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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:40 am    Post subject: Why is Pirates of the Caribbean such a famous and high-grossing franchise?

I've actually never seen any of them, but the approval ratings for all except the first are negative. Why is this such a famous franchise? Is it worth watching?
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:49 am    Post subject:

First one's fun, second one has iconic villain and is fun as well

Third is just entertaining action adventure movie, not on same level as the earlier two

Fourth is eghhh

Fifth just came out, haven't seen it yet.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:49 am    Post subject:

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First one's fun, second one has iconic villain and is fun as well

Third is just entertaining action adventure movie, not on same level as the earlier two

Fourth is eghhh

Fifth just came out, haven't seen it yet.


Would you say it's worth watching the first three then?
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:55 am    Post subject:

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Chronicle wrote:
First one's fun, second one has iconic villain and is fun as well

Third is just entertaining action adventure movie, not on same level as the earlier two

Fourth is eghhh

Fifth just came out, haven't seen it yet.


Would you say it's worth watching the first three then?


Check out the first one, if you like it then yeah watch the second and third too

The soundtrack by hans zimmer is in many people's top favorites.

I think it was popular because of likable characters, funny dialogues, tropical setting and the great cast. And the soundtrack of course. but ymmv

crazy to think it was all based on that disney land ride
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 10:03 am    Post subject:

Chronicle wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Chronicle wrote:
First one's fun, second one has iconic villain and is fun as well

Third is just entertaining action adventure movie, not on same level as the earlier two

Fourth is eghhh

Fifth just came out, haven't seen it yet.


Would you say it's worth watching the first three then?


Check out the first one, if you like it then yeah watch the second and third too

The soundtrack by hans zimmer is in many people's top favorites.

I think it was popular because of likable characters, funny dialogues, tropical setting and the great cast. And the soundtrack of course. but ymmv

crazy to think it was all based on that disney land ride


Oh, I didn't know the ride came first. I thought the ride was based on the movie.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 11:29 am    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
Chronicle wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Chronicle wrote:
First one's fun, second one has iconic villain and is fun as well

Third is just entertaining action adventure movie, not on same level as the earlier two

Fourth is eghhh

Fifth just came out, haven't seen it yet.


Would you say it's worth watching the first three then?


Check out the first one, if you like it then yeah watch the second and third too

The soundtrack by hans zimmer is in many people's top favorites.

I think it was popular because of likable characters, funny dialogues, tropical setting and the great cast. And the soundtrack of course. but ymmv

crazy to think it was all based on that disney land ride


Oh, I didn't know the ride came first. I thought the ride was based on the movie.


It came out in the 60's.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 12:01 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
Chronicle wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Chronicle wrote:
First one's fun, second one has iconic villain and is fun as well

Third is just entertaining action adventure movie, not on same level as the earlier two

Fourth is eghhh

Fifth just came out, haven't seen it yet.


Would you say it's worth watching the first three then?


Check out the first one, if you like it then yeah watch the second and third too

The soundtrack by hans zimmer is in many people's top favorites.

I think it was popular because of likable characters, funny dialogues, tropical setting and the great cast. And the soundtrack of course. but ymmv

crazy to think it was all based on that disney land ride


Oh, I didn't know the ride came first. I thought the ride was based on the movie.


John Hammond: All major theme parks have had delays. When they opened Disneyland in 1956, nothing worked!

Ian Malcolm: Yeah John, but if the Pirates of the Caribbean breaks down, the pirates don't eat the tourists.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 12:35 pm    Post subject:

Chronicle wrote:
I think it was popular because of likable characters, funny dialogues, tropical setting and the great cast. And the soundtrack of course. but ymmv

crazy to think it was all based on that disney land ride


I haven't watched that movie in years, but at the time I was struck by how much it borrowed from the old PC game Pirates! by Sid Meier. It's been years now, so I couldn't give you a specific example. But I remember thinking how strange it was that a Hollywood blockbuster was based on a theme park ride and influenced by an old computer game.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 1:09 pm    Post subject:

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CandyCanes wrote:
Chronicle wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Chronicle wrote:
First one's fun, second one has iconic villain and is fun as well

Third is just entertaining action adventure movie, not on same level as the earlier two

Fourth is eghhh

Fifth just came out, haven't seen it yet.


Would you say it's worth watching the first three then?


Check out the first one, if you like it then yeah watch the second and third too

The soundtrack by hans zimmer is in many people's top favorites.

I think it was popular because of likable characters, funny dialogues, tropical setting and the great cast. And the soundtrack of course. but ymmv

crazy to think it was all based on that disney land ride


Oh, I didn't know the ride came first. I thought the ride was based on the movie.


John Hammond: All major theme parks have had delays. When they opened Disneyland in 1956, nothing worked!

Ian Malcolm: Yeah John, but if the Pirates of the Caribbean breaks down, the pirates don't eat the tourists.


Pirates, uh, find a way
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 1:09 pm    Post subject:

I haven't seen any of them either too, CC.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 1:35 pm    Post subject:

The first one is legitimately good. I feel that that movie would be much more respected if they never made the sequels.

The second one and third one were filmed back to back, so they are kinda connected. This is when the story became sorta confusing and incoherent, and the CGI was upped to infinity. It had good moments but I think they tried to do too much (not too different from Spider-Man 3 which came out the same year as the third).

I never saw the fourth one because the third one felt conclusive. Plus, half of the original cast left, and replaced with new characters.

I do feel inclined to watch the last one, but I'll have to see the fourth one before I do.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 4:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Why is Pirates of the Caribbean such a famous and high-grossing franchise?

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I've actually never seen any of them, but the approval ratings for all except the first are negative. Why is this such a famous franchise? Is it worth watching?


The first 3 movies have very positive "audience" scores. The audience pays to see the movies, the critics get paid to see movies. It's similar to why espn slobbers all over LBJ and his advanced stats, but Kobe got the fans around the world. They're measuring different things.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 4:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Why is Pirates of the Caribbean such a famous and high-grossing franchise?

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I've actually never seen any of them, but the approval ratings for all except the first are negative. Why is this such a famous franchise? Is it worth watching?


The first 3 movies have very positive "audience" scores. The audience pays to see the movies, the critics get paid to see movies. It's similar to why espn slobbers all over LBJ and his advanced stats, but Kobe got the fans around the world. They're measuring different things.


Oh, I see. So sort of like the Transformers franchise?
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 4:49 pm    Post subject:

The first Pirates film was a lot better than the first Transformers film. The analogy that jumps to mind for me is the Lethal Weapon series. Each one got a little bit weaker, but if you loved the characters, you went along for the ride.
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The first Pirates film was a lot better than the first Transformers film. The analogy that jumps to mind for me is the Lethal Weapon series. Each one got a little bit weaker, but if you loved the characters, you went along for the ride.


That's a fair analogy, although I would say the first pirates was not nearly as good as the first lethal weapon. Not as bad as transformers, but it did feature Johnny Depp doing his best ever, "let me play this as ask deliberately awfully as I can and I bet they still call it art" shtick.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 4:57 pm    Post subject:

Could barely get through the first one. Steered clear of the others.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 5:47 pm    Post subject:

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The first Pirates film was a lot better than the first Transformers film. .


There have been very few films that weren't better than Transformers.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 5:51 pm    Post subject:

There aren't many movies out there that can appeal equally to just about every age group. Parents are always looking for a movie they can take their youngsters too which they themselves will enjoy as well. One of the reasons Pixar and the recent run of animated films (with some adult themes) have done so well. Pirates hit on that, which is one of the major reasons why it continues to be so successful.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 6:27 pm    Post subject:

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Could barely get through the first one. Steered clear of the others.


I know, not enough blue aliens with bat ears for ya.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 6:36 pm    Post subject:

First one is probably the best one of the bunch. Second one started to fall off significantly and the third one was pure trash. Every thing now is a pure cash grab. Not worth seeing beyond the first movie IMO.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 7:02 pm    Post subject:

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The first Pirates film was a lot better than the first Transformers film. The analogy that jumps to mind for me is the Lethal Weapon series. Each one got a little bit weaker, but if you loved the characters, you went along for the ride.


That's a fair analogy, although I would say the first pirates was not nearly as good as the first lethal weapon. Not as bad as transformers, but it did feature Johnny Depp doing his best ever, "let me play this as ask deliberately awfully as I can and I bet they still call it art" shtick.


Lethal Weapon is the closest I can get. The first Die Hard is a cultural classic that profoundly influenced the whole action movie genre, but otherwise the trajectory of the series is similar. The first Highlander wasn't as good as the first Pirates, and then that series dropped off really, really fast. The Dirty Harry series isn't far off.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 7:17 pm    Post subject:

I enjoyed the first one and its the only one I'll watch if it's on tv. second was ok, third was bad and didn't bother with the 4th. won't watch the newest one, either.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:38 pm    Post subject:

Candy, everyones' tastes are different, I'm reasonably sure that had you been actually interested, you would have seen at least one of them by now.

Also, I'm reasonably sure if you listed your top ten favorite movies of the last 10 years, I could pick at least one of them that is worse than the first POTC...

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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 10:09 pm    Post subject:

I think its odd when people ask if it's "worth it" to watch a movie. Even if it's STILL in theaters and you have to fork over a few bucks to watch the damn thing... is it really that difficult to spare 2 hours (and 20 bucks) out of your busy and important life to plop your azz down and take in a movie?

CC, if you're expecting an Oscar-worthy motion picture, prepare to be let down.
If it's a few laughs and some decent entertainment you want... watch the damn thing. Or don't.

Some of the fun was spotting the easter eggs from the ride and connecting SOME of the dots.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 10:29 pm    Post subject:

PLATNUM wrote:
I think its odd when people ask if it's "worth it" to watch a movie. Even if it's STILL in theaters and you have to fork over a few bucks to watch the damn thing... is it really that difficult to spare 2 hours (and 20 bucks) out of your busy and important life to plop your azz down and take in a movie?

CC, if you're expecting an Oscar-worthy motion picture, prepare to be let down.
If it's a few laughs and some decent entertainment you want... watch the damn thing. Or don't.

Some of the fun was spotting the easter eggs from the ride and connecting SOME of the dots.


Just download the pirated Chinese version online. Totally worth it. Im lazy so I buy my bootleg movies from Jose at the flea market. He's always got the good stuff and 10 for 20!!
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