| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
strong9
Star Player
Joined: 22 Mar 2003
Posts: 3264
Location: so many places
|
 Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Dude had 14 assists and 8 rebounds to go with his 32 points. Yes he missed the free throws, but can we put things in perspective? When was the last time a Laker had that kind of game without it being a career performance? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
chickenjoy24
Star Player
Joined: 12 Dec 2008
Posts: 1477
Location: SFValley
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:29 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Pretty good game by Bron except for missing those 2 free throws and that last shot. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
KB824MJ
Star Player
Joined: 25 Jun 2015
Posts: 1349
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:31 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Honestly, I hate he missed those free throws. He definitely should not have had the ball. This is a known issue with him, but he wanted it. Never passed it up to a more reliable free throw shooter. I applaud him for trying to change that narrative. But dude is averaging 27 8 8. I was probably his harshest critic, especially after the friend over teammate thing. This LA pressure is a ton worse than any he's ever been in. He's right. Patience guys...we had the sky falling last year too, and were right there to get that 8th seed with a bunch of young guys.
Give Bron time. Give the team time. They could have been 3-0 as well. We have been in each game till the 4 minute mark. We show our youth though during that mark. They'll be good. They all need to adjust with a superstar player. Give them time, please |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Baron Von Humongous
Retired Number
Joined: 02 Jul 2015
Posts: 32979
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:38 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I love superstars. This was a great bad game from an elite talent.
_________________
Under New Management |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
panamaniac
Franchise Player
Joined: 28 May 2011
Posts: 11239
Location: PTY
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:42 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| I liked his postgame interview. Looks like he has a patient approach. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Inspector Gadget
Retired Number
Joined: 18 Apr 2016
Posts: 46639
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:43 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| KB824MJ wrote: | Honestly, I hate he missed those free throws. He definitely should not have had the ball. This is a known issue with him, but he wanted it. Never passed it up to a more reliable free throw shooter. I applaud him for trying to change that narrative. But dude is averaging 27 8 8. I was probably his harshest critic, especially after the friend over teammate thing. This LA pressure is a ton worse than any he's ever been in. He's right. Patience guys...we had the sky falling last year too, and were right there to get that 8th seed with a bunch of young guys.
Give Bron time. Give the team time. They could have been 3-0 as well. We have been in each game till the 4 minute mark. We show our youth though during that mark. They'll be good. They all need to adjust with a superstar player. Give them time, please |
Don’t care about the missed FTs he’s been missing them in clutch moments through out his career in Cleveland and Miami.. the result is still 8 finals and 3 championships.. he will find a way to lead us to victories consistently once the team starts to figure it out and he can do his thing in the 4th. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ramirezmu8
Starting Rotation
Joined: 11 Jul 2012
Posts: 758
Location: LA County
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:50 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| I was at the game and while his first half wasn't very good, he was awesome in the second half. The 3 he hit to tie the game was crazy, all of staples went wild. Too bad he couldn't hit those free throws in OT but I expect him to get better in all aspects of the game as the season progresses. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Omar Little
Moderator
Joined: 02 May 2005
Posts: 90306
Location: Formerly Known As 24
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:50 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| NotHype wrote: | | Overrated stat padder. Ain’t got half the talent of the great Kobe Bryant. |
Your lame one note posts remind of someone. BizLA perhaps?
_________________
“We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
KeepItRealOrElse
Retired Number
Joined: 11 Oct 2012
Posts: 32767
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:59 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| panamaniac wrote: | | I liked his postgame interview. Looks like he has a patient approach. |
he wants championships. he knows we're not close to GS this year... it's a whole bye/development year. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Inspector Gadget
Retired Number
Joined: 18 Apr 2016
Posts: 46639
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:01 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | panamaniac wrote: | | I liked his postgame interview. Looks like he has a patient approach. |
he wants championships. he knows we're not close to GS this year... it's a whole bye/development year. |
How would you know? we have no idea what he thinks, what he says to the media is completely different then what he says to the players, these guys believe they can win a title if they are saying it it’s because LeBron wants them to believe that.
Last edited by Inspector Gadget on Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:02 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
SocalDevin
Star Player
Joined: 26 May 2016
Posts: 7825
Location: Long Beach
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:01 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Water under the bridge but this would be a year to contend with Randle on the squad. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ziggy
Franchise Player
Joined: 10 Feb 2005
Posts: 12712
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| ESPN posted up Lebron's situational free throw stats. I don't remember the exact parameters, but it was something like "last 2 minutes of a one-possession game", and Lebron was 10-22 under those conditions since last season. Worst out of 15 other players with at least 10 attempts. I think that has to be fatigue as he's getting older. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
panamaniac
Franchise Player
Joined: 28 May 2011
Posts: 11239
Location: PTY
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | panamaniac wrote: | | I liked his postgame interview. Looks like he has a patient approach. |
he wants championships. he knows we're not close to GS this year... it's a whole bye/development year. |
I like the "I know what I got myself into" sound bite.
Last edited by panamaniac on Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:08 pm; edited 2 times in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
dont_be_a_wuss
Franchise Player
Joined: 29 Mar 2012
Posts: 21458
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:07 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Ziggy wrote: | | ESPN posted up Lebron's situational free throw stats. I don't remember the exact parameters, but it was something like "last 2 minutes of a one-possession game", and Lebron was 10-22 under those conditions since last season. Worst out of 15 other players with at least 10 attempts. I think that has to be fatigue as he's getting older. |
Do you think nerves play a role? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
epak
Retired Number
Joined: 30 Aug 2005
Posts: 34147
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:08 pm Post subject: |
|
|
He gets numbers like it's nothing.
That's nuts. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
BobbyB
Star Player
Joined: 05 Feb 2013
Posts: 2489
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:09 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Lebron has been great.
Hardest pill to swallow is we could be 3-0 right now if a couple breaks went our way. I believe. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
El Seano
Starting Rotation
Joined: 14 Nov 2008
Posts: 895
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:10 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Jesus this thread is (bleep) cancerous. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Inspector Gadget
Retired Number
Joined: 18 Apr 2016
Posts: 46639
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:21 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| epak wrote: | He gets numbers like it's nothing.
That's nuts. |
He’s putting up nice stats while free flowing in games, just imagine if he locks in and starts to dominate teams on a nightly basis, this is nothing for him. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Judah
Star Player
Joined: 23 Jun 2015
Posts: 4759
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | Ziggy wrote: | | ESPN posted up Lebron's situational free throw stats. I don't remember the exact parameters, but it was something like "last 2 minutes of a one-possession game", and Lebron was 10-22 under those conditions since last season. Worst out of 15 other players with at least 10 attempts. I think that has to be fatigue as he's getting older. |
Do you think nerves play a role? |
The number of clutch shots Kobe missed over the course of his career is too many to count. In fact, he probably missed more than he made. But I don't think nerves were necessarily the reason. I see no reason to think nerves have anything to do with it for LeBron either. You aren't going to make every single one in those situations. This is elementary stuff that all of us are completely aware of, but people always seem to allow emotion to overrule logic after losses for some reason. A classic sign of weak-mindedness IMO.
_________________
“Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
- John Piper |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
dont_be_a_wuss
Franchise Player
Joined: 29 Mar 2012
Posts: 21458
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:25 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Judah wrote: | | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | Ziggy wrote: | | ESPN posted up Lebron's situational free throw stats. I don't remember the exact parameters, but it was something like "last 2 minutes of a one-possession game", and Lebron was 10-22 under those conditions since last season. Worst out of 15 other players with at least 10 attempts. I think that has to be fatigue as he's getting older. |
Do you think nerves play a role? |
The number of clutch shots Kobe missed over the course of his career is too many to count. In fact, he probably missed more than he made. But I don't think nerves were necessarily the reason. I see no reason to think nerves have anything to do with it for LeBron either. You aren't going to make every single one in those situations. This is elementary stuff that all of us are completely aware of, but people always seem to allow emotion to overrule logic after losses for some reason. A classic sign of weak-mindedness IMO. |
This article looks at LeBron clutch shooting vs Kobe and Kobe was 3x better. But hey, lets stick to our predetermined narratives. 
https://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-kobe-bryant-clutch-shooting-awful-airball-5-for-47-022916
We also have these stats showing Kobe as 80% on FT's in clutch situations while Lebron is 67%. https://www.82games.com/random23.htm |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
KB824MJ
Star Player
Joined: 25 Jun 2015
Posts: 1349
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:31 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | Judah wrote: | | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | Ziggy wrote: | | ESPN posted up Lebron's situational free throw stats. I don't remember the exact parameters, but it was something like "last 2 minutes of a one-possession game", and Lebron was 10-22 under those conditions since last season. Worst out of 15 other players with at least 10 attempts. I think that has to be fatigue as he's getting older. |
Do you think nerves play a role? |
The number of clutch shots Kobe missed over the course of his career is too many to count. In fact, he probably missed more than he made. But I don't think nerves were necessarily the reason. I see no reason to think nerves have anything to do with it for LeBron either. You aren't going to make every single one in those situations. This is elementary stuff that all of us are completely aware of, but people always seem to allow emotion to overrule logic after losses for some reason. A classic sign of weak-mindedness IMO. |
This article looks at LeBron clutch shooting vs Kobe and Kobe was 3x better. But hey, lets stick to our predetermined narratives.
https://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-kobe-bryant-clutch-shooting-awful-airball-5-for-47-022916 |
I think the narrative of his free throws has always been there, but let's be happy that he wanted it. He didn't shy from it. Usually he does, but he didn't tonight. I'm sure the free throws is mental. That's been a stigma for him all his career. Honestly, surely he could hire some hecklers in practice and practice those with pressure or hire therapist to see why he can't make free throws in clutch |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
tox
Franchise Player
Joined: 16 Nov 2015
Posts: 17876
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:43 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Can you just... guard people shooting 3s?
Killed me when Kobe didn't do it in '12-'13
Kills me now |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
BruceLeroy1985
Starting Rotation
Joined: 01 Dec 2013
Posts: 255
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:49 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Need to face facts. Lebron has never been a closer. He has never really been a clutch player. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
epak
Retired Number
Joined: 30 Aug 2005
Posts: 34147
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:55 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| BruceLeroy1985 wrote: | | Need to face facts. Lebron has never been a closer. He has never really been a clutch player. |
Except in 2017, which was only a year ago.
Last edited by epak on Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:17 am; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Lakers200
Rookie
Joined: 04 Jul 2018
Posts: 16
|
| Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:03 am Post subject: |
|
|
| BruceLeroy1985 wrote: | | Need to face facts. Lebron has never been a closer. He has never really been a clutch player. |
This is idiotic that people still believe this sentiment |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
