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pio2u
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | Just so you guys know, I recall someone mentioning (not sure who) that Ball gets better game by game, he got better from HS to College even though the level of competition was greater so if we go with that notion his Summer league stats won't mean squat and he will put up even greater numbers.
That's essentially why people think he can make a great impact right away. |
He'll make an impact because he will be an immediate starter. However he will surely have NBA growing pains. But in time;....... he could be a great one. |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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| pio2u wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Just so you guys know, I recall someone mentioning (not sure who) that Ball gets better game by game, he got better from HS to College even though the level of competition was greater so if we go with that notion his Summer league stats won't mean squat and he will put up even greater numbers.
That's essentially why people think he can make a great impact right away. |
He'll make an impact because he will be an immediate starter. However he will surely have NBA growing pains. But in time;....... he could be a great one. |
If NBA growing pains makes him even better then I will take it  |
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nash
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| I don't think a rookie Ball is going to be any worse than what we had in recent past. It may take a while to learn how to play defense, but he is not taking the place of any defensive savant to be concerned. Without Lou, Nick and others we can end up as a better defensive team than last season. |
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Car54
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| Ziggy wrote: | | splashmtn wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | If Ball puts up these #'s:
14pts 45% 35%
9 ast
7 rebs
3 rpm
I think the Lakers will make the playoffs with the current team built. After watching summer league I'm hopefully this is what will happen. |
If that funny looking 3 ball starts popping like it did for him in college(when he was shooting nba ranged 3's) Then I can easily see those numbers or better. the court will be spread. |
I remember reading he only shot something like 30% from nba distance 3 though. That, and his sub-par free throw %, have me a bit concerned about his shooting at the next level. |
I don't think that's true but here's his shot chart https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/6hut4p/lonzo_balls_college_shot_chart/
Someone posted that it was 34% but I'm not sure how deep those were
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:49 am Post subject: |
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| Car54 wrote: | | Ziggy wrote: | | splashmtn wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | If Ball puts up these #'s:
14pts 45% 35%
9 ast
7 rebs
3 rpm
I think the Lakers will make the playoffs with the current team built. After watching summer league I'm hopefully this is what will happen. |
If that funny looking 3 ball starts popping like it did for him in college(when he was shooting nba ranged 3's) Then I can easily see those numbers or better. the court will be spread. |
I remember reading he only shot something like 30% from nba distance 3 though. That, and his sub-par free throw %, have me a bit concerned about his shooting at the next level. |
I don't think that's true but here's his shot chart https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/6hut4p/lonzo_balls_college_shot_chart/
Someone posted that it was 34% but I'm not sure how deep those were |
It was 34%, which is a good percentage for any prospect coming out of college. And yes, a lot of those were from deep. I'm not concerned. The kid works hard on his game and being on the court with better ball handlers than he's used to, he's going to be wide open on a majority of his shot attempts. I expect him to be a good threat from 3 for most of his career. |
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splashmtn
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Ziggy wrote: | | splashmtn wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | If Ball puts up these #'s:
14pts 45% 35%
9 ast
7 rebs
3 rpm
I think the Lakers will make the playoffs with the current team built. After watching summer league I'm hopefully this is what will happen. |
If that funny looking 3 ball starts popping like it did for him in college(when he was shooting nba ranged 3's) Then I can easily see those numbers or better. the court will be spread. |
I remember reading he only shot something like 30% from nba distance 3 though. That, and his sub-par free throw %, have me a bit concerned about his shooting at the next level. |
If he hit 30% from 3 while having a defender guarding him while doing a step back. I'll take that. that tells me that catch and shoot should be money. the catch and shoot wide open 3's were airballs to bricks to in and outs during the spl. no rhyme or reason why. |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| splashmtn wrote: | | Ziggy wrote: | | splashmtn wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | If Ball puts up these #'s:
14pts 45% 35%
9 ast
7 rebs
3 rpm
I think the Lakers will make the playoffs with the current team built. After watching summer league I'm hopefully this is what will happen. |
If that funny looking 3 ball starts popping like it did for him in college(when he was shooting nba ranged 3's) Then I can easily see those numbers or better. the court will be spread. |
I remember reading he only shot something like 30% from nba distance 3 though. That, and his sub-par free throw %, have me a bit concerned about his shooting at the next level. |
If he hit 30% from 3 while having a defender guarding him while doing a step back. I'll take that. that tells me that catch and shoot should be money. the catch and shoot wide open 3's were airballs to bricks to in and outs during the spl. no rhyme or reason why. |
The different nba ball, less grip than college ball. A lot of shooters take a while to get use to the nba ball. |
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I come with good news. Lonzo's been at the facility essentially every night since coming back. Brothers too occasionally with him.
So good news on that end
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| Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 5:02 am Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | I come with good news. Lonzo's been at the facility essentially every night since coming back. Brothers too occasionally with him.
So good news on that end |
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Is he wearing UCLA shorts? Or do the Lakers have baby blue shorts? |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:45 am Post subject: |
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Im shocked! |
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I'm predicting 13 points 7 assists 5 rebounds on 42/36/75
I don't think he'll have a slow start, I think he'll come out like he's meant to be a star. He'll hit some rookie struggles along the way but for the most part I think he'll impress this season.
I think he'll end up with around 7-15 points most games, some where his three is falling and everything is going for him and some where he just couldn't get a bucket to save his life.
I think his assists and rebounds will be pretty consistent and he'll look like a natural point guard, he'll have a few games where his passing game looks really great and some games where he has 5 turnovers.
Defense will be a work in progress, he won't be great and might even be really bad for the majority of the season.
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| 1ngr4m wrote: | I'm predicting 13 points 7 assists 5 rebounds on 42/36/75
I don't think he'll have a slow start, I think he'll come out like he's meant to be a star. He'll hit some rookie struggles along the way but for the most part I think he'll impress this season.
I think he'll end up with around 7-15 points most games, some where his three is falling and everything is going for him and some where he just couldn't get a bucket to save his life.
I think his assists and rebounds will be pretty consistent and he'll look like a natural point guard, he'll have a few games where his passing game looks really great and some games where he has 5 turnovers.
Defense will be a work in progress, he won't be great and might even be really bad for the majority of the season. |
LaVar Ball disagrees. |
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lakerican
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| Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | 1ngr4m wrote: | I'm predicting 13 points 7 assists 5 rebounds on 42/36/75
I don't think he'll have a slow start, I think he'll come out like he's meant to be a star. He'll hit some rookie struggles along the way but for the most part I think he'll impress this season.
I think he'll end up with around 7-15 points most games, some where his three is falling and everything is going for him and some where he just couldn't get a bucket to save his life.
I think his assists and rebounds will be pretty consistent and he'll look like a natural point guard, he'll have a few games where his passing game looks really great and some games where he has 5 turnovers.
Defense will be a work in progress, he won't be great and might even be really bad for the majority of the season. |
LaVar Ball disagrees. |
So...
you're LaVar Ball, unless you're VLF  |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Fun trivia game:
What will be Lonzo Ball's career high in assists.
I'm gonna go with 29. |
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epak
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| Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | Fun trivia game:
What will be Lonzo Ball's career high in assists.
I'm gonna go with 29. |
I don't have the patience to wait 18 years for the answer to this question. |
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ibitegirls
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| trivia ? really? |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Fun trivia game:
What will be Lonzo Ball's career high in assists.
I'm gonna go with 29. |
I don't have the patience to wait 18 years for the answer to this question. |
dont worry, he'll come out blazing in day one with 18 assist  |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:38 am Post subject: |
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LaVar thinks he's already better then Curry, now if that isn't setting the bar high I don't know what is, he also probably thinks he's better then LeBron which he did allude to when he was interviewed by Chris Broussard....
He needs to deliver from day 1 or he's gonna hear it. |
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Just remember.
He is 19 years old.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | Just remember.
He is 19 years old. |
A 19 year old with a poised and humble personality and the way he handles himself he's like a vet right now, dude understands the game more then handful of NBA players right now. |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | LaVar thinks he's already better then Curry, now if that isn't setting the bar high I don't know what is, he also probably thinks he's better then LeBron which he did allude to when he was interviewed by Chris Broussard....
He needs to deliver from day 1 or he's gonna hear it. |
wow, that's insane
19 year old Lebron wasn't even close to current Lebron or Curry.
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Just remember.
He is 19 years old. |
A 19 year old with a poised and humble personality and the way he handles himself he's like a vet right now, dude understands the game more then handful of NBA players right now. |
He has a 19 year old body.
He hasn't faced the full grind of a season, the road travels, the temptations on the road, etc.
He's just a kid.
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| 1ngr4m wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | LaVar thinks he's already better then Curry, now if that isn't setting the bar high I don't know what is, he also probably thinks he's better then LeBron which he did allude to when he was interviewed by Chris Broussard....
He needs to deliver from day 1 or he's gonna hear it. |
wow, that's insane
19 year old Lebron wasn't even close to current Lebron or Curry. |
His dad is a idiot, this is why I'm kinda worried that there is gonna be a lot of melt downs if he doesn't deliver like his crazy dad is predicting. |
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