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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:14 pm    Post subject:

Lonzo should play now that the game is over. Let him get some reps
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:32 pm    Post subject:

Ice cold tonight. He'll get 'em next one.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:37 pm    Post subject:

We need a genius shooting coach for Lonzo. I'm not sure what the best course is, but he's never going to be consistent if he doesn't tweak his mechanics.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:38 pm    Post subject:

He got the hibbijibbies with the boss men and his idol in the building. Didn't exude his usual confidence, pace, and poise.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:47 pm    Post subject:

I thought he got these kind of games out of his system.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:08 pm    Post subject:

Can we trade him for a higher draft pick. He was such a waste of a pick.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:15 pm    Post subject:

mookielala wrote:
We need a genius shooting coach for Lonzo. I'm not sure what the best course is, but he's never going to be consistent if he doesn't tweak his mechanics.


You're probably right. His three ball has been super streaky since his Chino Hills days. I don't that see that changing unless he gets a great shooting coach to fix his mechanics.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:12 pm    Post subject:

Seems like he plays better on the road.
Wonder if the numbers say that
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:59 pm    Post subject:

Team of the 80's wrote:
I thought he got these kind of games out of his system.

Nothing defines a rookie more than inconsistency. But every player is capable of having a bad game every now and then, even superstars. Kobe had a plethora of stinkers throughout his career. But I wouldn’t even say Lonzo played badly. He just didn’t play particularly well.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:03 pm    Post subject:

I think Lonzo psyches himself out for big games and situations. He's such an instinctive player at his best that overthinking situations affects him and his shot. He struggled in his first summer league game, struggled in his first NBA game and struggled even worse as the storyline became Lonzo is shooting historically bad.


Part of this might be to do with the fact he's 20 and mentally not sure whether he truly belongs in the league yet.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:13 am    Post subject:

epak wrote:
Seems like he plays better on the road.
Wonder if the numbers say that


Well there's definitely a stark difference in the shooting numbers. I didn't bother to post the FT % because he shoots so few of them and both #'s are awful lol.

Home (23 games)
.320/.276, with a .403 TS %

Road (21 games)
.416/.385, with a .512 TS %
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:43 pm    Post subject:

...imagine Doncic a lot like Lonzo Ball (who I’d argue has been a top 20-25 NBA player in the last 15 games he’s played)...

https://www.thestepien.com/2018/03/08/pre-tourney-notes/
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:06 am    Post subject:

ingle wrote:
I think Lonzo psyches himself out for big games and situations. He's such an instinctive player at his best that overthinking situations affects him and his shot. He struggled in his first summer league game, struggled in his first NBA game and struggled even worse as the storyline became Lonzo is shooting historically bad.


I tend to agree with this.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:19 pm    Post subject:

Other than a couple of hot shooting games, Lonzo does seem to struggle more at Staples.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:41 pm    Post subject:

never really appreciated "breaks" as an athletic trait before watching Lonzo be devoid of it..as well as leaping at high speeds
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:42 pm    Post subject:

Can’t wait until the shooting coach comes and fixes his broke ass shot
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:43 pm    Post subject:

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Can’t wait until the shooting coach comes and fixes his broke ass shot


Hopefully. Either that, or we'll have to live with him being streaky as hell.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:46 pm    Post subject:

al242 wrote:
Can’t wait until the shooting coach comes and fixes his broke ass shot


if you overhaul his form it'll take 2-3 years before it's solid ya know, the change would be a hard divergence.
He's had long stretches where he's the best 3pt shooting rookie in the league..20 games.. rookies need to study and learn their shot before they can avoid straying from it, and become consistent..as well as gain strength.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:49 pm    Post subject:

KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
al242 wrote:
Can’t wait until the shooting coach comes and fixes his broke ass shot


if you overhaul his form it'll take 2-3 years before it's solid ya know, the change would be a hard divergence.
He's had long stretches where he's the best 3pt shooting rookie in the league..20 games.. rookies need to study and learn their shot before they can avoid straying from it, and become consistent..as well as gain strength.


I never said overhaul his shot, maybe tweak it similarly to what happened with Kevin martin. I remember reading an article from Kevin Hart where he mentioned in his sophomore season he tweaked his shot to accommodate the nba game, and the rest is history, he became a sniper.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:50 pm    Post subject:

KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
al242 wrote:
Can’t wait until the shooting coach comes and fixes his broke ass shot


if you overhaul his form it'll take 2-3 years before it's solid ya know, the change would be a hard divergence.
He's had long stretches where he's the best 3pt shooting rookie in the league..20 games.. rookies need to study and learn their shot before they can avoid straying from it, and become consistent..as well as gain strength.


I rather consistency than streakiness....
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:55 pm    Post subject:

Lonzo on the drive passing up too many open layups for a pass makes him predictable.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:59 pm    Post subject:

al242 wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
al242 wrote:
Can’t wait until the shooting coach comes and fixes his broke ass shot


if you overhaul his form it'll take 2-3 years before it's solid ya know, the change would be a hard divergence.
He's had long stretches where he's the best 3pt shooting rookie in the league..20 games.. rookies need to study and learn their shot before they can avoid straying from it, and become consistent..as well as gain strength.


I rather consistency than streakiness....


lol dude... most rookies shoot poorly from 3. Buddy Hield shot 25% from 3 in his first 20 games.. then he also had a poor month late last season as well.
Devin Booker shot 29% from 3 in his last 32 games as a rookie, after starting the season hot. Jamal Murray had a 30 game stretch where he shot 25%.

ya'll need to go look at the precedent.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:52 pm    Post subject:

KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
al242 wrote:
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al242 wrote:
Can’t wait until the shooting coach comes and fixes his broke ass shot


if you overhaul his form it'll take 2-3 years before it's solid ya know, the change would be a hard divergence.
He's had long stretches where he's the best 3pt shooting rookie in the league..20 games.. rookies need to study and learn their shot before they can avoid straying from it, and become consistent..as well as gain strength.


I rather consistency than streakiness....


lol dude... most rookies shoot poorly from 3. Buddy Hield shot 25% from 3 in his first 20 games.. then he also had a poor month late last season as well.
Devin Booker shot 29% from 3 in his last 32 games as a rookie, after starting the season hot. Jamal Murray had a 30 game stretch where he shot 25%.

ya'll need to go look at the precedent.


His shot is def broke, he needs to spend the whole summer shooting free throws and lifting weights
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:54 pm    Post subject:

Inability to draw fouls and make FTs when he does draw them is the most infuriating thing about Zo imo.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:02 pm    Post subject:

Nevermind the 3 ball. What is going on with all the bad exchanges with JR tonight. He needs to work on the drives to the basket, which could be a lot more consistent than the 3.
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