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epak
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| Halflife wrote: | | Best defender and best court vision on that list |
Doesn't matter. He's the worst 3 ball shooter there with the highest %. Minus points for not having a higher % due to LeBron getting him sooooooooo many open 3s. We should deduct points for not averaging more 3 ball attempts actually.
But seriously, I was surprised at how low some of the others shot. |
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BigGameHames
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| LKA wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | epak wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | epak wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | epak wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | epak wrote: | Inspired by Lyle's Twitter...
List the following by their 3pt%:
L. Ball
K. Bazemore
D. Booker
J. Clarkson
L. Doncic
Jrue Holiday
N. Jokic
K. Kuzma
K. Oubre
A. Rivers
R. Westbrook
T. Young |
Career or this year? |
This past year |
Jokic
Doncic
Rivers
Ball
Top 4 in that order? |
It's a trick question it seems. There's like 6 guys on that list that shot 32 something % and Lonzo seems to be the highest of the 32%ers at .329
Even tho obviously he's probably the worst shooter on that list in reality. |
He’s not close to the worst shooter on that list but i agree it’s a bit of a trick question. |
Who is worse? Other than Westbrook , who still is a career 80% from the line .. |
They're all better 3 point shooters than Lonzo.
They just shot a lower %. |
Lonzo shot the best %? |
Yes sir. Optics. |
With solid volume too |
Percentage should be way higher when you consider how many are wide open playing with LeBron |
Now that’s how you move a goalpost! Well done. |
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BigGameHames
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| epak wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Best defender and best court vision on that list |
Doesn't matter. He's the worst 3 ball shooter there with the highest %. Minus points for not having a higher % due to LeBron getting him sooooooooo many open 3s. We should deduct points for not averaging more 3 ball attempts actually.
But seriously, I was surprised at how low some of the others shot. |
You forgot about the deduction for all air balls, bricks, and Lavar quotes. |
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epak
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | epak wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | epak wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | epak wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | epak wrote: | Inspired by Lyle's Twitter...
List the following by their 3pt%:
L. Ball
K. Bazemore
D. Booker
J. Clarkson
L. Doncic
Jrue Holiday
N. Jokic
K. Kuzma
K. Oubre
A. Rivers
R. Westbrook
T. Young |
Career or this year? |
This past year |
Jokic
Doncic
Rivers
Ball
Top 4 in that order? |
It's a trick question it seems. There's like 6 guys on that list that shot 32 something % and Lonzo seems to be the highest of the 32%ers at .329
Even tho obviously he's probably the worst shooter on that list in reality. |
He’s not close to the worst shooter on that list but i agree it’s a bit of a trick question. |
Who is worse? Other than Westbrook , who still is a career 80% from the line .. |
They're all better 3 point shooters than Lonzo.
They just shot a lower %. |
Lonzo shot the best %? |
Yes sir. Optics. |
With solid volume too |
Percentage should be way higher when you consider how many are wide open playing with LeBron |
Now that’s how you move a goalpost! Well done. |
Missed FG |
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BigGameHames
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| Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | epak wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | epak wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | epak wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | epak wrote: | Inspired by Lyle's Twitter...
List the following by their 3pt%:
L. Ball
K. Bazemore
D. Booker
J. Clarkson
L. Doncic
Jrue Holiday
N. Jokic
K. Kuzma
K. Oubre
A. Rivers
R. Westbrook
T. Young |
Career or this year? |
This past year |
Jokic
Doncic
Rivers
Ball
Top 4 in that order? |
It's a trick question it seems. There's like 6 guys on that list that shot 32 something % and Lonzo seems to be the highest of the 32%ers at .329
Even tho obviously he's probably the worst shooter on that list in reality. |
He’s not close to the worst shooter on that list but i agree it’s a bit of a trick question. |
Who is worse? Other than Westbrook , who still is a career 80% from the line .. |
They're all better 3 point shooters than Lonzo.
They just shot a lower %. |
Lonzo shot the best %? |
Yes sir. Optics. |
With solid volume too |
Percentage should be way higher when you consider how many are wide open playing with LeBron |
Now that’s how you move a goalpost! Well done. |
Missed FG |
Get the damn laces out and it wouldn’t matter. |
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epak
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| Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | epak wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | epak wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | epak wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | epak wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | epak wrote: | Inspired by Lyle's Twitter...
List the following by their 3pt%:
L. Ball
K. Bazemore
D. Booker
J. Clarkson
L. Doncic
Jrue Holiday
N. Jokic
K. Kuzma
K. Oubre
A. Rivers
R. Westbrook
T. Young |
Career or this year? |
This past year |
Jokic
Doncic
Rivers
Ball
Top 4 in that order? |
It's a trick question it seems. There's like 6 guys on that list that shot 32 something % and Lonzo seems to be the highest of the 32%ers at .329
Even tho obviously he's probably the worst shooter on that list in reality. |
He’s not close to the worst shooter on that list but i agree it’s a bit of a trick question. |
Who is worse? Other than Westbrook , who still is a career 80% from the line .. |
They're all better 3 point shooters than Lonzo.
They just shot a lower %. |
Lonzo shot the best %? |
Yes sir. Optics. |
With solid volume too |
Percentage should be way higher when you consider how many are wide open playing with LeBron |
Now that’s how you move a goalpost! Well done. |
Missed FG |
Get the damn laces out and it wouldn’t matter. |
Worst case of hemorrhoids! |
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BigGameHames
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| Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Goalposts will be dancing in here after he gets a full offseason to work on the “pretzel” shot. |
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LKA
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| Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | epak wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | epak wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | epak wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | epak wrote: | Inspired by Lyle's Twitter...
List the following by their 3pt%:
L. Ball
K. Bazemore
D. Booker
J. Clarkson
L. Doncic
Jrue Holiday
N. Jokic
K. Kuzma
K. Oubre
A. Rivers
R. Westbrook
T. Young |
Career or this year? |
This past year |
Jokic
Doncic
Rivers
Ball
Top 4 in that order? |
It's a trick question it seems. There's like 6 guys on that list that shot 32 something % and Lonzo seems to be the highest of the 32%ers at .329
Even tho obviously he's probably the worst shooter on that list in reality. |
He’s not close to the worst shooter on that list but i agree it’s a bit of a trick question. |
Who is worse? Other than Westbrook , who still is a career 80% from the line .. |
They're all better 3 point shooters than Lonzo.
They just shot a lower %. |
Lonzo shot the best %? |
Yes sir. Optics. |
With solid volume too |
Percentage should be way higher when you consider how many are wide open playing with LeBron |
Now that’s how you move a goalpost! Well done. |
Doesn't matter it's still facts |
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epak
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| Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | Goalposts will be dancing in here after he gets a full offseason to work on the “pretzel” shot. |
Now on a serious note.
Do you think coach Frank will allow Zo to run and be high energy? I was watching the the last Warriors game and Draymond was going berserk. And I was being reminded of Zo in a way. Pace. Defense. Outlets.
Which coaching system would benefit Zos game: Luke's or Frank's? |
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LKA
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| Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| I wonder if Lonzo could end up being a Gary Payton type player. He's a good defender and their numbers are pretty similar 2 seasons in. |
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BigGameHames
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| Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | Goalposts will be dancing in here after he gets a full offseason to work on the “pretzel” shot. |
Now on a serious note.
Do you think coach Frank will allow Zo to run and be high energy? I was watching the the last Warriors game and Draymond was going berserk. And I was being reminded of Zo in a way. Pace. Defense. Outlets.
Which coaching system would benefit Zos game: Luke's or Frank's? |
Tough to say. Luke liked to play faster than Vogal in the past but maybe Vogal is adjusting. Luke wanted anybody to bring the ball up the floor while I think Vogal is more traditional in a “get the ball to the PG and go” type of style. I think Kidd will be very influential as well. |
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Vogel took 3 years and allowed them to pick the next HC (Kidd) to be on his staff.
Vogel will do what the Lakers tell him to and he will like it. Not worried about what he will or won't do.
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GameCock-MD
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Kidd is a pick for LeBron/Lonzo. I think those guys will play at a high pace.
If Lonzo is still on this team on opening day, expect him to have as much freedom as he did last year.
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Lakerchaq
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Bulls want Lonzo for the 7th pick!
That would be a fantastic trade. |
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| Lakerchaq wrote: | Bulls want Lonzo for the 7th pick!
That would be a fantastic trade. |
For the Bulls, yes. The Lakers are far better off keeping Lonzo, unless we know for sure that BI, 4, and 7 will be enough to get AD to team up with Lebron and Kawhi. Otherwise, hard pass. |
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| mhan00 wrote: | | Lakerchaq wrote: | Bulls want Lonzo for the 7th pick!
That would be a fantastic trade. |
For the Bulls, yes. The Lakers are far better off keeping Lonzo, unless we know for sure that BI, 4, and 7 will be enough to get AD to team up with Lebron and Kawhi. Otherwise, hard pass. |
It’s like we didn’t learn anything from the D’Angelo trade. |
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| Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 5:09 am Post subject: |
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| Lakerchaq wrote: | Bulls want Lonzo for the 7th pick!
That would be a fantastic trade. |
Only if you're a Bulls fan |
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He's missed 40% of our team's games his first 2 years here.
His inability to stay healthy is worrisome.
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| kikanga wrote: | He's missed 40% of our team's games his first 2 years here.
His inability to stay healthy is worrisome. |
I hope he's healthy next year. We'll need him. |
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| tkLAKERS wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: | | Lakerchaq wrote: | Bulls want Lonzo for the 7th pick!
That would be a fantastic trade. |
For the Bulls, yes. The Lakers are far better off keeping Lonzo, unless we know for sure that BI, 4, and 7 will be enough to get AD to team up with Lebron and Kawhi. Otherwise, hard pass. |
It’s like we didn’t learn anything from the D’Angelo trade. |
#4 + #7 is worth more than #4 and lonzo in any trade deal |
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BigGameHames
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| Kobesystem wrote: | | tkLAKERS wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: | | Lakerchaq wrote: | Bulls want Lonzo for the 7th pick!
That would be a fantastic trade. |
For the Bulls, yes. The Lakers are far better off keeping Lonzo, unless we know for sure that BI, 4, and 7 will be enough to get AD to team up with Lebron and Kawhi. Otherwise, hard pass. |
It’s like we didn’t learn anything from the D’Angelo trade. |
#4 + #7 is worth more than #4 and lonzo in any trade deal |
I highly doubt that. |
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | Kobesystem wrote: | | tkLAKERS wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: | | Lakerchaq wrote: | Bulls want Lonzo for the 7th pick!
That would be a fantastic trade. |
For the Bulls, yes. The Lakers are far better off keeping Lonzo, unless we know for sure that BI, 4, and 7 will be enough to get AD to team up with Lebron and Kawhi. Otherwise, hard pass. |
It’s like we didn’t learn anything from the D’Angelo trade. |
#4 + #7 is worth more than #4 and lonzo in any trade deal |
I highly doubt that. |
Picks are always valued at premium. |
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| Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| LKA wrote: | | I wonder if Lonzo could end up being a Gary Payton type player. He's a good defender and their numbers are pretty similar 2 seasons in. |
Seriously?
Gary played in the worst possible era for numbers. The dead-ball era. The "inside the paint" era. The "If you're going to shoot a 3 you better make it!" era.
Lonzo's first 2 years coincide with an explosion in scoring, pace, and possessions and most importantly the "Layups or 3 pointers" era.
Even if their numbers were really identical, would they really? |
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| Kobesystem wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | Kobesystem wrote: | | tkLAKERS wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: | | Lakerchaq wrote: | Bulls want Lonzo for the 7th pick!
That would be a fantastic trade. |
For the Bulls, yes. The Lakers are far better off keeping Lonzo, unless we know for sure that BI, 4, and 7 will be enough to get AD to team up with Lebron and Kawhi. Otherwise, hard pass. |
It’s like we didn’t learn anything from the D’Angelo trade. |
#4 + #7 is worth more than #4 and lonzo in any trade deal |
I highly doubt that. |
Picks are always valued at premium. |
Wrong. Lonzo would go top 3 in this draft, easily. People know that Lonzo's best assets are growing. They have no idea what a pick will become.
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| Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Lonzo is the Draymond Green type impact player for a Championship team.
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