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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:49 pm    Post subject:

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It makes no sense that Pelinka said the team can't talk about his knee injury. Why the hell not? Sounds very suspicious


HIPPA rules


Wrong. Ramona said Lonzo's camp hasn't told the Lakers not to talk about it.


That is not how HIPPA works.


Agreed.
Just because someone doesn't mind... Doesn't mean you can disclose their medical info.
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Just a lil update if you wanna call it that Zo posted in his instagram story of him bench pressing 250 3x. Doesn't seem like a big thing but last year it seemed like he could barley do pushups.
Lol, so dude's definitely putting in the work in the gym at least


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Fracture wrote:
shortodom wrote:
Just a lil update if you wanna call it that Zo posted in his instagram story of him bench pressing 250 3x. Doesn't seem like a big thing but last year it seemed like he could barley do pushups.
Lol, so dude's definitely putting in the work in the gym at least


https://streamable.com/szofz


Is it ok to bend your pack like that?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:34 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
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shortodom wrote:
Just a lil update if you wanna call it that Zo posted in his instagram story of him bench pressing 250 3x. Doesn't seem like a big thing but last year it seemed like he could barley do pushups.
Lol, so dude's definitely putting in the work in the gym at least


https://streamable.com/szofz


Is it ok to bend your pack like that?


I think you're supposed to have an arch in your back. I don't think your butt is supposed to come off the bench but I'm no expert
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:40 pm    Post subject:

Fracture wrote:
epak wrote:
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shortodom wrote:
Just a lil update if you wanna call it that Zo posted in his instagram story of him bench pressing 250 3x. Doesn't seem like a big thing but last year it seemed like he could barley do pushups.
Lol, so dude's definitely putting in the work in the gym at least


https://streamable.com/szofz


Is it ok to bend your pack like that?


I think you're supposed to have an arch in your back. I don't think your butt is supposed to come off the bench but I'm no expert


Yea I think you’re correct
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Ball camp ain’t stupid, they see signs...so whatever ways they can prolong the situation and create doubt to other teams keeps Lonzo in town. Also, BBB is predicated on Lonzo succeeding in LA. If Lonzo is shipped to another city...BBB fades away. Magic is a shark, don’t let the smiles fool you. He’s probably bothered that he passed on Tatum and Mitchell...dude hates to lose...especially to a Celtic. Father Ball knows that and is probably reading the obvious tea leaves...

1). Magic doesn’t refer to Ball as the face of the franchise;
2). Ball camp see kemba in their rear view window;
3). Pt guard position is now open — announced by Walton and Pelinka;
4). Ball is the Lakers 3rd best young player...and Hart is gaining fast;
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:55 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
Fracture wrote:
shortodom wrote:
Just a lil update if you wanna call it that Zo posted in his instagram story of him bench pressing 250 3x. Doesn't seem like a big thing but last year it seemed like he could barley do pushups.
Lol, so dude's definitely putting in the work in the gym at least


https://streamable.com/szofz


Is it ok to bend your pack like that?


If your glutes stay on the bench and you are using your legs and posterior chain to engage leg drive, yes it is proper form. Obviously there are tons of little things but that is the gist of it.
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OC Lakerfan wrote:
epak wrote:
Fracture wrote:
shortodom wrote:
Just a lil update if you wanna call it that Zo posted in his instagram story of him bench pressing 250 3x. Doesn't seem like a big thing but last year it seemed like he could barley do pushups.
Lol, so dude's definitely putting in the work in the gym at least


https://streamable.com/szofz


Is it ok to bend your pack like that?


If your glutes stay on the bench and you are using your legs and posterior chain to engage leg drive, yes it is proper form. Obviously there are tons of little things but that is the gist of it.


Ah. Thanks guys (previous answers as well)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:59 pm    Post subject:

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Ball camp ain’t stupid, they see signs...so whatever ways they can prolong the situation and create doubt to other teams keeps Lonzo in town. Also, BBB is predicated on Lonzo succeeding in LA. If Lonzo is shipped to another city...BBB fades away. Magic is a shark, don’t let the smiles fool you. He’s probably bothered that he passed on Tatum and Mitchell...dude hates to lose...especially to a Celtic. Father Ball knows that and is probably reading the obvious tea leaves...

1). Magic doesn’t refer to Ball as the face of the franchise;
2). Ball camp see kemba in their rear view window;
3). Pt guard position is now open — announced by Walton and Pelinka;
4). Ball is the Lakers 3rd best young player...and Hart is gaining fast;


1) Yea... they just signed LeBron
2) True... cause Zo passed him
3) As well as every other position
4) Na he’s the best but Hart is gaining on all of them.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:22 pm    Post subject:

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Personally, I'm more concerned with the fact that the Lakers season ended 3 months ago.
If Lonzo needed surgery, they should have done it already.
3 months and they're STILL deciding if he needs surgery or not? A meniscus surgery is somewhat minor, but it can still take 6-10 weeks to fully recover from. The more time wasted, the less time he has to recover and start rebuilding strength.

The fact that this is still ongoing seems to point to more FUBAR's from Lavar



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:35 pm    Post subject:

I think both Rondo and Ball get lots of playing time I could care less who starts. It's about which (or both) help us win.

Rondos long game now is to coach.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:38 pm    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
P.K. wrote:
Personally, I'm more concerned with the fact that the Lakers season ended 3 months ago.
If Lonzo needed surgery, they should have done it already.
3 months and they're STILL deciding if he needs surgery or not? A meniscus surgery is somewhat minor, but it can still take 6-10 weeks to fully recover from. The more time wasted, the less time he has to recover and start rebuilding strength.

The fact that this is still ongoing seems to point to more FUBAR's from Lavar




We really don't know if he had it or not. Mid June was when he got back on the court, so he could have had it in April and just started some on court work in June. PRP injections don't keep you off the court more than a month. Bynum got one once during the all star break and was back in a week. Westboro got one at the beginning of camp last season and was back within a week or 2.

We don't know what happened, just a bunch of people here making stuff up
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:23 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
Fracture wrote:
shortodom wrote:
Just a lil update if you wanna call it that Zo posted in his instagram story of him bench pressing 250 3x. Doesn't seem like a big thing but last year it seemed like he could barley do pushups.
Lol, so dude's definitely putting in the work in the gym at least


https://streamable.com/szofz


Is it ok to bend your pack like that?



His lower back coming up is fine as he's he’s retracting his scapula properly, which you do and tighten your core, his elbows are proper and his base is right.

my worry is him raising his butt. You do that usually primarily when you can't lift it any other way, his spotter should be aware of this and be helping the lift, because a good lift usually doesn't involve you lifting your butt, scapula and core is fine. But your butt shouldn't lift unless you're struggling to do the lift, and if you are, your spotter is supposed to have his arms on the weight, helping you lift, otherwise you can eventually screw up your back.

You'd assume Gunnar should know this....
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:42 pm    Post subject:

BigGameHames wrote:
captain jack wrote:
Ball camp ain’t stupid, they see signs...so whatever ways they can prolong the situation and create doubt to other teams keeps Lonzo in town. Also, BBB is predicated on Lonzo succeeding in LA. If Lonzo is shipped to another city...BBB fades away. Magic is a shark, don’t let the smiles fool you. He’s probably bothered that he passed on Tatum and Mitchell...dude hates to lose...especially to a Celtic. Father Ball knows that and is probably reading the obvious tea leaves...

1). Magic doesn’t refer to Ball as the face of the franchise;
2). Ball camp see kemba in their rear view window;
3). Pt guard position is now open — announced by Walton and Pelinka;
4). Ball is the Lakers 3rd best young player...and Hart is gaining fast;


1) Yea... they just signed LeBron
2) True... cause Zo passed him
3) As well as every other position
4) Na he’s the best but Hart is gaining on all of them.


You must be family. I can’t win this argument. Since u family, you stay with him in Marina Del Rey? All of y’all that pass through the lobby need to take turns passing the ball to him to get shots up. Btw...passed kemba? You crazy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:28 pm    Post subject:

LBJ23 wrote:
kikanga wrote:
P.K. wrote:
Personally, I'm more concerned with the fact that the Lakers season ended 3 months ago.
If Lonzo needed surgery, they should have done it already.
3 months and they're STILL deciding if he needs surgery or not? A meniscus surgery is somewhat minor, but it can still take 6-10 weeks to fully recover from. The more time wasted, the less time he has to recover and start rebuilding strength.

The fact that this is still ongoing seems to point to more FUBAR's from Lavar




We really don't know if he had it or not. Mid June was when he got back on the court, so he could have had it in April and just started some on court work in June. PRP injections don't keep you off the court more than a month. Bynum got one once during the all star break and was back in a week. Westboro got one at the beginning of camp last season and was back within a week or 2.

We don't know what happened, just a bunch of people here making stuff up

Pelinka, in his interview just a few days ago, said Lonzo "MAY" have to have surgery on it
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:48 pm    Post subject:

P.K. wrote:
LBJ23 wrote:
kikanga wrote:
P.K. wrote:
Personally, I'm more concerned with the fact that the Lakers season ended 3 months ago.
If Lonzo needed surgery, they should have done it already.
3 months and they're STILL deciding if he needs surgery or not? A meniscus surgery is somewhat minor, but it can still take 6-10 weeks to fully recover from. The more time wasted, the less time he has to recover and start rebuilding strength.

The fact that this is still ongoing seems to point to more FUBAR's from Lavar




We really don't know if he had it or not. Mid June was when he got back on the court, so he could have had it in April and just started some on court work in June. PRP injections don't keep you off the court more than a month. Bynum got one once during the all star break and was back in a week. Westboro got one at the beginning of camp last season and was back within a week or 2.

We don't know what happened, just a bunch of people here making stuff up

Pelinka, in his interview just a few days ago, said Lonzo "MAY" have to have surgery on it


No he didn't. He said ask his team about injury questions.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:53 pm    Post subject:

LBJ23 wrote:
P.K. wrote:
LBJ23 wrote:
kikanga wrote:
P.K. wrote:
Personally, I'm more concerned with the fact that the Lakers season ended 3 months ago.
If Lonzo needed surgery, they should have done it already.
3 months and they're STILL deciding if he needs surgery or not? A meniscus surgery is somewhat minor, but it can still take 6-10 weeks to fully recover from. The more time wasted, the less time he has to recover and start rebuilding strength.

The fact that this is still ongoing seems to point to more FUBAR's from Lavar




We really don't know if he had it or not. Mid June was when he got back on the court, so he could have had it in April and just started some on court work in June. PRP injections don't keep you off the court more than a month. Bynum got one once during the all star break and was back in a week. Westboro got one at the beginning of camp last season and was back within a week or 2.

We don't know what happened, just a bunch of people here making stuff up

Pelinka, in his interview just a few days ago, said Lonzo "MAY" have to have surgery on it


No he didn't. He said ask his team about injury questions.


Haven't heard Rob say he needed surgery either.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:56 pm    Post subject:

Fracture wrote:
shortodom wrote:
Just a lil update if you wanna call it that Zo posted in his instagram story of him bench pressing 250 3x. Doesn't seem like a big thing but last year it seemed like he could barley do pushups.
Lol, so dude's definitely putting in the work in the gym at least


https://streamable.com/szofz


Pretty cool - I just hope he's spending just as much time on his lower body.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:10 pm    Post subject:

captain jack wrote:
Ball camp ain’t stupid, they see signs...so whatever ways they can prolong the situation and create doubt to other teams keeps Lonzo in town. Also, BBB is predicated on Lonzo succeeding in LA. If Lonzo is shipped to another city...BBB fades away. Magic is a shark, don’t let the smiles fool you. He’s probably bothered that he passed on Tatum and Mitchell...dude hates to lose...especially to a Celtic. Father Ball knows that and is probably reading the obvious tea leaves...

1). Magic doesn’t refer to Ball as the face of the franchise;
2). Ball camp see kemba in their rear view window;
3). Pt guard position is now open — announced by Walton and Pelinka;
4). Ball is the Lakers 3rd best young player...and Hart is gaining fast;

I don't get why people keep saying this.

First of all, nobody expected Mitchell to play how he did. Second, we drafted Lonzo to replace Dlo because we already had Ingram, which reduced the need to draft JJ or Tatum. There's no reason to be salty about Tatum being great because he had a better season than Lonzo. For all we know Tatum could end up busting and Lonzo could have the better career. Nobody is getting buyers remorse this early.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:11 pm    Post subject:

Wasn't that Lonzo injury story around the draft confirmed to be parroting old information?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:18 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
OC Lakerfan wrote:
epak wrote:
Fracture wrote:
shortodom wrote:
Just a lil update if you wanna call it that Zo posted in his instagram story of him bench pressing 250 3x. Doesn't seem like a big thing but last year it seemed like he could barley do pushups.
Lol, so dude's definitely putting in the work in the gym at least


https://streamable.com/szofz


Is it ok to bend your pack like that?


If your glutes stay on the bench and you are using your legs and posterior chain to engage leg drive, yes it is proper form. Obviously there are tons of little things but that is the gist of it.


Ah. Thanks guys (previous answers as well)


Had a touch of help from the spotter. Amazing when the bar is going up that slow how much difference just a finger touch makes in not having it come back down on you. Not sure what the rest of his routine is but I hope three reps near max is a rare thing for his shoulders' sake.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:21 pm    Post subject:

leor_77 wrote:
Fracture wrote:
shortodom wrote:
Just a lil update if you wanna call it that Zo posted in his instagram story of him bench pressing 250 3x. Doesn't seem like a big thing but last year it seemed like he could barley do pushups.
Lol, so dude's definitely putting in the work in the gym at least


https://streamable.com/szofz


Pretty cool - I just hope he's spending just as much time on his lower body.


Same here - that's where he needs it most.
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h2omike wrote:
I think both Rondo and Ball get lots of playing time I could care less who starts. It's about which (or both) help us win.

Rondos long game now is to coach.


That's how I see it.
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LBJ23 wrote:
P.K. wrote:
LBJ23 wrote:
kikanga wrote:
P.K. wrote:
Personally, I'm more concerned with the fact that the Lakers season ended 3 months ago.
If Lonzo needed surgery, they should have done it already.
3 months and they're STILL deciding if he needs surgery or not? A meniscus surgery is somewhat minor, but it can still take 6-10 weeks to fully recover from. The more time wasted, the less time he has to recover and start rebuilding strength.

The fact that this is still ongoing seems to point to more FUBAR's from Lavar




We really don't know if he had it or not. Mid June was when he got back on the court, so he could have had it in April and just started some on court work in June. PRP injections don't keep you off the court more than a month. Bynum got one once during the all star break and was back in a week. Westboro got one at the beginning of camp last season and was back within a week or 2.

We don't know what happened, just a bunch of people here making stuff up

Pelinka, in his interview just a few days ago, said Lonzo "MAY" have to have surgery on it


No he didn't. He said ask his team about injury questions.

LakersNation 07/12/2018

"Lakers Uncertain If Lonzo Ball Will Require Knee Surgery But Expectation Remains He Will Be Healthy For Training Camp"
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:51 pm    Post subject:

P.K. wrote:
LBJ23 wrote:
P.K. wrote:
LBJ23 wrote:
kikanga wrote:
P.K. wrote:
Personally, I'm more concerned with the fact that the Lakers season ended 3 months ago.
If Lonzo needed surgery, they should have done it already.
3 months and they're STILL deciding if he needs surgery or not? A meniscus surgery is somewhat minor, but it can still take 6-10 weeks to fully recover from. The more time wasted, the less time he has to recover and start rebuilding strength.

The fact that this is still ongoing seems to point to more FUBAR's from Lavar




We really don't know if he had it or not. Mid June was when he got back on the court, so he could have had it in April and just started some on court work in June. PRP injections don't keep you off the court more than a month. Bynum got one once during the all star break and was back in a week. Westboro got one at the beginning of camp last season and was back within a week or 2.

We don't know what happened, just a bunch of people here making stuff up

Pelinka, in his interview just a few days ago, said Lonzo "MAY" have to have surgery on it


No he didn't. He said ask his team about injury questions.

LakersNation 07/12/2018

"Lakers Uncertain If Lonzo Ball Will Require Knee Surgery But Expectation Remains He Will Be Healthy For Training Camp"


So, Rob didn't say that and Lakers nation went off Woj and Ramona reports. Anything credible?
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