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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:41 pm    Post subject:

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I love this kid but how can YOU NOT say he's injury-prone? Up until this point, HE IS! SUCKS!

What are you drinking? I'm having an Old Grandad old fashioned.


I think he's going off SL and preseason
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Injury prone?


No itís the preseason, it would be dumb to play him in a stupid pick up game.


Yet every other team is doing it?


A lot of star players arenít playing or are playing less minutes, If the Lakers played Ball right now and he aggravated the injury again and misses 1 month, then the Lakers will be under fire and fans everywhere will be raged. Iím more interested in watching Kuzma then Ball right now anyway.

You mean star players that have already proven themselves and have played through numerous NBA seasons? Lonzo is a rookie who needs all the practice he can get, he's not a star.
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yinoma2001 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Injury prone?


No itís the preseason, it would be dumb to play him in a stupid pick up game.


Yet every other team is doing it?


A lot of star players arenít playing or are playing less minutes, If the Lakers played Ball right now and he aggravated the injury again and misses 1 month, then the Lakers will be under fire and fans everywhere will be raged. Iím more interested in watching Kuzma then Ball right now anyway.

You mean star players that have already proven themselves and have played through numerous NBA seasons? Lonzo is a rookie who needs all the practice he can get, he's not a star.


You make it sound like heís refusing to practice
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:20 pm    Post subject:

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I love this kid but how can YOU NOT say he's injury-prone? Up until this point, HE IS! SUCKS!

What are you drinking? I'm having an Old Grandad old fashioned.


I think he's going off SL and preseason

What a triple double bum!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:28 pm    Post subject:

He needs reps for sure but uh letís get to a more important topic, what shoes would he be wearing on opening night?!

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BynumForThree wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Injury prone?


No itís the preseason, it would be dumb to play him in a stupid pick up game.


Yet every other team is doing it?


A lot of star players arenít playing or are playing less minutes, If the Lakers played Ball right now and he aggravated the injury again and misses 1 month, then the Lakers will be under fire and fans everywhere will be raged. Iím more interested in watching Kuzma then Ball right now anyway.

You mean star players that have already proven themselves and have played through numerous NBA seasons? Lonzo is a rookie who needs all the practice he can get, he's not a star.


Lol, my point was clear, he doesn't need to play right now at all, it doesn't matter if he's a star or not, there is no point giving effort in preseason a lot of players obviously don't when it comes to pre season and Lonzo is good enough to come in right away and have his presence felt, he's been playing basketball for years and the NBA regular season is were he's gonna make his mark.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:31 pm    Post subject:

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BynumForThree wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Injury prone?


No itís the preseason, it would be dumb to play him in a stupid pick up game.


Yet every other team is doing it?


A lot of star players arenít playing or are playing less minutes, If the Lakers played Ball right now and he aggravated the injury again and misses 1 month, then the Lakers will be under fire and fans everywhere will be raged. Iím more interested in watching Kuzma then Ball right now anyway.

You mean star players that have already proven themselves and have played through numerous NBA seasons? Lonzo is a rookie who needs all the practice he can get, he's not a star.


You make it sound like heís refusing to practice


Obviously he's not and wouldn't be. He can't practice or play, Which is why I'm a little concerned. If it was a mild sprain, with his age and the training staff he has access to, he should be fine. A week after his sprain happened, reporters said he was still limping. Spectrum staff are saying they still (as in as of today) see him with his leg propped up onto a chair, hooked up to an electronic stimulation machine every practice and that he can't participate. The injury was clearly more serious than they described and/or he's a slow healer. That's something to watch, especially given his play style.

The sample size is far too small to draw any conclusions, but it is discouraging. As yinoma has said, this is important time for the team as they're implementing their offensive and defensive schemes and learning to play together, especially since training camp was shortened starting this year. If he can't even practice with the team, it's probably not them holding him out of games just to be cautious and more he actually can't play.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:41 pm    Post subject:

mhan00 wrote:
socalsp3 wrote:
BynumForThree wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Injury prone?


No itís the preseason, it would be dumb to play him in a stupid pick up game.


Yet every other team is doing it?


A lot of star players arenít playing or are playing less minutes, If the Lakers played Ball right now and he aggravated the injury again and misses 1 month, then the Lakers will be under fire and fans everywhere will be raged. Iím more interested in watching Kuzma then Ball right now anyway.

You mean star players that have already proven themselves and have played through numerous NBA seasons? Lonzo is a rookie who needs all the practice he can get, he's not a star.


You make it sound like heís refusing to practice


Obviously he's not and wouldn't be. He can't practice or play, Which is why I'm a little concerned. If it was a mild sprain, with his age and the training staff he has access to, he should be fine. A week after his sprain happened, reporters said he was still limping. Spectrum staff are saying they still (as in as of today) see him with his leg propped up onto a chair, hooked up to an electronic stiulation machine every practice and that he can't participate. The injury was clearly more serious than they described and/or he's a slow healer. That's something to watch, especially given his play style.

The sample size is far too small to draw any conclusions, but it is discouraging. As yinoma has said, this is important time for the team as they're implementing their offensive and defensive schemes and learning to play together, especially since training camp was shortened starting this year. If he can't even practice with the team, it's probably not them holding him out of games just to be cautious and more he actually can't play.


When it happened it looked bad to me. He was landing from a maximum effort jump. No surprise to me he is still out.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:42 pm    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
BynumForThree wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Injury prone?


No itís the preseason, it would be dumb to play him in a stupid pick up game.


Yet every other team is doing it?


A lot of star players arenít playing or are playing less minutes, If the Lakers played Ball right now and he aggravated the injury again and misses 1 month, then the Lakers will be under fire and fans everywhere will be raged. Iím more interested in watching Kuzma then Ball right now anyway.

You mean star players that have already proven themselves and have played through numerous NBA seasons? Lonzo is a rookie who needs all the practice he can get, he's not a star.


Lol, my point was clear, he doesn't need to play right now at all, it doesn't matter if he's a star or not, there is no point giving effort in preseason a lot of players obviously don't when it comes to pre season and Lonzo is good enough to come in right away and have his presence felt, he's been playing basketball for years and the NBA regular season is were he's gonna make his mark.


Vet teams who know how to play together don't need to care about preseason. We don't have that luxury. Iirc, Luke himself said that he wanted Lonzo to be playing in preseason and an injury would be a setback for the team because so much was predicated on Lonzo's ability to push and pass the ball. The first couple of games showed why Lonzo needed the reps, because he needs to learn to play against actual NBA talent, not Summer League hopefuls, and actual NBA defenses which actually adjust. Losing Lonzo for nearly the entire preseason due to the ankle was clearly disappointing and surprising from Luke's comments today.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:45 pm    Post subject:

mhan00 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
BynumForThree wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Injury prone?


No itís the preseason, it would be dumb to play him in a stupid pick up game.


Yet every other team is doing it?


A lot of star players arenít playing or are playing less minutes, If the Lakers played Ball right now and he aggravated the injury again and misses 1 month, then the Lakers will be under fire and fans everywhere will be raged. Iím more interested in watching Kuzma then Ball right now anyway.

You mean star players that have already proven themselves and have played through numerous NBA seasons? Lonzo is a rookie who needs all the practice he can get, he's not a star.


Lol, my point was clear, he doesn't need to play right now at all, it doesn't matter if he's a star or not, there is no point giving effort in preseason a lot of players obviously don't when it comes to pre season and Lonzo is good enough to come in right away and have his presence felt, he's been playing basketball for years and the NBA regular season is were he's gonna make his mark.


Vet teams who know how to play together don't need to care about preseason. We don't have that luxury. Iirc, Luke himself said that he wanted Lonzo to be playing in preseason and an injury would be a setback for the team because so much was predicated on Lonzo's ability to push and pass the ball. The first couple of games showed why Lonzo needed the reps, because he needs to learn to play against actual NBA talent, not Summer League hopefuls, and actual NBA defenses which actually adjust. Losing Lonzo for nearly the entire preseason due to the ankle was clearly disappointing and surprising from Luke's comments today.


For some guys the regular season is the pre-season. Shaq comes to mind.
Lonzo hasn't played a few meaningless games? What's the stress? He'll get a lot of minutes all season long. It's not like he's getting cut next monday.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:48 pm    Post subject:

Widespread Lonzo fever making Lakers a tough ticket already

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The latest Lonzo Ball-related news happened quietly. That might be news in itself for a guy whose mere choice in footwear generates headlines. The Los Angeles Lakers sold out the remaining 5 percent of their season-ticket inventory this week. All gone. The Lakers had 95 percent renewal from their season-ticket holders before the draft, but now that Lonzo Ball is a Laker ó and fresh off his tantalizing summer league run ó they hit capacity. After a seat-viewing open house at Staples Center, fans bought up the 600 available seats. (Last yearís event yielded about 175 ticket sales). 22 hours ago Ė via ESPN



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:06 am    Post subject:

carlosLisboa wrote:
mhan00 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
BynumForThree wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Injury prone?


No itís the preseason, it would be dumb to play him in a stupid pick up game.


Yet every other team is doing it?


A lot of star players arenít playing or are playing less minutes, If the Lakers played Ball right now and he aggravated the injury again and misses 1 month, then the Lakers will be under fire and fans everywhere will be raged. Iím more interested in watching Kuzma then Ball right now anyway.

You mean star players that have already proven themselves and have played through numerous NBA seasons? Lonzo is a rookie who needs all the practice he can get, he's not a star.


Lol, my point was clear, he doesn't need to play right now at all, it doesn't matter if he's a star or not, there is no point giving effort in preseason a lot of players obviously don't when it comes to pre season and Lonzo is good enough to come in right away and have his presence felt, he's been playing basketball for years and the NBA regular season is were he's gonna make his mark.


Vet teams who know how to play together don't need to care about preseason. We don't have that luxury. Iirc, Luke himself said that he wanted Lonzo to be playing in preseason and an injury would be a setback for the team because so much was predicated on Lonzo's ability to push and pass the ball. The first couple of games showed why Lonzo needed the reps, because he needs to learn to play against actual NBA talent, not Summer League hopefuls, and actual NBA defenses which actually adjust. Losing Lonzo for nearly the entire preseason due to the ankle was clearly disappointing and surprising from Luke's comments today.


For some guys the regular season is the pre-season. Shaq comes to mind.
Lonzo hasn't played a few meaningless games? What's the stress? He'll get a lot of minutes all season long. It's not like he's getting cut next monday.


I'm going to ignore the Shaq point since that isn't even close to being analogous. Champion Shaq playing his way into shape after winning a ring after eight years in the league is different than a rookie who hasn't played a minute of actual NBA basketball.

And the preseason isn't meaningless for us. Lonzo hasn't played with Lopez, a guy who figures to be fairly prominent in our offense. Luke hasn't been able to experiment with different lineups with Lonzo to see who fits with him. And the stress is the thought that maybe he won't be able to play a lot of minutes all season long. As was stated many times, it's too early to really worry about it, it's just something to think about since the ankle injury has lingered as long as it has. No one is panicking yet (or at least I'm not) but it's just something to keep an eye on going forward.
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Ducking Pat Beverly


Ducking the entire Clippers


He just didn't want to be upstaged by the best PG in LA, Teodosic.


That might actually be true this season
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:32 am    Post subject:

The Clippers suck. I don't even care if they don't, they still suck.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:37 am    Post subject:

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Ducking Pat Beverly


Ducking the entire Clippers


He just didn't want to be upstaged by the best PG in LA, Teodosic.


That might actually be true this season


Not impressed with Teodosic's game so far.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:00 am    Post subject:

Have none of you rolled an ankle before? It's not something you just bounce right back from. It lingers for a while. Fultz was lucky when he rolled his in early July because he had over a month until training camp started to get back to 100%.

Ball just landed on someone's foot and rolled his ankle. It's a freak thing that could happen to ANYONE. The comparisons to Curry's ankle problems and stuff like that are pure hysteria.
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I donít know about pure hysteria, but definitely premature
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:22 am    Post subject:

carlosLisboa wrote:
mhan00 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
BynumForThree wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Injury prone?


No itís the preseason, it would be dumb to play him in a stupid pick up game.


Yet every other team is doing it?


A lot of star players arenít playing or are playing less minutes, If the Lakers played Ball right now and he aggravated the injury again and misses 1 month, then the Lakers will be under fire and fans everywhere will be raged. Iím more interested in watching Kuzma then Ball right now anyway.

You mean star players that have already proven themselves and have played through numerous NBA seasons? Lonzo is a rookie who needs all the practice he can get, he's not a star.


Lol, my point was clear, he doesn't need to play right now at all, it doesn't matter if he's a star or not, there is no point giving effort in preseason a lot of players obviously don't when it comes to pre season and Lonzo is good enough to come in right away and have his presence felt, he's been playing basketball for years and the NBA regular season is were he's gonna make his mark.


Vet teams who know how to play together don't need to care about preseason. We don't have that luxury. Iirc, Luke himself said that he wanted Lonzo to be playing in preseason and an injury would be a setback for the team because so much was predicated on Lonzo's ability to push and pass the ball. The first couple of games showed why Lonzo needed the reps, because he needs to learn to play against actual NBA talent, not Summer League hopefuls, and actual NBA defenses which actually adjust. Losing Lonzo for nearly the entire preseason due to the ankle was clearly disappointing and surprising from Luke's comments today.


For some guys the regular season is the pre-season. Shaq comes to mind.
Lonzo hasn't played a few meaningless games? What's the stress? He'll get a lot of minutes all season long. It's not like he's getting cut next monday.


I guess you're right what the heck they're going to lose most games with him anyways. This just delays the negative posts for awhile.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:18 pm    Post subject:

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Widespread Lonzo fever making Lakers a tough ticket already

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The latest Lonzo Ball-related news happened quietly. That might be news in itself for a guy whose mere choice in footwear generates headlines. The Los Angeles Lakers sold out the remaining 5 percent of their season-ticket inventory this week. All gone. The Lakers had 95 percent renewal from their season-ticket holders before the draft, but now that Lonzo Ball is a Laker ó and fresh off his tantalizing summer league run ó they hit capacity. After a seat-viewing open house at Staples Center, fans bought up the 600 available seats. (Last yearís event yielded about 175 ticket sales). 22 hours ago Ė via ESPN



http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20125000/nba-lonzo-ball-putting-la-lakers-fans-their-rightful-place


Now he just has to play.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:32 pm    Post subject:

socalsp3 wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
socalsp3 wrote:
epak wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
Ducking Pat Beverly


Ducking the entire Clippers


He just didn't want to be upstaged by the best PG in LA, Teodosic.


That might actually be true this season


Not impressed with Teodosic's game so far.


listening to someone discussing Teodosic this week....."It's not that he is bad at defense or is unable to play defense....it is more like simply chooses to not play defense....like ever"
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:05 pm    Post subject:

Zo vs Kuz half court shooting competition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIO9iTWLqPY

Zo looks like he's moving ok
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Zo vs Kuz half court shooting competition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIO9iTWLqPY

Zo looks like he's moving ok


No doubt that there holding him out because of it being preseason, Lakers probably think he's good enough and has the intelligence to come in from a long lay off and make a Impact, that's what generational talents do.
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Zo vs Kuz half court shooting competition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIO9iTWLqPY

Zo looks like he's moving ok


Looks like he can go on Friday vs the clips if he wanted to but theyíd probably hold him out until opening night
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:15 pm    Post subject:

Hold him out! Looks like he could be close to 100% next Thursday, can't wait
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Zo vs Kuz half court shooting competition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIO9iTWLqPY

Zo looks like he's moving ok


He looks fine, he'll be ready for the opener.
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