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crazylakerfan001
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| anpherknee wrote: | | zingis and ingram out there with nobody to pass them the ball would be so lit breh |
We got Lonzo Ball to pass them the ball brah  |
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Ingram was indubitably the right pick.
DLO/Porzingod/B70ker is the debate.
Looking at the team is constructed now, the revisionist's perfect world would be to trade down for Booker + additional asset. We don't exactly need Porinzgis anymore due to Zubac's emergence. |
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I wonder if we didn't have Jules already whether we would have picked Porky. I think they thought he was a PF.
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | I wonder if we didn't have Jules already whether we would have picked Porky. I think they thought he was a PF. |
Maybe if they were lying about the reason they passed on Porky. If not, the potential injury concerns would still be there.
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | I wonder if we didn't have Jules already whether we would have picked Porky. I think they thought he was a PF. |
Maybe if they were lying about the reason they passed on Porky. If not, the potential injury concerns would still be there. |
The irony was that Jules was coming off a season ending injury, and his stock might have fallen bc of his previous foot injuries.
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Porzingis is so overrated, unfairly to him.
Ultimately he is only a finisher. Cannot be relied upon to create offense at all. That limits his value. Whereas dlo can create for himself and others. Far more valuable skill imo.
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | I wonder if we didn't have Jules already whether we would have picked Porky. I think they thought he was a PF. |
Maybe if they were lying about the reason they passed on Porky. If not, the potential injury concerns would still be there. |
The irony was that Jules was coming off a season ending injury, and his stock might have fallen bc of his previous foot injuries. |
Yes, that timely release regarding the screws in his foot was a good move by the Lakers.
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I'm one of the biggest laker homers there is but some of the stuff I'm reading here "don't need to draft porzingis now that we have Zubac" 
"Porzingis can't create for others" (Who Cares?! He's 7'3 and can shoot threes, defend on the weak-side and pick & rolls while playing above the rim.
DLo is slow, has weak handles. no resemblance of quickness, and no defense. He has to play like a wiley ageing vet to get off his shots due to his lack of quickness/athleticism. It's sad really -- his offense game is like old Sam Cassell (minus the clutch-ness) Only way he can score is through pick & rolls by hitting the mid range or shooting a wide open 3 for a mediocre 35% clip. 
I don't for a second believe that if we know what we know now, you guys would take Porzingis or Booker in front of him. We'd be battling for the playoffs if we had switched Porzingis for Dlo this past season. |
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| Interesting wrote: | I'm one of the biggest laker homers there is but some of the stuff I'm reading here "don't need to draft porzingis now that we have Zubac"
"Porzingis can't create for others" (Who Cares?! He's 7'3 and can shoot threes, defend on the weak-side and pick & rolls while playing above the rim.
DLo is slow, has weak handles. no resemblance of quickness, and no defense. He has to play like a wiley ageing vet to get off his shots due to his lack of quickness/athleticism. It's sad really -- his offense game is like old Sam Cassell (minus the clutch-ness) Only way he can score is through pick & rolls by hitting the mid range or shooting a wide open 3 for a mediocre 35% clip.
I don't for a second believe that if we know what we know now, you guys would take Porzingis or Booker in front of him. We'd be battling for the playoffs if we had switched Porzingis for Dlo this past season. |
So why weren't the Knicks battling for the playoffs in a weaker conference? |
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Interesting wrote: | shooting a wide open 3 for a mediocre 35% clip.
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devin booker 3pt%: .363
kristaps porzingis 3pt%: .357
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| 44TheLogo wrote: | | Interesting wrote: | shooting a wide open 3 for a mediocre 35% clip.
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devin booker 3pt%: .363
kristaps porzingis 3pt%: .357
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Russell shoots 38.3% on wide open 3s anyways. His 35% on 3s is decidedly not just on wide open 3s. |
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| Isn't it even possible that if we had taken Porzingis, we might not had even been in a position to draft Ingram? We might have been slightly better or slightly worse in 2015 that we could've drafted Simmons or Jaylen Brown instead. Who really knows? |
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44TheLogo
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| tox wrote: | | 44TheLogo wrote: | | Interesting wrote: | shooting a wide open 3 for a mediocre 35% clip.
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devin booker 3pt%: .363
kristaps porzingis 3pt%: .357
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Russell shoots 38.3% on wide open 3s anyways. His 35% on 3s is decidedly not just on wide open 3s. |
yea obviously an overall 35% 3pt% is not solely on wide open 3s.
Interesting...anything but
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| With all the hindsight in the world... I still take DLo and Ingram. |
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| crazylakerfan001 wrote: | | anpherknee wrote: | | zingis and ingram out there with nobody to pass them the ball would be so lit breh |
We got Lonzo Ball to pass them the ball brah |
No we don't.
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 9:31 am Post subject: |
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In hindsight, Ingram and Porzingis
DLo will be good, but Porzingis is on another level of impact. And for one, he makes up for Randle's weaknesses |
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crazylakerfan001
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | crazylakerfan001 wrote: | | anpherknee wrote: | | zingis and ingram out there with nobody to pass them the ball would be so lit breh |
We got Lonzo Ball to pass them the ball brah |
No we don't. |
we will have him in a couple of weeks. |
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| ingle wrote: | In hindsight, Ingram and Porzingis
DLo will be good, but Porzingis is on another level of impact. And for one, he makes up for Randle's weaknesses |
At this point I'd call Dlo and Porzingis a close call with Porzingis a tad above.
Now stop a minute and think about that, Jokic was a late pick from Julius class, which one do you like best:
1 - Jokic / Dlo
2 - Julius / Porzingis
I'd take Jokic and Dlo every day of week, twice on sundays. |
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crazylakerfan001
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| nash wrote: | | ingle wrote: | In hindsight, Ingram and Porzingis
DLo will be good, but Porzingis is on another level of impact. And for one, he makes up for Randle's weaknesses |
At this point I'd call Dlo and Porzingis a close call with Porzingis a tad above.
Now stop a minute and think about that, Jokic was a late pick from Julius class, which one do you like best:
1 - Jokic / Dlo
2 - Julius / Porzingis
I'd take Jokic and Dlo every day of week, twice on sundays. |
so we could have had jokic, porzingis, ingram, and ball? where do i sign? |
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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| crazylakerfan001 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | crazylakerfan001 wrote: | | anpherknee wrote: | | zingis and ingram out there with nobody to pass them the ball would be so lit breh |
We got Lonzo Ball to pass them the ball brah |
No we don't. |
we will have him in a couple of weeks. |
Maybe
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I have no idea how to evaluate that. We knew at the time of each's draft that time would be required for each guy to develop. It's still too early to know if the Lakers picked well.
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