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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:32 pm    Post subject:

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Anybody know if Lonzo worked out with Gunnar last summer or if he worked out in Chino Hills? And what he intends to do this summer?


He worked out with Gunnar after the draft.

He still eats stuff like bowls of cheese though lol. Needs a serious diet change.

Also I think Amoila is a lot better than gunnar when it comes to bball, I hope it's possible for Lonzo to get with him


We need to get all our guys in their with Randle's trainer.


I'm not sure if it's about Amolia being much better then Gunnar. I think last season Julius Randle had a mindset and drive that none of our young guys did.

Both guys know what they're doing, but our guys need to commit to it like Julius commit to the game plan Amolia put for him.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:09 pm    Post subject:

I mean this in the most flattering way possible. Lonzo reminds me of Rondo in multiple ways.
Both players think a pass ahead before the ball is passed to them. Both love to throw up court passes in transition by the time they hit halfcourt, And both hang around when the opposing team's big grabs a defensive rebound, so Lonzo/Rondo can try and grab a steal/pressure the ball handler full court.
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oldschool32 wrote:
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cinimod wrote:
Anybody know if Lonzo worked out with Gunnar last summer or if he worked out in Chino Hills? And what he intends to do this summer?


He worked out with Gunnar after the draft.

He still eats stuff like bowls of cheese though lol. Needs a serious diet change.

Also I think Amoila is a lot better than gunnar when it comes to bball, I hope it's possible for Lonzo to get with him


We need to get all our guys in their with Randle's trainer.


I'm not sure if it's about Amolia being much better then Gunnar. I think last season Julius Randle had a mindset and drive that none of our young guys did.

Both guys know what they're doing, but our guys need to commit to it like Julius commit to the game plan Amolia put for him.


I agree. Randle had a great conditioning coach but it was Randle who had the mindset and drive to make it work.

Randle played 82 games this year, in spite of banging hard against centers all season. Randle set the standard for others to follow. Lonzo needs to reach that standard of putting conditioning first, above all else.
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TooMuchMajicBuss wrote:
Endless3D wrote:
oldschool32 wrote:
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cinimod wrote:
Anybody know if Lonzo worked out with Gunnar last summer or if he worked out in Chino Hills? And what he intends to do this summer?


He worked out with Gunnar after the draft.

He still eats stuff like bowls of cheese though lol. Needs a serious diet change.

Also I think Amoila is a lot better than gunnar when it comes to bball, I hope it's possible for Lonzo to get with him


We need to get all our guys in their with Randle's trainer.


I'm not sure if it's about Amolia being much better then Gunnar. I think last season Julius Randle had a mindset and drive that none of our young guys did.

Both guys know what they're doing, but our guys need to commit to it like Julius commit to the game plan Amolia put for him.


I agree. Randle had a great conditioning coach but it was Randle who had the mindset and drive to make it work.

Randle played 82 games this year, in spite of banging hard against centers all season. Randle set the standard for others to follow. Lonzo needs to reach that standard of putting conditioning first, above all else.

Stop it. They have completely different body types.
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splashmtn wrote:
TooMuchMajicBuss wrote:
Endless3D wrote:
oldschool32 wrote:
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cinimod wrote:
Anybody know if Lonzo worked out with Gunnar last summer or if he worked out in Chino Hills? And what he intends to do this summer?


He worked out with Gunnar after the draft.

He still eats stuff like bowls of cheese though lol. Needs a serious diet change.

Also I think Amoila is a lot better than gunnar when it comes to bball, I hope it's possible for Lonzo to get with him


We need to get all our guys in their with Randle's trainer.


I'm not sure if it's about Amolia being much better then Gunnar. I think last season Julius Randle had a mindset and drive that none of our young guys did.

Both guys know what they're doing, but our guys need to commit to it like Julius commit to the game plan Amolia put for him.


I agree. Randle had a great conditioning coach but it was Randle who had the mindset and drive to make it work.

Randle played 82 games this year, in spite of banging hard against centers all season. Randle set the standard for others to follow. Lonzo needs to reach that standard of putting conditioning first, above all else.

Stop it. They have completely different body types.


He said nothing about body types, Randle set the standards with his body transformation. That mentality is what the rest of the young core needs to have.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:44 pm    Post subject:

First and foremost i would like to see Lonzo learn how to finish around the rim,
Coming into the league i thought Lonzo knew how to use angles around the rim to finish ....kinda like Rondo. What concerns me is not his lack of blow by speed or getting to the basket but knowing what to do when he gets to the basket.
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How did the lakers miss on Mitchell and decided to go with Zo?
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How did the lakers miss on Mitchell and decided to go with Zo?

Mitchell and Tatum have been balling all year long. But if we went that route BI would be running point with Mitchell and with Tatum he’d be running it full time
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How did the lakers miss on Mitchell and decided to go with Zo?

Every damn year
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How did the lakers miss on Mitchell and decided to go with Zo?


Were you in the draft thread screaming for Mitchell?
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splashmtn wrote:
TooMuchMajicBuss wrote:
Endless3D wrote:
oldschool32 wrote:
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cinimod wrote:
Anybody know if Lonzo worked out with Gunnar last summer or if he worked out in Chino Hills? And what he intends to do this summer?


He worked out with Gunnar after the draft.

He still eats stuff like bowls of cheese though lol. Needs a serious diet change.

Also I think Amoila is a lot better than gunnar when it comes to bball, I hope it's possible for Lonzo to get with him


We need to get all our guys in their with Randle's trainer.


I'm not sure if it's about Amolia being much better then Gunnar. I think last season Julius Randle had a mindset and drive that none of our young guys did.

Both guys know what they're doing, but our guys need to commit to it like Julius commit to the game plan Amolia put for him.


I agree. Randle had a great conditioning coach but it was Randle who had the mindset and drive to make it work.

Randle played 82 games this year, in spite of banging hard against centers all season. Randle set the standard for others to follow. Lonzo needs to reach that standard of putting conditioning first, above all else.

Stop it. They have completely different body types.


Yes, they do, but that doesn’t mean that Lonzo can’t learn from Randle's commitment to conditioning.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:19 am    Post subject:

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How did the lakers miss on Mitchell and decided to go with Zo?


The ten teams that picked after the Lakers also passed on Mitchell, so it certainly wasn’t obvious how good he would be.

In any case, I am still predicting that Lonzo has the better NBA career. Lonzo is already better at everything other than shooting/scoring and he is more than a year younger than Mitchell as well.
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How did the lakers miss on Mitchell and decided to go with Zo?


The ten teams that picked after the Lakers also passed on Mitchell, so it certainly wasn’t obvious how good he would be.

In any case, I am still predicting that Lonzo has the better NBA career. Lonzo is already better at everything other than shooting/scoring and he is more than a year younger than Mitchell as well.


I don't want to create a messy debate here but the ONLY people in the world who keep pretending like they'd take Lonzo over Mitchell are those on this board.

Lonzo is a great rebounder, really good defender, and he is a great ball mover but Mitchell is on a completely different level right now. Just as Lonzo can grow in the areas of shooting, handles, scoring, body, etc, so will DM.

But I agree that people shouldn't sweat missing on Mitchell... 12 teams did. In fact Denver traded him for Lyles and Lydon.

There is something about shooting guards at #13: Kobe, Booker, Mitchell.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:56 am    Post subject:

I'd still take Zo over every player in his draft.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:59 am    Post subject:

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I'd still take Zo over every player in his draft.


The don't call this place overreaction.net for nothing.
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I'd still take Zo over every player in his draft.


The don't call this place overreaction.net for nothing.

It's at the point where I think Lavar Ball hacked everyone's accounts.
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I'd still take Zo over every player in his draft.


The don't call this place overreaction.net for nothing.


Mitchell is a year older than Zo. That's one thing. While Mitchell has a chance at being the next best Ray Allen or Brandon Roy, Zo has a chance at being a generational talent who may re-define the PG position.

Mitchell right now is ahead of Zo. However, Zo's ceiling is still higher. I think a debate between Mitchell and Zo, or even Tatum and Zo comes down to those who just see the numbers and can't see the impact.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:22 am    Post subject:

markjay wrote:
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How did the lakers miss on Mitchell and decided to go with Zo?


The ten teams that picked after the Lakers also passed on Mitchell, so it certainly wasn’t obvious how good he would be.

In any case, I am still predicting that Lonzo has the better NBA career. Lonzo is already better at everything other than shooting/scoring and he is more than a year younger than Mitchell as well.


Eh, undersized shooting guard. I'll pass. The Lakers got the right guy.
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I'd still take Zo over every player in his draft.


The don't call this place overreaction.net for nothing.


Mitchell is a year older than Zo. That's one thing. While Mitchell has a chance at being the next best Ray Allen or Brandon Roy, Zo has a chance at being a generational talent who may re-define the PG position.

Mitchell right now is ahead of Zo. However, Zo's ceiling is still higher. I think a debate between Mitchell and Zo, or even Tatum and Zo comes down to those who just see the numbers and can't see the impact.


And this has always been the case when it comes to the proper evaluation of Zo.

I just like to recall his game against Phoenix from early this season as what he'll be looking more and more like as he develops his offensive skill variety and increases his core strength and explosiveness. I'm sure his body will hold up a lot more like that, later in the season. Then people will get the numbers they love to fawn over.
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2019 wrote:
markjay wrote:
Wvc0925 wrote:
How did the lakers miss on Mitchell and decided to go with Zo?


The ten teams that picked after the Lakers also passed on Mitchell, so it certainly wasn’t obvious how good he would be.

In any case, I am still predicting that Lonzo has the better NBA career. Lonzo is already better at everything other than shooting/scoring and he is more than a year younger than Mitchell as well.


I don't want to create a messy debate here but the ONLY people in the world who keep pretending like they'd take Lonzo over Mitchell are those on this board.

Lonzo is a great rebounder, really good defender, and he is a great ball mover but Mitchell is on a completely different level right now. Just as Lonzo can grow in the areas of shooting, handles, scoring, body, etc, so will DM.

But I agree that people shouldn't sweat missing on Mitchell... 12 teams did. In fact Denver traded him for Lyles and Lydon.

There is something about shooting guards at #13: Kobe, Booker, Mitchell.

Mitchell and tatum got drafted by playoff teams and people seem to conveniently forget that- I'm not the best player at LA fitness but once in a while when I get on a good team and I'm the 4th best player on said team?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:39 am    Post subject:

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markjay wrote:
Wvc0925 wrote:
How did the lakers miss on Mitchell and decided to go with Zo?


The ten teams that picked after the Lakers also passed on Mitchell, so it certainly wasn’t obvious how good he would be.

In any case, I am still predicting that Lonzo has the better NBA career. Lonzo is already better at everything other than shooting/scoring and he is more than a year younger than Mitchell as well.


I don't want to create a messy debate here but the ONLY people in the world who keep pretending like they'd take Lonzo over Mitchell are those on this board.

Lonzo is a great rebounder, really good defender, and he is a great ball mover but Mitchell is on a completely different level right now. Just as Lonzo can grow in the areas of shooting, handles, scoring, body, etc, so will DM.

But I agree that people shouldn't sweat missing on Mitchell... 12 teams did. In fact Denver traded him for Lyles and Lydon.

There is something about shooting guards at #13: Kobe, Booker, Mitchell.

Mitchell and tatum got drafted by playoff teams and people seem to conveniently forget that- I'm not the best player at LA fitness but once in a while when I get on a good team and I'm the 4th best player on said team?
I KILL IT...


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I'd still take Zo over every player in his draft.


The don't call this place overreaction.net for nothing.


Mitchell is a year older than Zo. That's one thing. While Mitchell has a chance at being the next best Ray Allen or Brandon Roy, Zo has a chance at being a generational talent who may re-define the PG position.

Mitchell right now is ahead of Zo. However, Zo's ceiling is still higher. I think a debate between Mitchell and Zo, or even Tatum and Zo comes down to those who just see the numbers and can't see the impact.


He has to get better by leaps and bounds for this to be even a thought.
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lakers4life78 wrote:
LakerSanity wrote:
Gimme_the_rock wrote:
LakerSanity wrote:
I'd still take Zo over every player in his draft.


The don't call this place overreaction.net for nothing.


Mitchell is a year older than Zo. That's one thing. While Mitchell has a chance at being the next best Ray Allen or Brandon Roy, Zo has a chance at being a generational talent who may re-define the PG position.

Mitchell right now is ahead of Zo. However, Zo's ceiling is still higher. I think a debate between Mitchell and Zo, or even Tatum and Zo comes down to those who just see the numbers and can't see the impact.


He has to get better by leaps and bounds for this to be even a thought.


Good thing he's starting at 10, 7, & 7 then huh...because if that's sucksville as a rookie year 2 growth projects modestly to 14, 9 & 9.

It's possible that averaging a triple double for the season by year 3 on normal growth metrics is leaps and bounds...but doing something only done by 2 other people in NBA history certainly wouldn't make a player a generational talent...would it?
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CervantesRises wrote:
lakers4life78 wrote:
LakerSanity wrote:
Gimme_the_rock wrote:
LakerSanity wrote:
I'd still take Zo over every player in his draft.


The don't call this place overreaction.net for nothing.


Mitchell is a year older than Zo. That's one thing. While Mitchell has a chance at being the next best Ray Allen or Brandon Roy, Zo has a chance at being a generational talent who may re-define the PG position.

Mitchell right now is ahead of Zo. However, Zo's ceiling is still higher. I think a debate between Mitchell and Zo, or even Tatum and Zo comes down to those who just see the numbers and can't see the impact.


He has to get better by leaps and bounds for this to be even a thought.


Good thing he's starting at 10, 7, & 7 then huh...because if that's sucksville as a rookie year 2 growth projects modestly to 14, 9 & 9.

It's possible that averaging a triple double for the season by year 3 on normal growth metrics is leaps and bounds...but doing something only done by 2 other people in NBA history certainly wouldn't make a player a generational talent...would it?


You're preaching to choir. I am a big Ball guy. His dad, Stephen A idiot, unrealistic expectations and bad shooting have had people overlooking what he contributes. Just read on another thread someone say Hart would be better than Ball as a PG if Lebron came here, which is comical.

But by improvements I mean physicality. He was dinged a lot, plus consistency, and his offense needs to be serviceable. Yes, I see him in the future being a 15-16 ppg, 10 assists, 8-9 rebounds a game guy with defense.

Generational talent is a term thrown around too much.
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