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The God Particle Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:32 am Post subject: |
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jg77 wrote: | He's become vastly overrated while he's been injured. I'd probably keep him out the entire season since it seems like his absence is increasing his trade value. |
Unfortunately he's vastly overrated only in this thread.
It's too bad BigHameJames isn't the Pels GM, he would have given us AD and Julis (back) for just Lonzo.
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BigGameHames Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:46 am Post subject: |
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The God Particle wrote: | jg77 wrote: | He's become vastly overrated while he's been injured. I'd probably keep him out the entire season since it seems like his absence is increasing his trade value. |
Unfortunately he's vastly overrated only in this thread.
It's too bad BigHameJames isn't the Pels GM, he would have given us AD and Julis (back) for just Lonzo.
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scooterp10 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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The God Particle wrote: | jg77 wrote: | He's become vastly overrated while he's been injured. I'd probably keep him out the entire season since it seems like his absence is increasing his trade value. |
Unfortunately he's vastly overrated only in this thread.
It's too bad BigHameJames isn't the Pels GM, he would have given us AD and Julis (back) for just Lonzo.
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It’s funny how all our young players are overrated until we trade them away. If we drafted Harden, PG13, Kawhi, Curry or Klay they would have been traded by year 3. Those guys all took years to develop into all stars. They weren’t instant winners.
Right now we had Dlo just became a 22 year old All Star PG. Julius isn’t too far behind and we could really use them right now. No our guys are not all stars right now, but they’re on their way. |
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bandiger Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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scooterp10 wrote: | The God Particle wrote: | jg77 wrote: | He's become vastly overrated while he's been injured. I'd probably keep him out the entire season since it seems like his absence is increasing his trade value. |
Unfortunately he's vastly overrated only in this thread.
It's too bad BigHameJames isn't the Pels GM, he would have given us AD and Julis (back) for just Lonzo.
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It’s funny how all our young players are overrated until we trade them away. If we drafted Harden, PG13, Kawhi, Curry or Klay they would have been traded by year 3. Those guys all took years to develop into all stars. They weren’t instant winners.
Right now we had Dlo just became a 22 year old All Star PG. Julius isn’t too far behind and we could really use them right now. No our guys are not all stars right now, but they’re on their way. |
Thing about this franchise is they obsess over star/name players especially this FO. As a hardcore Laker fan, just accept it |
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LandsbergerRules Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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The God Particle wrote: | jg77 wrote: | He's become vastly overrated while he's been injured. I'd probably keep him out the entire season since it seems like his absence is increasing his trade value. |
Unfortunately he's vastly overrated only in this thread.
It's too bad BigHameJames isn't the Pels GM, he would have given us AD and Julis (back) for just Lonzo.
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Lol true. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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jg77 wrote: | He's become vastly overrated while he's been injured. |
I agree with you, but this is not uncommon or limited to Ball. I recall the few games Ingram was out in the beginning of the season for the fight, he went from a 21 year old developing wing to a candidate for league MVP....similar overrating happened while Rondo was out. It is the Backup QB Syndrome....when a player is not on the field, fans focus mostly on the good things they do; In contrast, when a player is on the field, fans focus mostly on the bad things they do. |
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Villain6Activated Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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https://twitter.com/ZO2_/status/1096524400273240064
I don't know if it's cause this season has been disappointing too but this tweet is my favorite Lakers related moment of the season _________________ “Life is too short. You have to keep it moving.” - Kobe |
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The Juggernaut Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Ball is not being overrated. He was our defensive hear and soul. It was obvious to anyone watching the games and it's backed up by his absence. His half court traditional playmaking before he got hurt was starting to soar and was truly reminding me of Jason Kidd on both ends for the first time. |
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The God Particle Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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scooterp10 wrote: | The God Particle wrote: | jg77 wrote: | He's become vastly overrated while he's been injured. I'd probably keep him out the entire season since it seems like his absence is increasing his trade value. |
Unfortunately he's vastly overrated only in this thread.
It's too bad BigHameJames isn't the Pels GM, he would have given us AD and Julis (back) for just Lonzo.
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It’s funny how all our young players are overrated until we trade them away. If we drafted Harden, PG13, Kawhi, Curry or Klay they would have been traded by year 3. Those guys all took years to develop into all stars. They weren’t instant winners.
Right now we had Dlo just became a 22 year old All Star PG. Julius isn’t too far behind and we could really use them right now. No our guys are not all stars right now, but they’re on their way. |
I actually don't mind losing our young players, even if they turn into all-stars. But if we're going to lose them, is sure as hell better be for All-NBA type players.
Unfortunately for us.... that hasn't been the case. We lose them for nothing.
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blackmamba08 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:12 am Post subject: |
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What is his condition? Is there any indication that he is coming back soon? |
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al242 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:32 am Post subject: |
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Trade him! |
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tox Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:36 am Post subject: |
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jg77 wrote: | He's become vastly overrated while he's been injured. I'd probably keep him out the entire season since it seems like his absence is increasing his trade value. |
I think our defense going to (bleep) without him is increasing his defensive value yeah, but sure think whatever you want to think. |
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waterman40 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:15 am Post subject: |
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Both Ball and BI do most everything well except shoot the basketball, and piss on their free throws. In a few years, yeah maybe they will be better. But for now, they just need to be good role players and 3-5th options on the court.
If the Lakers do land their big fish, I think it helps whichever of the two players is here. The difference is, I think Ball would be more than comfortable to just be a facilitator, play good defense and contribute boards, assists, and chippies at 10 ppg. BI I think would have a harder time accepting that role, which is good, you need scorers, but you need scorers who can shoot.
Ball I think at least knows who he is and will fit either being a PG with a great with a great scoring SG, or let a great PG do the scoring, and he'll play the defensive SG. _________________ LAKERS 2019-2020: NBA World Champions! |
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LandsbergerRules Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:31 am Post subject: |
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waterman40 wrote: | Both Ball and BI do most everything well except shoot the basketball, and piss on their free throws. In a few years, yeah maybe they will be better. But for now, they just need to be good role players and 3-5th options on the court.
If the Lakers do land their big fish, I think it helps whichever of the two players is here. The difference is, I think Ball would be more than comfortable to just be a facilitator, play good defense and contribute boards, assists, and chippies at 10 ppg. BI I think would have a harder time accepting that role, which is good, you need scorers, but you need scorers who can shoot.
Ball I think at least knows who he is and will fit either being a PG with a great with a great scoring SG, or let a great PG do the scoring, and he'll play the defensive SG. |
Yup both Zo's skillset and mindset lend themselves to being a more effective role player next to legit superstars than BI. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
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danzag Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:36 am Post subject: |
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1ngr4m wrote: | https://twitter.com/ZO2_/status/1096524400273240064
I don't know if it's cause this season has been disappointing too but this tweet is my favorite Lakers related moment of the season |
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The Lebrons Star Player
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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blackmamba08 wrote: | What is his condition? Is there any indication that he is coming back soon? |
It's been 4 weeks...
I would not expect him back anytime soon. If he's back by April, I'd be happy...and surprised. |
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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The Lebrons wrote: | blackmamba08 wrote: | What is his condition? Is there any indication that he is coming back soon? |
It's been 4 weeks...
I would not expect him back anytime soon. If he's back by April, I'd be happy...and surprised. |
That'd be hilarious and another mark against our medical staff.
Initially they said 4-6 weeks; April would be nearly 12 weeks depending on the day. |
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Staccatos Star Player
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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In the immortal words of Jayson Tatum: "I'd trade me too." |
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Dr. Laker Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:20 am Post subject: |
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scooterp10 wrote: | It’s funny how all our young players are overrated until we trade them away. If we drafted Harden, PG13, Kawhi, Curry or Klay they would have been traded by year 3. Those guys all took years to develop into all stars. They weren’t instant winners. |
Harden - Sixth Man of the Year (Year 3)
George - Most Improved Player (Year 3)
Curry - 1st Team All Rookie
Kawhi - 1st Team All Rookie
Klay - 1st Team All Rookie
None of our recent young guys - DLo, Randle, BI have shown that. Zo & Kuz are still in year 2, so maybe they have a shot. A loooooooooooooong shot. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns". |
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Judah Star Player
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:37 am Post subject: |
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Kuz was 1st team all rookie. _________________ “Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
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LakersNewEra Star Player
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:23 am Post subject: |
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Come on Lonzo, we need ya boy!!! Come back and step up.
Seriously though, Lonzo does so many things well but to really be an impact player he will need to average at least 15 ppg. The rest of the stuff comes easy for him. Its his consistent scoring that can make him amazing. |
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unleasHell Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:32 am Post subject: |
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LakersNewEra wrote: | Lonzo does so many things well |
Like being a father, a son, a rapper, a businessman?
He has far too many distractions away from basketball that prevent him from improving his NBA skills... _________________ “Always remember... Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.” |
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lakersfever714 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:35 am Post subject: |
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Injury proned _________________ LeGoat! LeMazing! LeGend! |
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