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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 6:43 pm    Post subject:

I'd definitely still go Ingram at no. 2 last last season. Porzingis gives you something to think about in the Russell draft, but I still lean towards him. He's only scratching the surface of how good he can be, imo.
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If DLo was so good, why would we draft another PG to replace him and force him to play out of his comfort zone? If we didn't get the lottery pick, would you guys have stuck with Dlo as the longterm solution at PG? And stayed mediocre like the the past 2 seasons?


We will hopefully draft BPA no matter what position they play
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 7:17 pm    Post subject:

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If DLo was so good, why would we draft another PG to replace him and force him to play out of his comfort zone? If we didn't get the lottery pick, would you guys have stuck with Dlo as the longterm solution at PG? And stayed mediocre like the the past 2 seasons?


We will hopefully draft BPA no matter what position they play


Definitely not at the three because BI is our guy going forward and then we have PG13 coming.
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 7:22 pm    Post subject:

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If DLo was so good, why would we draft another PG to replace him and force him to play out of his comfort zone? If we didn't get the lottery pick, would you guys have stuck with Dlo as the longterm solution at PG? And stayed mediocre like the the past 2 seasons?


So, you're admitting you don't know what you're talking about in this comment.


I do know we were terrible the past two seasons. While I can't place all the blame on DLo, he was our starting floor general.
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If DLo was so good, why would we draft another PG to replace him and force him to play out of his comfort zone? If we didn't get the lottery pick, would you guys have stuck with Dlo as the longterm solution at PG? And stayed mediocre like the the past 2 seasons?


Because having two young & skilled guards isn't a bad thing, nor is it an indictment against the guard we already have.
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If DLo was so good, why would we draft another PG to replace him and force him to play out of his comfort zone? If we didn't get the lottery pick, would you guys have stuck with Dlo as the longterm solution at PG? And stayed mediocre like the the past 2 seasons?


So, you're admitting you don't know what you're talking about in this comment.


I do know we were terrible the past two seasons. While I can't place all the blame on DLo, he was our starting floor general.


And our offense was better when he was on the floor.
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 7:27 pm    Post subject:

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Ingram's class was easy. No one really stands out after.

Put Ingram in DLO's class, is he #2? Not sure.

Ingram>DLO any day, so definitely!


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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 7:31 pm    Post subject:

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If DLo was so good, why would we draft another PG to replace him and force him to play out of his comfort zone? If we didn't get the lottery pick, would you guys have stuck with Dlo as the longterm solution at PG? And stayed mediocre like the the past 2 seasons?


So, you're admitting you don't know what you're talking about in this comment.


I do know we were terrible the past two seasons. While I can't place all the blame on DLo, he was our starting floor general.


Kyrie Irving played on terrible Cavs teams before Lebron came back. It wasn't all his fault, but he was their starting floor general.
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 7:33 pm    Post subject:

diando wrote:
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Ingram's class was easy. No one really stands out after.

Put Ingram in DLO's class, is he #2? Not sure.

Ingram>DLO any day, so definitely!


Not the days of the 2016-2017 season

Yes, even those days.


I love Ingram, but he wasn't even better than rookie year D'Angelo last season. It's strange how the narratives for two players drafted at the same position with the same team differ so greatly.
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 7:36 pm    Post subject:

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KBH wrote:
lakersfever714 wrote:
If DLo was so good, why would we draft another PG to replace him and force him to play out of his comfort zone? If we didn't get the lottery pick, would you guys have stuck with Dlo as the longterm solution at PG? And stayed mediocre like the the past 2 seasons?


So, you're admitting you don't know what you're talking about in this comment.


I do know we were terrible the past two seasons. While I can't place all the blame on DLo, he was our starting floor general.


Not Kobe in year 1?
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 8:08 pm    Post subject:

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If DLo was so good, why would we draft another PG to replace him and force him to play out of his comfort zone? If we didn't get the lottery pick, would you guys have stuck with Dlo as the longterm solution at PG? And stayed mediocre like the the past 2 seasons?


First, I don't remember about someone telling we are going to draft another guard.

Second, if we draft another guard it is not necessarily a replacement, but a complement.

I was never particularly sold on Russell as our main distributor, he was probably asked to run our offense because he is our best player performing this task, but I believe the best role for him is to work primarily as a scorer with someone else organizing the offense. He is still going to move the ball and get his assists, but with a scoring mindset.
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And our offense was better when he was on the floor.


To win ball games you have to score more points than your opponent, defense is as important as offense.

You can click here to see the lineups outscoring oponentes on a per 48 basis.

The results may surprise you.
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 8:18 pm    Post subject:

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I love Ingram, but he wasn't even better than rookie year D'Angelo last season. It's strange how the narratives for two players drafted at the same position with the same team differ so greatly.


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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 8:26 pm    Post subject:

lakersfever714 wrote:
KBH wrote:
lakersfever714 wrote:
If DLo was so good, why would we draft another PG to replace him and force him to play out of his comfort zone? If we didn't get the lottery pick, would you guys have stuck with Dlo as the longterm solution at PG? And stayed mediocre like the the past 2 seasons?


So, you're admitting you don't know what you're talking about in this comment.


I do know we were terrible the past two seasons. While I can't place all the blame on DLo, he was our starting floor general.


Yet somehow we finished with a better record than a team with 2nd year Durant and rookie Westbrook. These players young. We don't know how far they would take us yet, but it's too early to rush to judgement.
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 8:26 pm    Post subject:

nash wrote:
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I love Ingram, but he wasn't even better than rookie year D'Angelo last season. It's strange how the narratives for two players drafted at the same position with the same team differ so greatly.


Dunks


The dunks were nice though.
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 8:37 pm    Post subject:

Both guys are still young, but without knowing their progression (Ingram's rookie year & Dlo's rookie~sophomore years) you'd take Ingram over Russell based on his physical tools and skillset alone.
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 8:39 pm    Post subject:

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Both guys are still young, but without knowing their progression (Ingram's rookie year & Dlo's rookie~sophomore years) you'd take Ingram over Russell based on his physical tools and skillset alone.


Last time I checked they were on the same team?
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 8:42 pm    Post subject:

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Both guys are still young, but without knowing their progression (Ingram's rookie year & Dlo's rookie~sophomore years) you'd take Ingram over Russell based on his physical tools and skillset alone.


Last time I checked they were on the same team?


Above was my response to who you'd take first if they were both (hypothetically) in the same draft. Unless you're implying we had more than one lottery pick the same year...
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 8:42 pm    Post subject:

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Both guys are still young, but without knowing their progression (Ingram's rookie year & Dlo's rookie~sophomore years) you'd take Ingram over Russell based on his physical tools and skillset alone.


Physical tools, sure. But skillset???
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Both guys are still young, but without knowing their progression (Ingram's rookie year & Dlo's rookie~sophomore years) you'd take Ingram over Russell based on his physical tools and skillset alone.


Physical tools, sure. But skillset???


Yep, let's not ignore the other side of the floor... basketball is played on both halves.
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Both guys are still young, but without knowing their progression (Ingram's rookie year & Dlo's rookie~sophomore years) you'd take Ingram over Russell based on his physical tools and skillset alone.


Physical tools, sure. But skillset???


Yep, let's not ignore the other side of the floor... basketball is played on both halves.


And Ingram was a terrible defender last year. You're projecting based on physical tools.
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Both guys are still young, but without knowing their progression (Ingram's rookie year & Dlo's rookie~sophomore years) you'd take Ingram over Russell based on his physical tools and skillset alone.


Physical tools, sure. But skillset???


Yep, let's not ignore the other side of the floor... basketball is played on both halves.


And Ingram was a terrible defender last year. You're projecting based on physical tools.


Still is a projection now (I mean for both players); I'd pick Ingram before Dlo regardless.
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 8:56 pm    Post subject:

Porzingis/Booker and Ingram
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 8:24 am    Post subject:

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If DLo was so good, why would we draft another PG to replace him and force him to play out of his comfort zone? If we didn't get the lottery pick, would you guys have stuck with Dlo as the longterm solution at PG? And stayed mediocre like the the past 2 seasons?


We will hopefully draft BPA no matter what position they play


Definitely not at the three because BI is our guy going forward and then we have PG13 coming.


At the 3 if that is BPA. That player could be better than Ingram and PG might never be a Laker.
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 8:26 am    Post subject:

diando wrote:
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Ingram's class was easy. No one really stands out after.

Put Ingram in DLO's class, is he #2? Not sure.

Ingram>DLO any day, so definitely!


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