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| justsomelakerfan wrote: | | LaMelo has one of the most punchable faces I've ever seen |
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| Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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| PROPHET wrote: | | justsomelakerfan wrote: | | CervantesRises wrote: | | justsomelakerfan wrote: | | LaMelo has one of the most punchable faces I've ever seen |
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Nothing personal. There's just something about it |
Yup, I feel the same way. |
Wait, doesn't Lavar's face scream for a Chris Childs two-piece?  |
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| Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| AFireInside619 wrote: | | PROPHET wrote: | | justsomelakerfan wrote: | | CervantesRises wrote: | | justsomelakerfan wrote: | | LaMelo has one of the most punchable faces I've ever seen |
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Nothing personal. There's just something about it |
Yup, I feel the same way. |
Wait, doesn't Lavar's face scream for a Chris Childs two-piece? |
Nothing personal...Zac Efron Effect for Teenagers?
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | GoldenThroat wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | GoldenThroat wrote: | I'm pretty certain that LiAngelo won't make the NBA. In fact, I don't think he gets into UCLA if he's not part of a package deal with his brothers.
I'd bet against LaMelo making it too, but he's only 15 an it's way too early to make that kind of determination. |
I agree about middle Ball but why don't you think the younger one can?
Young sophomore who's already put up 90 in a game, has advanced dribble moves for his age, can shoot from anywhere, decent passer and is growing like a weed. I think there is a better chance he gets drafted in the lottery than not at all. |
I'm not saying he can't, I'd just guess that he won't. He's considered a Top 15-20 player in his recruiting class, which can change a ton, but if I had to guess I'd say he doesn't make it. I don't feel terribly convicted about that opinion though. |
That's completely fair and reasonable I'm just wondering why you feel that way |
is it really fair? when the middle brother is averaging over 30ppg?
when the middle brother is the best shooter of all 3 brothers and he has the best looking form/release out of them all. He's also the biggest, will probably end up the strongest once he becomes a grown man.
The fact that he can shoot so well right now and he's the size of a NBA Player already at 6'5 220lbs not fat at all. means, he could sneak in on someone's roster and sit at the edge of the bench if someone needs a shooter. |
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| Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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LiAngelo is the 41st ranked Small Forward in his class.
I dig Lonzo and like some of what LaVar is about, but I don't think I can take too much of PnP stanning for anything and everything Ball-related. |
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| Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Fracture wrote: | | I think the youngest Ball might get a shot at the NBA, idk about the middle one. |
again guys... the middle one is the best shooter/scorer out of the 3 balls. He's also the biggest at 6'5 220.
He's already the size of a strong nba player. he can shoot well enough right now to assume he could shoot nba 3's if he practiced nothing but that at an elite level. the reason i say this is because all 3 kids shoot a lot of 3's from nba range right now. he knows when to post up smaller/weaker guys and he has great touch in the paint. quiet as kept he's a smaller version of glenn big dog robinson. you tell the middle ball to run off a screen or make it curl or rush down the court and spread out behind the 3 pt line if a defender doesnt follow him. he's probably going to make the shot in high school, in college, and in the nba. That kind of player has some value in the nba. not a ton. but some. no he wont be able to play defense. lets just say it right now. no he wont be a rebounder like big dog robinson. which is why he will be a specialist type of player. come in and score the ball/shoot some 3's and sit your slow butt back down. |
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| Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| GoldenThroat wrote: | LiAngelo is the 41st ranked Small Forward in his class.
I dig Lonzo and like some of what LaVar is about, but I don't think I can take too much of PnP stanning for anything and everything Ball-related. |
So we'll get LiAngelo with the 2nd round pick next year. 
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| Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Megaton wrote: | | GoldenThroat wrote: | LiAngelo is the 41st ranked Small Forward in his class.
I dig Lonzo and like some of what LaVar is about, but I don't think I can take too much of PnP stanning for anything and everything Ball-related. |
So we'll get LiAngelo with the 2nd round pick next year. |
What are we, the Ball boys day care center? |
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| WeDidItReddit wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | GoldenThroat wrote: | LiAngelo is the 41st ranked Small Forward in his class.
I dig Lonzo and like some of what LaVar is about, but I don't think I can take too much of PnP stanning for anything and everything Ball-related. |
So we'll get LiAngelo with the 2nd round pick next year. |
What are we, the Ball boys day care center? |
Sounds like a new line for the BBB shirt line.
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| splashmtn wrote: | | Fracture wrote: | | I think the youngest Ball might get a shot at the NBA, idk about the middle one. |
again guys... the middle one is the best shooter/scorer out of the 3 balls. He's also the biggest at 6'5 220.
He's already the size of a strong nba player. he can shoot well enough right now to assume he could shoot nba 3's if he practiced nothing but that at an elite level. the reason i say this is because all 3 kids shoot a lot of 3's from nba range right now. he knows when to post up smaller/weaker guys and he has great touch in the paint. quiet as kept he's a smaller version of glenn big dog robinson. you tell the middle ball to run off a screen or make it curl or rush down the court and spread out behind the 3 pt line if a defender doesnt follow him. he's probably going to make the shot in high school, in college, and in the nba. That kind of player has some value in the nba. not a ton. but some. no he wont be able to play defense. lets just say it right now. no he wont be a rebounder like big dog robinson. which is why he will be a specialist type of player. come in and score the ball/shoot some 3's and sit your slow butt back down. |
Is that you Lavar? I advise you to watch Gelo's performance vs Oak Hill Academy and Mater Dei in his senior year. He's very one dimensional and doesn't bring anything to the table but shoot & he shoots at a highly ridiculous rate. He's also very slow laterally and has been dinged and hampered by ankle and foot injuries since his Junior year at Chino Hills. Please stop making / hyping Gelo into something he isnt and won't ever become. |
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| Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| justsomelakerfan wrote: | | LaMelo has one of the most punchable faces I've ever seen |
Look, even if he's got a Beavis meets Marcus Smart visage, it's not cool to punch underage teens. Generally. |
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| Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| justsomelakerfan wrote: | | LaMelo has one of the most punchable faces I've ever seen |
You could say the same thing about most other kids his age. 
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| Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Megaton wrote: | | GoldenThroat wrote: | LiAngelo is the 41st ranked Small Forward in his class.
I dig Lonzo and like some of what LaVar is about, but I don't think I can take too much of PnP stanning for anything and everything Ball-related. |
So we'll get LiAngelo with the 2nd round pick next year. |
What I've seen of Liangelo on youtube, I highly doubt he's good enough to enter the draft next year (if ever).
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| splashmtn wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | GoldenThroat wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | GoldenThroat wrote: | I'm pretty certain that LiAngelo won't make the NBA. In fact, I don't think he gets into UCLA if he's not part of a package deal with his brothers.
I'd bet against LaMelo making it too, but he's only 15 an it's way too early to make that kind of determination. |
I agree about middle Ball but why don't you think the younger one can?
Young sophomore who's already put up 90 in a game, has advanced dribble moves for his age, can shoot from anywhere, decent passer and is growing like a weed. I think there is a better chance he gets drafted in the lottery than not at all. |
I'm not saying he can't, I'd just guess that he won't. He's considered a Top 15-20 player in his recruiting class, which can change a ton, but if I had to guess I'd say he doesn't make it. I don't feel terribly convicted about that opinion though. |
That's completely fair and reasonable I'm just wondering why you feel that way |
is it really fair? when the middle brother is averaging over 30ppg?
when the middle brother is the best shooter of all 3 brothers and he has the best looking form/release out of them all. He's also the biggest, will probably end up the strongest once he becomes a grown man.
The fact that he can shoot so well right now and he's the size of a NBA Player already at 6'5 220lbs not fat at all. means, he could sneak in on someone's roster and sit at the edge of the bench if someone needs a shooter. |
The best thing he could do is try to be a Wesley Matthews type of player. If his shooting is legit maybe he should focus on trimming down and work on foot speed for defense. |
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http://fansided.com/2017/05/26/lonzo-ball-scouting-report-finishing/
I don't see most of these plays as pathetic or damming as the author does. But he definitely lacks a certain athleticism to be an elite finisher, that much does get proven
I also disagree with the author's view of a stark difference between Fultz' and Ball's 1v1 dribbling moves. Fultz' moves aren't much more complex, they're really just executed better athletically. Most of Fultz' 1v1 moves are hang/hesitation crossovers, as are Lonzo's. Fultz' P/R handle is better, the behind the backs to split defenders are other worldly of course -- and Lonzo's high/upright dribble is problematic, probably his most damming quality off the dribble.
I don't really like how there's no mention of him shaking the guard defender here https://streamable.com/ca2g5
https://streamable.com/6442u this isn't a simple hesitation move after the first move, and what killed the prospect of a 3rd move was mostly the lack of spacing
https://streamable.com/pmtna this could have just been a smart but poorly executed attempt of posting up a smaller defender. Rushed because of the prospect of a trap, and poor spacing. Not really damming.
https://streamable.com/6fauu I take this more as a positive athletic play than a damming one. Good burst in COD, clears the bigman with a leap - and even though he doesn't bend his body on the finish attempt - it's still a good look. I'm not necessarily down on this play
https://streamable.com/nayyi this is a legit example of an athleticism deficiency in traffic that could hurt his finishing at the next level - BUT, it's also a promising display of attempting creativity finishing. He has a few promising attempts of creativity finishing - but also doesn't quite have the athleticism to pull them off - and you even see that lack of athleticism, looking like he's almost blowing a tire on some of his makes. That's where mine and the author's opinions don't differ so much - I agree to the extent that Lonzo's athleticism in traffic isn't ideal. His bend,shiftiness, how upright he is - all below par for really good NBA finishers. Add in his potential creativity around the rim - and I don't know if that package projects to be below average at the next level. But the case is being made that it's a huge problem.
On the other hand - there is zero case being made about Fultz lack of burst or quickness off the dribble , which I think, probably rears it's head pretty often. Just because Fultz has had more success against college defenders 1v1, doesn't mean that his athletic deficiencies shouldn't be highlighted, and projected with some skepticism - at least an ounce of the skepticism that Lonzo is bombarded with.
So, I don't disagree with all of his premise. And I'm admittedly an optimist projecting creativity finishing improving, and even athleticism improving with strength - I don't think this Lonzo tape is damming. |
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I am spending my Friday night drinking cheap wine and watching Lonzo Ball highlights, and I wouldn't have it any other way
I know I may not always sound like it, but I'm a huge fan, red flags and all. Please just draft him, Magic. I'll be sick if he goes to the Sixers or Suns
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| Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| justsomelakerfan wrote: | I am spending my Friday night drinking cheap wine and watching Lonzo Ball highlights, and I wouldn't have it any other way
I know I may not always sound like it, but I'm a huge fan, red flags and all. Please just draft him, Magic. I'll be sick if he goes to the Sixers or Suns |
Haha. Interesting way to spend a Friday night indeed.
All them back cut ally oops. Sexy. |
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| justsomelakerfan wrote: | I am spending my Friday night drinking cheap wine and watching Lonzo Ball highlights, and I wouldn't have it any other way
I know I may not always sound like it, but I'm a huge fan, red flags and all. Please just draft him, Magic. I'll be sick if he goes to the Sixers or Suns |
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| epak wrote: | | justsomelakerfan wrote: | I am spending my Friday night drinking cheap wine and watching Lonzo Ball highlights, and I wouldn't have it any other way
I know I may not always sound like it, but I'm a huge fan, red flags and all. Please just draft him, Magic. I'll be sick if he goes to the Sixers or Suns |
Haha. Interesting way to spend a Friday night indeed.
All them back cut ally oops. Sexy. |
Does anyone on the Lakers even look out for those kind of plays? I'm serious. Going purely off memory, I think Clarkson throws up more lobs than D'Angelo, or maybe I'm just remembering rookie Clarkson.
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| justsomelakerfan wrote: | | epak wrote: | | justsomelakerfan wrote: | I am spending my Friday night drinking cheap wine and watching Lonzo Ball highlights, and I wouldn't have it any other way
I know I may not always sound like it, but I'm a huge fan, red flags and all. Please just draft him, Magic. I'll be sick if he goes to the Sixers or Suns |
Haha. Interesting way to spend a Friday night indeed.
All them back cut ally oops. Sexy. |
Does anyone on the Lakers even look out for those kind of plays? I'm serious. Going purely off memory, I think Clarkson throws up more lobs than D'Angelo, or maybe I'm just remembering rookie Clarkson.
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| No surprise hearing from his UCLA coach, he hasn't been talking with the media in recent weeks, he's just a dad who loves talking. |
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | pmacla wrote: | | lakid wrote: |
What do you expect Alford to say? he made a deal with the devil to get Lonzo Ball and is now on the hook for Lavar's other 2 sons, he's not going to dime Lavar out. While Lavar may have never attended a practice it has been reported elsewhere that a rep from Lavar's team of associates was basically with Lonzo everywhere in Westwood including practices. I remember seeing this on one of the profiles of the balls. |
especially since the one who is a Freshman this year will have trouble getting time on the court this year |
I guess if you had to make an analogy for it, Lonzo is like Steph Curry while his 2 other sons are like Seth Curry. The other 2 kids will probably not make the NBA and if they manage to do so they would have a limited role. |
Have y'all seen Lamelo play? I think he'll be the best of the three. He will def be a top three pick imo. His handles, shooting, and dribble penetration are better than both his brothers. Liangelo might have hard time making the league. He needs to work on his body. I have no doubt he will play a lot at ucla because he can shoot, and if alford can shoot so dismally in that offense, then Liangelo will def see playing time. If i were him, i wouldnt one and done, id def use that scholarship, get an education and work on his game. If he leaves after one year he's gonna be playing for the defenders. And lamelo is the real deal. Hes got the stuff. |
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