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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:10 pm    Post subject:

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stupid to be so reckless with his minutes


His MPG isn't more than what a ton of other guys are getting. He's 6th in mpg for Vegas Summer League. He's not playing too many minutes, and it'll help get him into game shape. He needs reps.


He was just out of practice for a week.. And they're playing him for quarters at a time.. And it seems to have hobbled him more than helped his stamina, so


Hobbled? He got a cramp and has had some soreness. He's fine. And he needs to get used to playing NBA minutes.


Ya but he doesn't need to get thrown into the fire with minutes like that - after a week off of practice.......After having a groin issue.. First games in 3 months..
Hopefully it's just a cramp.


Nobody in Summer League has played for 3 months. The "fire" he has been thrown into is playing less minutes than Lauri Markannen. He's really not playing an especially large amount of minutes.


6th most in the tourney is a lot. After not practicing for a week. And at our pace of play.


The great Aaron Rogers once said "RELAX!"


If it's just a cramp it's fine. But calfs are tricky, like Van Gundy said


After we get these summer league rings he can get all the massages he wants, Vegas style.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:12 pm    Post subject:

What a player we got on our hands. I said i couldnt believe our luck when the celtics passed on lonzo, and i feel even more confident now that we got the generational talent in this draft.

The hate for the Lakers is bordering on overflow right now. Saw a guy on realgm general board (sub reddit level troll cave) just say Lonzo will be a bust if he doesnt shoot 45% from 3 on high volume. Such sweet sweet hate, just shows We're back on the path to relevance
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:13 pm    Post subject:

Is Lonzo like the real-life Like Mike? Whomever shoes he wears, he inherits the skills
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:16 pm    Post subject:

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it's unfortunate that we didn't get to see how Ingram would fit into a Lonzo-centric offense.


We kinda sort did in the 1st game. 1st game nerves aside from Zo, Ingram was dominate from the first 10 seconds on.

Ingram gives us a go-to scorer to take pressure off Zo needing to create for others every single time. While giving Ingram better open looks in turn.
we saw Ingram working as a sovereign entity in the first game. Most of the time he was working as an iso scorer, because Lonzo hadn't yet taken over the offense. With Lonzo running the show, Ingram is going to have to shoot open threes at a high enough clip to earn the defense's respect. If he can do that, I think he'll feast on attacking closeouts, which was arguably his greatest strength last year. I agree that Ingram will also be a safety valve, go-to type scorer as well. But I'm curious to see what sort of looks Lonzo can create for Ingram.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:18 pm    Post subject:

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What a player we got on our hands. I said i couldnt believe our luck when the celtics passed on lonzo, and i feel even more confident now that we got the generational talent in this draft.

The hate for the Lakers is bordering on overflow right now. Saw a guy on realgm general board (sub reddit level troll cave) just say Lonzo will be a bust if he doesnt shoot 45% from 3 on high volume. Such sweet sweet hate, just shows We're back on the path to relevance


such a hot trolling take by the haters.

I'm excited that he isn't having any issues getting to the basket when it's there and he is not struggling to get his shot off. Those are the 2 areas that concerned me coming out of UCLA. Kid is legit, his 3pt shot will come; the key imo was a question of could he get it off and he has with no issue.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:21 pm    Post subject:

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it's unfortunate that we didn't get to see how Ingram would fit into a Lonzo-centric offense.


We kinda sort did in the 1st game. 1st game nerves aside from Zo, Ingram was dominate from the first 10 seconds on.

Ingram gives us a go-to scorer to take pressure off Zo needing to create for others every single time. While giving Ingram better open looks in turn.
we saw Ingram working as a sovereign entity in the first game. Most of the time he was working as an iso scorer, because Lonzo hadn't yet taken over the offense. With Lonzo running the show, Ingram is going to have to shoot open threes at a high enough clip to earn the defense's respect. If he can do that, I think he'll feast on attacking closeouts, which was arguably his greatest strength last year. I agree that Ingram will also be a safety valve, go-to type scorer as well. But I'm curious to see what sort of looks Lonzo can create for Ingram.


Weve seen Ingram can get into the paint against anyone with his long strides and ballhandling. The absolute baseline expectation for ingram/lonzo combo is that lonzos passing gets him a step on his defender before he makes his move.

Just baseline, if his J doesnt improve one bit. Just run the floor and attack the rim, he'll get 6-8 free throws and 15 points a game just doing that and having lonzo find him. Baby Worthy
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:23 pm    Post subject:

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Can't believe I wanted to pass on Ball for Jackson. Makes me cringe just thinking about it now. No doubt in my mind this Ball is going to be a special player in this league.


Yeah me too. Thought Jackson was the safer pick...


imagine we passed on him and were watching lonzo play like this for another team. its hard to hate on the guy too, he plays the right way. remember seeing ben simmons in summer league flash a couple passes and people were in awe.. lonzo does it everytime he touches the ball


It's exactly why I was when Ben Simmons was mentioned in the same conversation in passing with Ball.

Every 1 nice pass Simmons makes, Zo makes at least 5 of those a game.


Saw a bunch of UCLA games last year. Ball is a game changer. Pretty much knew the Lakers were going to get him if they had a chance at the pick. Magic pretty much sees the mirror image of himself in Ball, which is why he is so high on him. Once you get past the noise his dad makes in the public eye, you realize Ball is a can't miss player. I can see why the 76ers and Celtics passed on him since they drafted on need rather than best player available.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:24 pm    Post subject:

So if we win tomorrow who gets the MVP?

Lonzo or Kuz
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:28 pm    Post subject:

Every 20 years a new dynasty begins.
1960 Baylor and West
1980 Magic and Kareem
2000 Kobe and Shaq
2020 Ball and Ingram
I see a pattern
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:30 pm    Post subject:

LONZO!!!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:31 pm    Post subject:

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So if we win tomorrow who gets the MVP?

Lonzo or Kuz


Lonzo could not play and he still might win
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:34 pm    Post subject:

I don't know if that has been discussed yet but you guys think there's a slim chance zo makes the Allstar game as PG in the west this year? I mean isnt it a fan vote thing anyway?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:37 pm    Post subject:

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I don't know if that has been discussed yet but you guys think there's a slim chance zo makes the Allstar game as PG in the west this year? I mean isnt it a fan vote thing anyway?


here's the thing. if he keeps doing this. its going to be hilarious to watch people turn themselves into pretzels trying not to love him. see its one thing to hate a super scorer like kobe because you want him to pass more(thats not his nature per se). vs hating a humble kid who all of his teammates love and he literally makes everyone on his team better. and plays "the right way" so to speak.

he just might sneak in that allstar game if the lakers are actually winning games and he's doing this.

there's more than enough laker fans to get him in there.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:37 pm    Post subject:

I have noticed an interesting trend with this Lonzo Ball.

Everywhere he plays, his teams get better and win more.

He has a great combination of talent, leadership and humility.

I am all in on this kid, all in 100%
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:39 pm    Post subject:

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I don't know if that has been discussed yet but you guys think there's a slim chance zo makes the Allstar game as PG in the west this year? I mean isnt it a fan vote thing anyway?


Lonzo is killing all other rookies in jersey sales, is on the most marketable team in the league with a fan base that can pencil him in the game alone. Not to mention many people know of him already.

We can break the all star game fam. The Big Baller Brand will approve.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:40 pm    Post subject:

Guys/Gals. The man dropped 10 dimes with zero turnovers and the game wasnt over yet.

http://www.nba.com/games/20170716/LALDAL#/boxscore
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:42 pm    Post subject:

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I don't know if that has been discussed yet but you guys think there's a slim chance zo makes the Allstar game as PG in the west this year? I mean isnt it a fan vote thing anyway?


Not a chance. Curry, WB, Harden are all locks. I could see him leading the rookies to victory over the soph team though.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:42 pm    Post subject:

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1596542

Lonzo has his own thread on the Celtics forum

Check it out before they delete it.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:43 pm    Post subject:

Megaton wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
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stupid to be so reckless with his minutes


His MPG isn't more than what a ton of other guys are getting. He's 6th in mpg for Vegas Summer League. He's not playing too many minutes, and it'll help get him into game shape. He needs reps.


He was just out of practice for a week.. And they're playing him for quarters at a time.. And it seems to have hobbled him more than helped his stamina, so


Hobbled?

Dude he had a cramp. He's fine. Sit for a couple of hours and you're good as new.

What will most likely happen is he starts playing tomorrow but if he shows any signs of pain like that again, then he sits out. Simple.
and odds are he will show pain tomorrow.

he's in the red when it comes to his body. the reason is he hasnt played much since march. only practiced doing drills. making sure not to get injured, thats why he admitted to being super winded during the first game. then the way this thing is setup. they dont have time off really. its back to back to back now. thats too many games for most guys, let alone a rookie, that isnt built like a tank, that hasnt had much 5 v 5 up and down hoop since march.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:45 pm    Post subject:

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I don't know if that has been discussed yet but you guys think there's a slim chance zo makes the Allstar game as PG in the west this year? I mean isnt it a fan vote thing anyway?


Not a chance. Curry, WB, Harden are all locks. I could see him leading the rookies to victory over the soph team though.


More than 3 guards make the all star team yo. I don't think the East team last season had a all star Center.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:52 pm    Post subject:

ingle wrote:
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it's unfortunate that we didn't get to see how Ingram would fit into a Lonzo-centric offense.


We kinda sort did in the 1st game. 1st game nerves aside from Zo, Ingram was dominate from the first 10 seconds on.

Ingram gives us a go-to scorer to take pressure off Zo needing to create for others every single time. While giving Ingram better open looks in turn.
we saw Ingram working as a sovereign entity in the first game. Most of the time he was working as an iso scorer, because Lonzo hadn't yet taken over the offense. With Lonzo running the show, Ingram is going to have to shoot open threes at a high enough clip to earn the defense's respect. If he can do that, I think he'll feast on attacking closeouts, which was arguably his greatest strength last year. I agree that Ingram will also be a safety valve, go-to type scorer as well. But I'm curious to see what sort of looks Lonzo can create for Ingram.


Weve seen Ingram can get into the paint against anyone with his long strides and ballhandling. The absolute baseline expectation for ingram/lonzo combo is that lonzos passing gets him a step on his defender before he makes his move.

Just baseline, if his J doesnt improve one bit. Just run the floor and attack the rim, he'll get 6-8 free throws and 15 points a game just doing that and having lonzo find him. Baby Worthy
good take, I agree. That's basically the same thing Lavar said about Ingram a few weeks ago. He said that Lonzo will turn Ingram into a more lethal slasher.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:54 pm    Post subject:

Megaton wrote:
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zofro wrote:
I don't know if that has been discussed yet but you guys think there's a slim chance zo makes the Allstar game as PG in the west this year? I mean isnt it a fan vote thing anyway?


Not a chance. Curry, WB, Harden are all locks. I could see him leading the rookies to victory over the soph team though.


More than 3 guards make the all star team yo. I don't think the East team last season had a all star Center.


Butler, Klay, CP3.

Come on, the west is loaded with great guards. I think Lonzo has a legit shot at ROY, but all-star? Not as a rookie.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:55 pm    Post subject:

Ingram not playing was the best thing for Lonzo. he took over the offense and asserted himself instead of defering to Ingram
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:55 pm    Post subject:

Ziggy wrote:
Megaton wrote:
Ziggy wrote:
zofro wrote:
I don't know if that has been discussed yet but you guys think there's a slim chance zo makes the Allstar game as PG in the west this year? I mean isnt it a fan vote thing anyway?


Not a chance. Curry, WB, Harden are all locks. I could see him leading the rookies to victory over the soph team though.


More than 3 guards make the all star team yo. I don't think the East team last season had a all star Center.


Butler, Klay, CP3.

Come on, the west is loaded with great guards. I think Lonzo has a legit shot at ROY, but all-star? Not as a rookie.


Not saying he should either.

Juuuuuuuusssssssttttt saying....we got fans. And we can vote.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:55 pm    Post subject:

Ziggy wrote:
Megaton wrote:
Ziggy wrote:
zofro wrote:
I don't know if that has been discussed yet but you guys think there's a slim chance zo makes the Allstar game as PG in the west this year? I mean isnt it a fan vote thing anyway?


Not a chance. Curry, WB, Harden are all locks. I could see him leading the rookies to victory over the soph team though.


More than 3 guards make the all star team yo. I don't think the East team last season had a all star Center.


Butler, Klay, CP3.

Come on, the west is loaded with great guards. I think Lonzo has a legit shot at ROY, but all-star? Not as a rookie.


its a fan vote. don't vote against the laker brand and their fans
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