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| BigGameHames wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | The chemistry I saw with Kuz and Lonzo last night was the best I have ever seen in the first half. They were totally dominating. In the 2nd half they put Tucker on Kuz to make other players beat us. Then Lonzo went down. With Kuz on the floor he misses Lebron and Lonzo the most. Right when Kuz and Lonzo appeared to be building something special Lonzo goes down. smh |
Very good signs for the future though. If we add a second superstar, we’re a top 2 NBA team next year. Zo/Kuz/Bron and that FA are the building blocks of the next Lakers championship. May not be our yea but I’m encouraged. |
Zo and Kuz showing their growth during LeBron injury time. Lost initially in the first 6 games but been balling in the last 7. They gonna be good |
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Type of shoe has little impact in preventing sprains. The big brands have spent billions in R&D ... you’d think if there was some tech that made a huge difference, they would have run with it to dominate shoe sales. Basically the only thing you see is that maybe low cut shoes help a little because the muscles react faster, but even that isn’t a game changer or terribly conclusive. You roll your ankle like Lonzo did, you’re going to sprain your ankle in any shoe outside of wearing ski boots ... and then that would just transfer energy to the knee, and, of course you would suck as a basketball player, lol.
Basically, working on developing the muscles around the ankle and working on his balance will be the biggest factor. If there was a magic shoe that prevented ankle injuries, guys like Steph Curry would be wearing them and everyone would follow. Steph still sprains his ankles because ... he plays basketball. That’s what happens.
Maybe someday someone will invent some cool lightweight nanobot suit that prevents ankle and knee sprains...or guys will get instant ligiment repair in the locker room and be back on the court in minutes. But shoe tech right now ain’t going to prevent major ankle sprains in basketball no matter what brand you wear.
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BigGameHames
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| Interesting to see which loud critics of his show up when he plays well and which have disappeared. Bandwagons open once you see the light fellas. |
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[/quote]Zo and Kuz showing their growth during LeBron injury time. Lost initially in the first 6 games but been balling in the last 7. They gonna be good[/quote]
Agree. But I have a feeling the management is enraptured with iso-ball superstars? They might just gut the team. I would not have minded watching a team of:
Zo, Zu,Randall, BI, Kuz, Svi, Wagner, T. Bryant, Russell, Hart.....and 3 others, lol.
Testament to the front office along with high draft picks. |
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Christopher Walken
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Christ, now I know how female politicians feel when they're referred to as "shrill" and "screechy" for saying the same things a male politician says, but because they're female, they get labeled as "nagging"...
Double standard at its finest.
How does it relate to Lonzo? the guys plays good, rolls his ankle, and we suddenly have Dr. Scholl and his 5 pediatrist assistants on here, talking about Lonzo's shoes being Inferior!!!
Swear to god, one day Lonzo is gonna get a concussion and there will be some Mensa member saying that Zo needs to not play so fast or fault him for not wearing a helmet.
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | Interesting to see which loud critics of his show up when he plays well and which have disappeared. Bandwagons open once you see the light fellas. |
There is another type of fan besides the "Loud Critics" and "Bandwagoners", called the "Realists"; these are the ones that look at his actual performance and base their posts on "Logic" and "Facts"!
Realists are the ones that call him out when he scores zero or 3 points in a game, they are the ones who are dissatisfied when he goes 0 for 7 from the 3 point line or when his missed FT's lose us games!
And they are not going away, until he improves his game or is traded...
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BigGameHames
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| unleasHell wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | Interesting to see which loud critics of his show up when he plays well and which have disappeared. Bandwagons open once you see the light fellas. |
There is another type of fan besides the "Loud Critics" and "Bandwagoners", called the "Realists"; these are the ones that look at his actual performance and base their posts on "Logic" and "Facts"!
Realists are the ones that call him out when he scores zero or 3 points in a game, they are the ones who are dissatisfied when he goes 0 for 7 from the 3 point line or when his missed FT's lose us games!
And they are not going away, until he improves his game or is traded... |
I think many of the self proclaimed “realists” aren’t near as realistic or reasonable as they believe. I also don’t think a realist can’t also be band wagoner or loud critic. |
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Omar Little
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Just my .02, but realists are a lot like honest people. If they truly are those things, they don’t need to tell you they are.
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| DancingBarry wrote: | Type of shoe has little impact in preventing sprains. The big brands have spent billions in R&D ... you’d think if there was some tech that made a huge difference, they would have run with it to dominate shoe sales. Basically the only thing you see is that maybe low cut shoes help a little because the muscles react faster, but even that isn’t a game changer or terribly conclusive. You roll your ankle like Lonzo did, you’re going to sprain your ankle in any shoe outside of wearing ski boots ... and then that would just transfer energy to the knee, and, of course you would suck as a basketball player, lol.
Basically, working on developing the muscles around the ankle and working on his balance will be the biggest factor. If there was a magic shoe that prevented ankle injuries, guys like Steph Curry would be wearing them and everyone would follow. Steph still sprains his ankles because ... he plays basketball. That’s what happens.
Maybe someday someone will invent some cool lightweight nanobot suit that prevents ankle and knee sprains...or guys will get instant ligiment repair in the locker room and be back on the court in minutes. But shoe tech right now ain’t going to prevent major ankle sprains in basketball no matter what brand you wear. |
Oh, come on, DB. Everyone knows that its all about hydration. If Ball was using the right sports drink, he'd be fine, and we would have won the game last night. |
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | Interesting to see which loud critics of his show up when he plays well and which have disappeared. Bandwagons open once you see the light fellas. |
You can waste a big chunk of your life worrying about how other fans react to a particular player or coach. If you find that to be fun, then you can have tons of fun on a sports message board. Otherwise, one day you may come to realize that it really doesn't matter. The people who obsess about a particular player or coach, positively or negatively, are really sort of boring. Likewise, the people who overreact to everything are just engaging in primal scream therapy in public. |
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I'm not saying this applies to Lonzo, but there are people who are more clumsy and accident prone... and some who are more naturally graceful.
I think some people just naturally are aware of their body, its own specific limitations, and manage not to hurt themselves as often.
I also think effort plays a part in this equation, as some people just play balls to the wall, maximum effort every play without regard to their safety, like those centerfielders you see crash into a wall without thinking.
My point is there probably are certain controllable variables, whether it's footwear, flexibility, awareness, that can reduce odds of an injury.
And sometimes it's just a fluke that you can do nothing about. |
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BigGameHames
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | Interesting to see which loud critics of his show up when he plays well and which have disappeared. Bandwagons open once you see the light fellas. |
You can waste a big chunk of your life worrying about how other fans react to a particular player or coach. If you find that to be fun, then you can have tons of fun on a sports message board. Otherwise, one day you may come to realize that it really doesn't matter. The people who obsess about a particular player or coach, positively or negatively, are really sort of boring. Likewise, the people who overreact to everything are just engaging in primal scream therapy in public. |
I’m well aware of how little fans opinions matter. Just find the phenomenon surrounding how polarizing Zo is as a player(for basketball and non basketball reasons) to be interesting, not important. Also wanted to let the naysayers know they’ll be forgiven for their past transgressions when he ascends to stardom.  |
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | Interesting to see which loud critics of his show up when he plays well and which have disappeared. Bandwagons open once you see the light fellas. |
You can waste a big chunk of your life worrying about how other fans react to a particular player or coach. If you find that to be fun, then you can have tons of fun on a sports message board. Otherwise, one day you may come to realize that it really doesn't matter. The people who obsess about a particular player or coach, positively or negatively, are really sort of boring. Likewise, the people who overreact to everything are just engaging in primal scream therapy in public. |
I’m well aware of how little fans opinions matter. Just find the phenomenon surrounding how polarizing Zo is as a player(for basketball and non basketball reasons) to be interesting, not important. Also wanted to let the naysayers know they’ll be forgiven for their past transgressions when he ascends to stardom. |
I guess I'm a "hater" then, since I don't see him becoming the best or 2nd best player for a championship caliber team. He can eventually develop into a significant contributor for a team that caliber though.
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BigGameHames
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| LandsbergerRules wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | Interesting to see which loud critics of his show up when he plays well and which have disappeared. Bandwagons open once you see the light fellas. |
You can waste a big chunk of your life worrying about how other fans react to a particular player or coach. If you find that to be fun, then you can have tons of fun on a sports message board. Otherwise, one day you may come to realize that it really doesn't matter. The people who obsess about a particular player or coach, positively or negatively, are really sort of boring. Likewise, the people who overreact to everything are just engaging in primal scream therapy in public. |
I’m well aware of how little fans opinions matter. Just find the phenomenon surrounding how polarizing Zo is as a player(for basketball and non basketball reasons) to be interesting, not important. Also wanted to let the naysayers know they’ll be forgiven for their past transgressions when he ascends to stardom. |
I guess I'm a "hater" then, since I don't see him becoming the best or 2nd best player for a championship caliber team. He can eventually develop into a significant contributor for a team that caliber though. |
I wouldn’t consider that a hater at all. |
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| DancingBarry wrote: | Type of shoe has little impact in preventing sprains. The big brands have spent billions in R&D ... you’d think if there was some tech that made a huge difference, they would have run with it to dominate shoe sales. Basically the only thing you see is that maybe low cut shoes help a little because the muscles react faster, but even that isn’t a game changer or terribly conclusive. You roll your ankle like Lonzo did, you’re going to sprain your ankle in any shoe outside of wearing ski boots ... and then that would just transfer energy to the knee, and, of course you would suck as a basketball player, lol.
Basically, working on developing the muscles around the ankle and working on his balance will be the biggest factor. If there was a magic shoe that prevented ankle injuries, guys like Steph Curry would be wearing them and everyone would follow. Steph still sprains his ankles because ... he plays basketball. That’s what happens.
Maybe someday someone will invent some cool lightweight nanobot suit that prevents ankle and knee sprains...or guys will get instant ligiment repair in the locker room and be back on the court in minutes. But shoe tech right now ain’t going to prevent major ankle sprains in basketball no matter what brand you wear. |
Thanks DB !!
Attention Kmart shoppers, attention Kmart shoppers (or BBB)... you are good to go....
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Lonzo is a beast, but needs to toughen up, to be honest. Carried off the court for an ankle sprain? SMH he curled up on the ground like he was dead, while Kobe shot free throws and walked off the court on his own admission with a tore achilles. A lot of these generational NBA stars are cotton soft.
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| deal wrote: | | DancingBarry wrote: | Type of shoe has little impact in preventing sprains. The big brands have spent billions in R&D ... you’d think if there was some tech that made a huge difference, they would have run with it to dominate shoe sales. Basically the only thing you see is that maybe low cut shoes help a little because the muscles react faster, but even that isn’t a game changer or terribly conclusive. You roll your ankle like Lonzo did, you’re going to sprain your ankle in any shoe outside of wearing ski boots ... and then that would just transfer energy to the knee, and, of course you would suck as a basketball player, lol.
Basically, working on developing the muscles around the ankle and working on his balance will be the biggest factor. If there was a magic shoe that prevented ankle injuries, guys like Steph Curry would be wearing them and everyone would follow. Steph still sprains his ankles because ... he plays basketball. That’s what happens.
Maybe someday someone will invent some cool lightweight nanobot suit that prevents ankle and knee sprains...or guys will get instant ligiment repair in the locker room and be back on the court in minutes. But shoe tech right now ain’t going to prevent major ankle sprains in basketball no matter what brand you wear. |
Thanks DB !!
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| DancingBarry wrote: | Type of shoe has little impact in preventing sprains. The big brands have spent billions in R&D ... you’d think if there was some tech that made a huge difference, they would have run with it to dominate shoe sales. Basically the only thing you see is that maybe low cut shoes help a little because the muscles react faster, but even that isn’t a game changer or terribly conclusive. You roll your ankle like Lonzo did, you’re going to sprain your ankle in any shoe outside of wearing ski boots ... and then that would just transfer energy to the knee, and, of course you would suck as a basketball player, lol.
Basically, working on developing the muscles around the ankle and working on his balance will be the biggest factor. If there was a magic shoe that prevented ankle injuries, guys like Steph Curry would be wearing them and everyone would follow. Steph still sprains his ankles because ... he plays basketball. That’s what happens.
Maybe someday someone will invent some cool lightweight nanobot suit that prevents ankle and knee sprains...or guys will get instant ligiment repair in the locker room and be back on the court in minutes. But shoe tech right now ain’t going to prevent major ankle sprains in basketball no matter what brand you wear. |
Proven or not I've had less than prefect ankles my whole life and High tops have literally save my ankle from a bad sprain on many occasions.
They provide much stronger support for the ankle and you can feel it the second you put one on.
If Ball was wearing high top it might not have prevented the injury (although it might have) but it would of been far less severe. |
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| Dirty play by Ennis. No foul called either. |
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| LandsbergerRules wrote: | | I guess I'm a "hater" then, since I don't see him becoming the best or 2nd best player for a championship caliber team. He can eventually develop into a significant contributor for a team that caliber though. |
Well the bandwagoners may call you a "hater", but the realists will call you "correct"...
lol
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| unleasHell wrote: | | LandsbergerRules wrote: | | I guess I'm a "hater" then, since I don't see him becoming the best or 2nd best player for a championship caliber team. He can eventually develop into a significant contributor for a team that caliber though. |
Well the bandwagoners may call you a "hater", but the realists will call you "correct"...
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Who called him a hater? |
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| 18 10 8 with All-NBA defense is the 2nd best player on a championship team. He could easily have the most impact on a championship-level team without scoring the most. How many players can claim that? We are talking about ceiling but he has shown a lot of improvement the last 3 weeks in the basketball moves he is making out there. His floor is also low so who knows at this point. |
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | unleasHell wrote: | | LandsbergerRules wrote: | | I guess I'm a "hater" then, since I don't see him becoming the best or 2nd best player for a championship caliber team. He can eventually develop into a significant contributor for a team that caliber though. |
Well the bandwagoners may call you a "hater", but the realists will call you "correct"...
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Who called him a hater? |
The Staw Man. He does that a lot.
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3rd option on a championship team is fine by me. Like Draymond on Warriors first championship run.
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| My guess is he’s out 2-4 weeks. Kevin Knox had a similar injury. Maybe 3-5 weeks because our medical staff is trash |
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