: | | tox wrote: | | saetarubia wrote: | | kobe8One wrote: | | LandsbergerRules wrote: | | KBandKB wrote: | | 10-7-4 with 3 steals and 2 blocks with the highest +/- at +12... Not a great game, but a decent one. I'll take it. |
He's a key role player for us at this point. Always good to have. |
Decent game from Ball and yes, he is only a role player right now. |
Everyone except LeBron is then. Don't have the consistent 2nd guy yet. |
Kuz is looking like that 2nd guy |
Since Ingram went down, yes. Not sure he'd get the same number of touches once Ingram comes in for Hart. |
Hoping we can stay w/ this lineup.
Imagine if the 2nd unit just had BI's skillset in it. We would stop giving up leads. Hopefully. |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| saetarubia wrote: | | tox wrote: | | saetarubia wrote: | | kobe8One wrote: | | LandsbergerRules wrote: | | KBandKB wrote: | | 10-7-4 with 3 steals and 2 blocks with the highest +/- at +12... Not a great game, but a decent one. I'll take it. |
He's a key role player for us at this point. Always good to have. |
Decent game from Ball and yes, he is only a role player right now. |
Everyone except LeBron is then. Don't have the consistent 2nd guy yet. |
Kuz is looking like that 2nd guy |
Since Ingram went down, yes. Not sure he'd get the same number of touches once Ingram comes in for Hart. |
It’s more a matter of how he gets them. A guy who doesn’t bogart the ball and just not see the cutters or drive into their lanes does wonders.
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mhan00
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Decent first half, even with that horrendous blown layup. Defense was decent. Great second half with some really good D. Great decision making on O (except for the idiotic decision to try a behind the back pass to no one while he had open court in front of him). Just a huge positive force when he’s engaged on D, even when his shot is off. If he ever figures out how to score layups and jumpers at even just an nba average level with everything else he does, he’s a clear star for a team, hopefully us. |
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PauPau
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Overall role Zo was O.K.
First Half...he sucked.
Then he pulled it together and thats what its all about.
I really liked that he didn't retreat into his shell, kept his chin up and hustled.
We needed that for this W.
Loved the strong mental finish after the weak start. Balling! |
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LandsbergerRules
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: |
Hoping we can stay w/ this lineup.
Imagine if the 2nd unit just had BI's skillset in it. We would stop giving up leads. Hopefully. |
Agreed, but Im not sure if Walton would do this since he and Magic love BI so much.
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OCWA
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Good game and he gave everyone what they wanted. The haters got the missed layup and the supporters got the solid defense and filling up the stat sheet. AND we all get to enjoy a victory. |
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PauPau
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerLogic wrote: | | If Zo is an avg finisher and shooter he is a borderline All-Star, not unreasonable expectations. |
+ more experience I think he actually makes all star and earns it provided team record doesn't suck. |
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saetarubia
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tox
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| saetarubia wrote: | | tox wrote: | | saetarubia wrote: | | kobe8One wrote: | | LandsbergerRules wrote: | | KBandKB wrote: | | 10-7-4 with 3 steals and 2 blocks with the highest +/- at +12... Not a great game, but a decent one. I'll take it. |
He's a key role player for us at this point. Always good to have. |
Decent game from Ball and yes, he is only a role player right now. |
Everyone except LeBron is then. Don't have the consistent 2nd guy yet. |
Kuz is looking like that 2nd guy |
Since Ingram went down, yes. Not sure he'd get the same number of touches once Ingram comes in for Hart. |
There's an obvious remedy for that... but yes you are absolutely correct. |
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LKA
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Not gonna lie its extremely hard to watch Lonzo miss some of the shots that he misses .. Wide open lay ups cmon bro |
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AirTupac
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| why is he so scared |
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saetarubia
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| LKA wrote: | | Not gonna lie its extremely hard to watch Lonzo miss some of the shots that he misses .. Wide open lay ups cmon bro |
Should just dunk it if they are wide open layups.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Because he's afraid of a. Shooting an airball. B. Getting fouled and airballing a free throw.
There's a solution. STOP CARING AND SHOOT!
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levon
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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I was just dumbfounded at the missed layups, but he sneakily had a really dope game.
So frustrating though that instead of 4-11 for 10 points he could have had 5-10 for 12 points if he just dropped the ball through with both hands. At such low volume, it creates huge swings in his percentages and his mindset. |
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lakerz32
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| PauPau wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | If Zo is an avg finisher and shooter he is a borderline All-Star, not unreasonable expectations. |
+ more experience I think he actually makes all star and earns it provided team record doesn't suck. |
yup, zo just needs time. he's just really young, but he does have skills that can help the team win now, while still having countless areas to improve.
feel like he gets in his head really easily after just one mistake, and this often affects his motor/defense/aggression. After the alley dunk, felt zo really upped his defensive intensity/aggression. this type of stuff are just the growing pains for young players |
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ibij
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| lakersfever714 wrote: | | JerryWest_44 wrote: | zos line
10pts 7 rebs 4 assists 3 steals 2 blocks
+18 |
His +18 is actually because he was on the floor with Lebron the whole time. It's somewhat misleading here. |
He was just standing??? Do nothing??? |
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Super Mega Team
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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Had an overall good game on d. He did foul Richardson near the end though. Redeemed it with a block near the end.
Missed layup was terrible. If he didn’t get a few gimme dunks he would of shot the ball terribly to end the game. |
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where24happens
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| This guy's offensive game is so bad, it's pretty unreal. He did a good job on defense though, and continues to hustle for rebounds. The offense needs to improve though, like he seriously needs to practice layups, free throw shooting, shooting, literally everything. |
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Nash Vegas
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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^ Also needs to stop over passing still. Needs to get that confidence up with shooting.
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kobe8One
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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| AirTupac wrote: | | why is he so scared |
Since day 1 ...... |
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kobe8One
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| where24happens wrote: | | This guy's offensive game is so bad, it's pretty unreal. He did a good job on defense though, and continues to hustle for rebounds. The offense needs to improve though, like he seriously needs to practice layups, free throw shooting, shooting, literally everything. |
Because Lavar won't hire a REAL trainer. |
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lakersfever714
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| AirTupac wrote: | | why is he so scared |
His confidence is at rock bottom right now and I don't know what we can do to get it back up. Maybe hire Dr. Phil?
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| People can say whatever but his impact on the game is huge. Just make the layups man. |
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