Shaq started super team fad by joining Kobe.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 12:18 pm    Post subject: Shaq started super team fad by joining Kobe.

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Was in my car, and heard a little of their show. Don't know who they are, and how old they are. Not sure who of the two said Shaq started super team fad by joining Kobe, but the other guy didn't correct him either. Kobe was the result of the Lakers needing to clear cap space to sign Shaq, so they had to trade Vlade. Lakers had high hopes, but they didn't know for sure. As for Shaq, he definitely didn't even know Kobe existed at the time, and couldn't possibly fathom some 17 yr old kid was going to challenge his alpha status one day.

Anyway, at first I was thinking, "Well that's the "experts" for you. They have no clue what they're yapping about." Then I thought it some more. Don't know how old they are, but I put myself as a 30 or 40 something ESPN commentator in 1996. Would I know NBA history fluently from 1976?

We know it because we lived it and are die hard fans, but is it excusable for "experts" on the radio to no know basic info?

Random thoughts on a lazy Saturday. LOL!
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 12:20 pm    Post subject:

LOL

Kobe was nobody at the time.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 12:20 pm    Post subject:

No man. Shaq just wanted to get paid. Orlando owner was too cheap to pay up and that's why he ended up with the Lakers. It had nothing to do with joining Kobe lol... he didn't know who Kobe was as Kobe was still in HS and preparing for the draft.

WTF dude.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 12:21 pm    Post subject:

Shaq started superteam fad by joining nick the quick and cedric blindfold ceballos... not Kobester
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 12:22 pm    Post subject:

Typical of today's sports talk radio, people just like hearing themselves talk and have little knowledge of what they are speaking about. It reminds me of the turn of the century when they were talking about the all-century MLB team, one host said there was no discussion at 2nd base, it had to be Jackie Robinson. What?
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 12:22 pm    Post subject:

I remember clearly. Kobe wasn't some cant miss player in the draft. Teams were wary of high school players coming into the draft.

Shaq joined Eddie Jones and Nick Van Excel. If they want to call them superstars then they obviously don't know much about the 90's.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 12:24 pm    Post subject:

Orlando was stacked with talent ffs. Penny Hardaway, Horace Grant, Dennis Scott, etc. If it weren't for the Bulls, they were the best team in the East.

I mean DUDES.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 12:25 pm    Post subject:

governator wrote:
Shaq started superteam fad by joining nick the quick and cedric blindfold ceballos... not Kobester


In todays NBA that would have been like Durant joining the Celtics or Hawks.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 12:35 pm    Post subject:

wrong angle.

Shaq and kobe started the NEED for a superteam fad.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 12:36 pm    Post subject:

Kobe was what 18 when he joined the Lakers....he was a nobody at that time.
He had potential but nobody could've seen his career going to the trajectory where MJ, Magic, have gone....
If there was anything to look at Kobe's early years it was the hard work he put into his game.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 12:39 pm    Post subject:

This just shows how much "experts" actually know. There are few opinions of actual merit in sports talk. Good analysis is hard to find these days.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 12:41 pm    Post subject:

lakersken80 wrote:
Kobe was what 18 when he joined the Lakers....he was a nobody at that time.
He had potential but nobody could've seen his career going to the trajectory where MJ, Magic, have gone....
If there was anything to look at Kobe's early years it was the hard work he put into his game.


I think Jerry West did...
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 12:44 pm    Post subject:

silkwilkes wrote:
Orlando was stacked with talent ffs. Penny Hardaway, Horace Grant, Dennis Scott, etc. If it weren't for the Bulls, they were the best team in the East.

I mean DUDES.


Nick Anderson & Brian Shaw also
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 1:02 pm    Post subject:

Kobe was a borderline lottery prospect when Shaq joined. Plus, we had super teams before that.

Scottie/MJ is just as lethal a combo as Kobe/Shaq.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 1:24 pm    Post subject:

Shaq left a superteam to join Kobe
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 1:32 pm    Post subject:

Kobe was a 17 year old phenom, but not sure how much stock Shaq would've put in the high school player since few high schoolers ever found success (aside from Shawn Kemp) back in those days. When you have Eddie Jones, NickyV, old man Byron, old man Jerome Kersey, then sleepy Elden Campbell as a backup, it didn't seem too shabby. The pieces would come. You had the Logo working on it.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 1:36 pm    Post subject:

has nothing to do with this thread, but the 97-98 lakers squad is one of my all time favorites to play in 2k. that team was stacked imo
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 1:36 pm    Post subject:

lol Orlando was a 60 win team. Kobe was a unknown back then, late lotto pick.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 1:47 pm    Post subject:

Dominator wrote:
Shaq left a superteam to join Kobe


Yep. If anything, he left a super team.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 2:08 pm    Post subject:

The definition of super team has become watered down. A really good team is not a super team.

A super team can lose one of its core players and still dominate. Kobe/Shaq was not a super team. Neither was MJ/Pippen.

Lebron/Wade/Bosh yes. GSW yes.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 2:13 pm    Post subject:

sogood. wrote:
lol Orlando was a 60 win team. Kobe was a unknown back then, late lotto pick.


Orlando botched that whole situation so badly that they drove Shaq to LA. They held every advantage but were so incompetent that they f'd it all up.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 2:14 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
Typical of today's sports talk radio, people just like hearing themselves talk and have little knowledge of what they are speaking about. It reminds me of the turn of the century when they were talking about the all-century MLB team, one host said there was no discussion at 2nd base, it had to be Jackie Robinson. What?


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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 4:19 pm    Post subject:

Shaq is full of it as usual
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 5:17 pm    Post subject:

Basketball Fan wrote:
Shaq is full of it as usual


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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 5:18 pm    Post subject:

Runway8 wrote:
Dominator wrote:
Shaq left a superteam to join Kobe


Yep. If anything, he left a super team.


Orlando was a title contending team, but not a superteam. Without Shaq they were just an average eastern conference team.
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