OFFICIAL LONZO BALL THREAD
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 1051, 1052, 1053 ... 1199, 1200, 1201  Next

 
Post new topic    LakersGround.net Forum Index -> LA Lakers Lounge Reply to topic
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Baron Von Humongous
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 02 Jul 2015
Posts: 15708

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:43 am    Post subject:

epak wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
epak wrote:
YSong wrote:
epak wrote:
adkindo wrote:
his dad dropped this nugget again today on the radio....

Quote:
He then said Lonzo deserved credit for Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram and Julius Randle all having career years in 2017-18.

LINK


out of all the ignorant things this man says....I find things like this the most concerning....he keeps mentioning guys in the locker room, especially insinuating their success was only because of his son....it is going to be a problem sooner than later.


Same nugget as when he was on the Herd.
We need to trade Lonzo now!

Lonzo + Deng for Josh Jackson + #1 + $5M
Who says no?


Phoenix LoL

I rather just take the #1 for Zo and Deng and have a nice day


Are you sure?
I mean, Lonzo can't shoot. He had a hurt knee. His dad is horrible.
Can't we unload him for the #1 pick, and last year's #4, all while unloading deng?

Not enough, I say.


Ok final offer!

Lonzo + Deng for #1 pick, Josh Jackson, 2020 #1 and 2019 #2 + $5M.

I assume the 2019 pick is a swap, in which case...maybe. Let me think about it some more.
_________________
Banana Head
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Baron Von Humongous
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 02 Jul 2015
Posts: 15708

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:44 am    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
epak wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
epak wrote:
YSong wrote:
epak wrote:
adkindo wrote:
his dad dropped this nugget again today on the radio....

Quote:
He then said Lonzo deserved credit for Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram and Julius Randle all having career years in 2017-18.

LINK


out of all the ignorant things this man says....I find things like this the most concerning....he keeps mentioning guys in the locker room, especially insinuating their success was only because of his son....it is going to be a problem sooner than later.


Same nugget as when he was on the Herd.
We need to trade Lonzo now!

Lonzo + Deng for Josh Jackson + #1 + $5M
Who says no?


Phoenix LoL

I rather just take the #1 for Zo and Deng and have a nice day


Are you sure?
I mean, Lonzo can't shoot. He had a hurt knee. His dad is horrible.
Can't we unload him for the #1 pick, and last year's #4, all while unloading deng?

Not enough, I say.


Ok final offer!

Lonzo + Deng for #1 pick, Josh Jackson, 2020 #1 and 2019 #2 + $5M.


the Suns would not even consider moving Jackson straight up for Ball....much less include any picks.

McDonough isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, is he?
_________________
Banana Head
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
LBJ23
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 23 Jun 2015
Posts: 4304

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:44 am    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
epak wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
epak wrote:
YSong wrote:
epak wrote:
adkindo wrote:
his dad dropped this nugget again today on the radio....

Quote:
He then said Lonzo deserved credit for Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram and Julius Randle all having career years in 2017-18.

LINK


out of all the ignorant things this man says....I find things like this the most concerning....he keeps mentioning guys in the locker room, especially insinuating their success was only because of his son....it is going to be a problem sooner than later.


Same nugget as when he was on the Herd.
We need to trade Lonzo now!

Lonzo + Deng for Josh Jackson + #1 + $5M
Who says no?


Phoenix LoL

I rather just take the #1 for Zo and Deng and have a nice day


Are you sure?
I mean, Lonzo can't shoot. He had a hurt knee. His dad is horrible.
Can't we unload him for the #1 pick, and last year's #4, all while unloading deng?

Not enough, I say.


Ok final offer!

Lonzo + Deng for #1 pick, Josh Jackson, 2020 #1 and 2019 #2 + $5M.


the Suns would not even consider moving Jackson straight up for Ball....much less include any picks.


Yes they would. Lonzo, Booker, Ayton is hell of a core.
_________________
Previously PG13
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
epak
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 30 Aug 2005
Posts: 23079

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:44 am    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
epak wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
epak wrote:
YSong wrote:
epak wrote:
adkindo wrote:
his dad dropped this nugget again today on the radio....

Quote:
He then said Lonzo deserved credit for Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram and Julius Randle all having career years in 2017-18.

LINK


out of all the ignorant things this man says....I find things like this the most concerning....he keeps mentioning guys in the locker room, especially insinuating their success was only because of his son....it is going to be a problem sooner than later.


Same nugget as when he was on the Herd.
We need to trade Lonzo now!

Lonzo + Deng for Josh Jackson + #1 + $5M
Who says no?


Phoenix LoL

I rather just take the #1 for Zo and Deng and have a nice day


Are you sure?
I mean, Lonzo can't shoot. He had a hurt knee. His dad is horrible.
Can't we unload him for the #1 pick, and last year's #4, all while unloading deng?

Not enough, I say.


Ok final offer!

Lonzo + Deng for #1 pick, Josh Jackson, 2020 #1 and 2019 #2 + $5M.


the Suns would not even consider moving Jackson straight up for Ball....much less include any picks.


Are you sure?
Even though Kuzma may be the story, Lonzo is the headline!
BVH and I think the Lakers aren't getting enough.
_________________
👊 Los Angeles Lakers 👊
One more trade to get rid of the old regime's players!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
yinoma2001
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 19 Jun 2010
Posts: 93571
Location: Do you believe in Magic?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:45 am    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
epak wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
epak wrote:
YSong wrote:
epak wrote:
adkindo wrote:
his dad dropped this nugget again today on the radio....

Quote:
He then said Lonzo deserved credit for Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram and Julius Randle all having career years in 2017-18.

LINK


out of all the ignorant things this man says....I find things like this the most concerning....he keeps mentioning guys in the locker room, especially insinuating their success was only because of his son....it is going to be a problem sooner than later.


Same nugget as when he was on the Herd.
We need to trade Lonzo now!

Lonzo + Deng for Josh Jackson + #1 + $5M
Who says no?


Phoenix LoL

I rather just take the #1 for Zo and Deng and have a nice day


Are you sure?
I mean, Lonzo can't shoot. He had a hurt knee. His dad is horrible.
Can't we unload him for the #1 pick, and last year's #4, all while unloading deng?

Not enough, I say.


Ok final offer!

Lonzo + Deng for #1 pick, Josh Jackson, 2020 #1 and 2019 #2 + $5M.


the Suns would not even consider moving Jackson straight up for Ball....much less include any picks.


We know this how?

What if they would like a Ball/Booker backcourt?

But why would the Lakers want Jackson?

Why are we even talking about this?
_________________
We have LBJ.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
adkindo
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 16 Jun 2005
Posts: 26084
Location: Dirty South

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:47 am    Post subject:

PG13 wrote:
Yes they would. Lonzo, Booker, Ayton is hell of a core.


ok, but if I had a liquid million dollars to wager on it....I would put every dime on the fact they would not move Jackson for Ball.
_________________
"To arrive at a contradiction is to confess an error in one's thinking; to maintain a contradiction is to abdicate one's mind and to evict oneself from the realm of reality." Ayn Rand
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
adkindo
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 16 Jun 2005
Posts: 26084
Location: Dirty South

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:48 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
Why are we even talking about this?


your asking the wrong LG user....did not bring up the topic
_________________
"To arrive at a contradiction is to confess an error in one's thinking; to maintain a contradiction is to abdicate one's mind and to evict oneself from the realm of reality." Ayn Rand
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
epak
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 30 Aug 2005
Posts: 23079

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:52 am    Post subject:

/sarcasm
_________________
👊 Los Angeles Lakers 👊
One more trade to get rid of the old regime's players!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Car54
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 10850

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:06 am    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
his dad dropped this nugget again today on the radio....

Quote:
He then said Lonzo deserved credit for Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram and Julius Randle all having career years in 2017-18.

LINK


out of all the ignorant things this man says....I find things like this the most concerning....he keeps mentioning guys in the locker room, especially insinuating their success was only because of his son....it is going to be a problem sooner than later.


I hate him and sooner or later Lonzo is gonna have to get some balls. He also said Lonzo and Kyle ain’t cool. Lavar needs a punch to the face.
_________________
Coach: Luuuuuuuuuuuke
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
pokoy
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 12 Apr 2001
Posts: 14097

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:09 am    Post subject:

Practice wrote:
pokoy wrote:
(Posted in the BI thread, bringing over here)

MJST wrote:
Noticably Bigger Brandon Ingram continuing to work this off-season


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cY7lKoX-VE


Notice Ingram, who improved his shooting greatly after his rookie season, still working on fundamental shooting. That's like 4th/5th grade shooting clinic stuff. Obviously it works and it's useful to break someone's shot down to the core to improve it.

I really hope Lonzo is doing something similar. I don't care if he's "always" shot the way he has. Laker management needs to stop saying things like "it's worked for him all his life, no need to change his form." Well, he was terrible at shooting last season, so there is some need to change something. It doesn't need to be a complete overhaul (though maybe it should; I mean Kobe did and it worked), but there just needs to be some focus on mechanics and staying consistent.

He can't continue to shoot three pointers one way and free throws another. I mean his release points for both are different! That right there is already a bad sign.

During the exit interviews they talked about things like working on consistency. He may not changing his form, but he’s working on making it go in more.


He needs to fix his release point consistency the most, I think. The free throw form vs in-game form is the biggest discrepancy i can see. On his free throws it looks like he's actually shooting more "correctly," meaning more to the center of his body not the sling shot fling from the left side of his head. But his in-game shots are usually that weirder left-side-of-head release flings, which yeah he makes, but he's shown he's streaky - which isn't surprising since he really has no consistent release point.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Reply with quote
BigGameHames
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 24 May 2015
Posts: 4981

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:12 am    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
PG13 wrote:
Yes they would. Lonzo, Booker, Ayton is hell of a core.


ok, but if I had a liquid million dollars to wager on it....I would put every dime on the fact they would not move Jackson for Ball.




Shake on it?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
kikanga
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 15 Sep 2012
Posts: 17455
Location: La La Land

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:13 am    Post subject:

Lavar just talks so nobody focuses on Lonzo's historically awful shooting.
Lavar's controlling the narrative.

Meanwhile, the only news I want to hear from that camp is on Lonzo's shot.
Is he tweaking it? Is he overhauling it?
Is he keeping it the complete same and saying his struggles were mental?
Is he not focusing on it at all, and trying to pursue a Rondo-like sort of game next season?
_________________
"The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt" - Bertrand Russell


Last edited by kikanga on Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:13 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
BigGameHames
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 24 May 2015
Posts: 4981

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:13 am    Post subject:

epak wrote:
adkindo wrote:
epak wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
epak wrote:
YSong wrote:
epak wrote:
adkindo wrote:
his dad dropped this nugget again today on the radio....

Quote:
He then said Lonzo deserved credit for Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram and Julius Randle all having career years in 2017-18.

LINK


out of all the ignorant things this man says....I find things like this the most concerning....he keeps mentioning guys in the locker room, especially insinuating their success was only because of his son....it is going to be a problem sooner than later.


Same nugget as when he was on the Herd.
We need to trade Lonzo now!

Lonzo + Deng for Josh Jackson + #1 + $5M
Who says no?


Phoenix LoL

I rather just take the #1 for Zo and Deng and have a nice day


Are you sure?
I mean, Lonzo can't shoot. He had a hurt knee. His dad is horrible.
Can't we unload him for the #1 pick, and last year's #4, all while unloading deng?

Not enough, I say.


Ok final offer!

Lonzo + Deng for #1 pick, Josh Jackson, 2020 #1 and 2019 #2 + $5M.


the Suns would not even consider moving Jackson straight up for Ball....much less include any picks.


Are you sure?
Even though Kuzma may be the story, Lonzo is the headline!
BVH and I think the Lakers aren't getting enough.


Jackson, Booker, Ayton or we hang up.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
BigGameHames
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 24 May 2015
Posts: 4981

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:17 am    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
Lavar just talks so nobody focuses on Lonzo's historically awful shooting.
Lavar's controlling the narrative.

Meanwhile, the only news I want to hear from that camp is on Lonzo's shot.
Is he tweaking it? Is he overhauling it?
Is he keeping it the complete same and saying his struggles were mental?
Is he not focusing on it at all, and trying to pursue a Rondo-like sort of game next season?


Then why was he talking when he was shooting 40+% in HS and college?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
adkindo
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 16 Jun 2005
Posts: 26084
Location: Dirty South

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:24 am    Post subject:

BigGameHames wrote:
adkindo wrote:
PG13 wrote:
Yes they would. Lonzo, Booker, Ayton is hell of a core.


ok, but if I had a liquid million dollars to wager on it....I would put every dime on the fact they would not move Jackson for Ball.




Shake on it?


oh man....gives me a nice chill to just think about taking your money.
_________________
"To arrive at a contradiction is to confess an error in one's thinking; to maintain a contradiction is to abdicate one's mind and to evict oneself from the realm of reality." Ayn Rand
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
BigGameHames
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 24 May 2015
Posts: 4981

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:26 am    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
adkindo wrote:
PG13 wrote:
Yes they would. Lonzo, Booker, Ayton is hell of a core.


ok, but if I had a liquid million dollars to wager on it....I would put every dime on the fact they would not move Jackson for Ball.




Shake on it?


oh man....gives me a nice chill to just think about taking your money.


Any FO that declines Ball for Jackson straight up needs to be fired. It is the suns though
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
adkindo
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 16 Jun 2005
Posts: 26084
Location: Dirty South

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:28 am    Post subject:

BigGameHames wrote:
kikanga wrote:
Lavar just talks so nobody focuses on Lonzo's historically awful shooting.
Lavar's controlling the narrative.

Meanwhile, the only news I want to hear from that camp is on Lonzo's shot.
Is he tweaking it? Is he overhauling it?
Is he keeping it the complete same and saying his struggles were mental?
Is he not focusing on it at all, and trying to pursue a Rondo-like sort of game next season?


Then why was he talking when he was shooting 40+% in HS and college?


'We're talking about high school! We're talking about high school! We ain't talking about the NBA.'
_________________
"To arrive at a contradiction is to confess an error in one's thinking; to maintain a contradiction is to abdicate one's mind and to evict oneself from the realm of reality." Ayn Rand
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
yinoma2001
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 19 Jun 2010
Posts: 93571
Location: Do you believe in Magic?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:28 am    Post subject:

BigGameHames wrote:
adkindo wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
adkindo wrote:
PG13 wrote:
Yes they would. Lonzo, Booker, Ayton is hell of a core.


ok, but if I had a liquid million dollars to wager on it....I would put every dime on the fact they would not move Jackson for Ball.




Shake on it?


oh man....gives me a nice chill to just think about taking your money.


Any FO that declines Ball for Jackson straight up needs to be fired. It is the suns though


Adkindo is Lonzo AND Jackson's #1 fan.
_________________
We have LBJ.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
adkindo
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 16 Jun 2005
Posts: 26084
Location: Dirty South

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:30 am    Post subject:

BigGameHames wrote:
adkindo wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
adkindo wrote:
PG13 wrote:
Yes they would. Lonzo, Booker, Ayton is hell of a core.


ok, but if I had a liquid million dollars to wager on it....I would put every dime on the fact they would not move Jackson for Ball.




Shake on it?


oh man....gives me a nice chill to just think about taking your money.


Any FO that declines Ball for Jackson straight up needs to be fired. It is the suns though


don't worry, I would break you off a Benji so you could still afford your internet bill which will allow you to continue being Ball's #1 internet fanboy.
_________________
"To arrive at a contradiction is to confess an error in one's thinking; to maintain a contradiction is to abdicate one's mind and to evict oneself from the realm of reality." Ayn Rand
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
BigGameHames
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 24 May 2015
Posts: 4981

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:59 am    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
adkindo wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
adkindo wrote:
PG13 wrote:
Yes they would. Lonzo, Booker, Ayton is hell of a core.


ok, but if I had a liquid million dollars to wager on it....I would put every dime on the fact they would not move Jackson for Ball.




Shake on it?


oh man....gives me a nice chill to just think about taking your money.


Any FO that declines Ball for Jackson straight up needs to be fired. It is the suns though


don't worry, I would break you off a Benji so you could still afford your internet bill which will allow you to continue being Ball's #1 internet fanboy.


All this time I didn’t even realize I was in the top 10

I’m honored.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
BigGameHames
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 24 May 2015
Posts: 4981

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:00 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
adkindo wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
adkindo wrote:
PG13 wrote:
Yes they would. Lonzo, Booker, Ayton is hell of a core.


ok, but if I had a liquid million dollars to wager on it....I would put every dime on the fact they would not move Jackson for Ball.




Shake on it?


oh man....gives me a nice chill to just think about taking your money.


Any FO that declines Ball for Jackson straight up needs to be fired. It is the suns though


Adkindo is Lonzo AND Jackson's #1 fan.


Confirmation bias never ceases to amaze me.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Endless3D
Starting Rotation
Starting Rotation


Joined: 03 Mar 2018
Posts: 794

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:01 pm    Post subject:

This is pretty random but I posted this on reddit.

I understand that not being able to score at all is a big deal and it totally changes the direction of Lonzo's career but some people refuse to recognize how good he is a other things outside of scoring.

The Lakers were 12th in the league as a defensive team, Lonzo was second in the team in blocks after Brook Lopez, and first in steals. He's third in defensive ratings after Nance who got traded and Bogut who played just 5 minutes. He's top 3 in both defensive win shares and DBPM. He was in the western conference, played the point guard position and was arguably the best defender on a good defensive team as a 20 year old rookie.

The eye test backs that up as well. He averaged 7.2 assists per game, and only had 2.6 turnovers but the impressive part is that he's only 10th on the team in usage. His game is just different then what we're accustomed so people underrate how effective he really was for the Lakers.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
BynumForThree
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 27 Feb 2016
Posts: 1053

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:54 pm    Post subject:

People actually think Ball is worth the #1 pick?


_________________
If Brandon Knight were to come out, I would take him number 1 in the draft. - Magic Johnson Mar 27, 2011

For all of you out there questioning Jimmer Fredette of BYU, he is the real deal. - Magic Johnson Mar 20, 2011
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Aeneas Hunter
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 20981

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:56 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
PG13 wrote:
Yes they would. Lonzo, Booker, Ayton is hell of a core.


ok, but if I had a liquid million dollars to wager on it....I would put every dime on the fact they would not move Jackson for Ball.


I think you’re right, but we’ll never know. Even if they assess Ball as the better prospect (which may or may not be the case), a lot of teams would discount him because of his dad. The Lakers likely have a higher tolerance for that sort of thing than pretty much any other team.

Setting that aside, you’re talking about potential versus potential. Ball was the better overall player as a rookie, but teams will assess young players by what they think they will be in a couple years.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Endless3D
Starting Rotation
Starting Rotation


Joined: 03 Mar 2018
Posts: 794

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:06 pm    Post subject:

Quote:
cyberx said: ↑
I keep hearing more and more about Lillard to LA. I still see it at less than 50% than happening, but im hearing more BUZZ....

Deng, Lonzo, Kuzma, 1st, 2nd, Cash.

Possibly a Zubac?


http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/2-0-cyberex-paging-cyberex.272647/page-68#post-11825758
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    LakersGround.net Forum Index -> LA Lakers Lounge All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 1051, 1052, 1053 ... 1199, 1200, 1201  Next
Page 1052 of 1201
Jump to:  

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum






Graphics by uberzev
© 1995-2018 LakersGround.net. All Rights Reserved. Privacy Policy. Terms of Use.
LakersGround is an unofficial news source serving the fan community since 1995.
We are in no way associated with the Los Angeles Lakers or the National Basketball Association.


Powered by phpBB