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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:13 am    Post subject:

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Ingram and Jrue both seem like locks in the starting 5 for the Pelicans.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if Zo isn't/gets traded... Their rookie is really good and the Pelicans got to many guards.


I wouldn't either. That's the problem with being a young player on a bad team. Your replacement could be coming in the next draft unless you're a standout. If that replacement is drafted high enough he's going to get minutes because everyone wants to see him play. If you play the same position those minutes will come out of your time. If he's good enough they'll trade you to fill another team need.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:19 am    Post subject:

Should be interesting to see if the Pels will pay BI $28-29m/year when he is a RFA.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:32 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
Should be interesting to see if the Pels will pay BI $28-29m/year when he is a RFA.


DLo got $29/yr x 4... and a lotta people (me included) see BI ceiling as higher so yeah, better pay up
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:11 am    Post subject:

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yinoma2001 wrote:
Should be interesting to see if the Pels will pay BI $28-29m/year when he is a RFA.


DLo got $29/yr x 4... and a lotta people (me included) see BI ceiling as higher so yeah, better pay up


I like Ingram but paying him 25+ mil is how you end up in purgatory as a 37-42 win team
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:20 am    Post subject:

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yinoma2001 wrote:
Should be interesting to see if the Pels will pay BI $28-29m/year when he is a RFA.


DLo got $29/yr x 4... and a lotta people (me included) see BI ceiling as higher so yeah, better pay up


He needs to show improvement from 3, be a bit less ball dominant, and show health.

I will miss his defensive versatility. We really could use someone like him on the team for defense.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:37 am    Post subject:

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governator wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Should be interesting to see if the Pels will pay BI $28-29m/year when he is a RFA.


DLo got $29/yr x 4... and a lotta people (me included) see BI ceiling as higher so yeah, better pay up


I like Ingram but paying him 25+ mil is how you end up in purgatory as a 37-42 win team


I doubt that a contract like that will be a detriment to the Pelican’s cap. They aren’t going to be signing a max player and having Ingram on a contract like that would be a good potential trade asset.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:57 am    Post subject:

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You have to wonder if ESPN makes the same decision if his son was still in the same market. From an off the court perspective (which may help on the court play psychologically as well), being traded to New Orleans may be great for Zo. May shut up his dad and quiet the outside noise that LA brings so he can just focus on basketball.


Maybe if the Pelicans didn't draft Zion. Because of that the Pels will have a national media following this season. Even if ESPN won't follow him there will be other media there who will want Lavar soundbites. Regardless of what people think about his opinions he draws interest.

You click on Lonzo's ESPN player profile and the first embedded video is of his dad.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:30 pm    Post subject:

governator wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Should be interesting to see if the Pels will pay BI $28-29m/year when he is a RFA.


DLo got $29/yr x 4... and a lotta people (me included) see BI ceiling as higher so yeah, better pay up

IF oladipo didnt get injured would dlo have gotten that contract?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:41 pm    Post subject:

PayasoLoco wrote:
governator wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Should be interesting to see if the Pels will pay BI $28-29m/year when he is a RFA.


DLo got $29/yr x 4... and a lotta people (me included) see BI ceiling as higher so yeah, better pay up

IF oladipo didnt get injured would dlo have gotten that contract?


Good question, the all-star label prob got him that extra $9mil (or that GS didn't have any other play to get asset), he was prob seen something of Brogdon value
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:03 pm    Post subject:

governator wrote:
PayasoLoco wrote:
governator wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Should be interesting to see if the Pels will pay BI $28-29m/year when he is a RFA.


DLo got $29/yr x 4... and a lotta people (me included) see BI ceiling as higher so yeah, better pay up

IF oladipo didnt get injured would dlo have gotten that contract?


Good question, the all-star label prob got him that extra $9mil (or that GS didn't have any other play to get asset), he was prob seen something of Brogdon value


Tobias Harris got 5/180 and he's never been an allstar while constantly bouncing around the league.

Jamal Murray also got a 5/170 extension as well and he's no allstar while playing worse than DLO.

Brogdon's contract value is understated since it also included picks to prevent the bucks from matching.

While the all star status pretty much cemented it, the chances would have still been high given DLO led the nets to a 6th seed and over .500 record.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:11 pm    Post subject:

dabask11 wrote:
governator wrote:
PayasoLoco wrote:
governator wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Should be interesting to see if the Pels will pay BI $28-29m/year when he is a RFA.


DLo got $29/yr x 4... and a lotta people (me included) see BI ceiling as higher so yeah, better pay up

IF oladipo didnt get injured would dlo have gotten that contract?


Good question, the all-star label prob got him that extra $9mil (or that GS didn't have any other play to get asset), he was prob seen something of Brogdon value


Tobias Harris got 5/180 and he's never been an allstar while constantly bouncing around the league.

Jamal Murray also got a 5/170 extension as well and he's no allstar while playing worse than DLO.

Brogdon's contract value is understated since it also included picks to prevent the bucks from matching.

While the all star status pretty much cemented it, the chances would have still been high given DLO led the nets to a 6th seed and over .500 record.


The common thread among those players is they were integral pieces of winning teams. Randle had as good of a season statistically as any of those guys and better than Ingram but the Pels didn't make much of an effort to keep him and he ended up settling for a two year deal with only $4 million of the third year guaranteed.

BI should have plenty of opportunities to showcase his "ceiling". It doesn't look he'll have much competition at his position. Hopefully, he can stay healthy.
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