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RealSkipBayless Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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1:20 LeBron James misses 24-foot three point jumper 123 - 118
44.3 DeAndre Jordan blocks LeBron James' 2-foot driving layup 123 - 120
30.6 LeBron James misses 22-foot jumper 123 - 122
2.3 Mario Hezonja blocks LeBron James 's 13-foot two point shot 123 - 124
_________________ Lebron James plays no defense because his fans do all the defending for him
"Lebron James is no longer chasing Jordan, I think he is only chasing Michael B. Jordan as in hollywood." ~ Skip Bayless |
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KingKobe20 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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RealSkipBayless wrote: | 1:20 LeBron James misses 24-foot three point jumper 123 - 118
44.3 DeAndre Jordan blocks LeBron James' 2-foot driving layup 123 - 120
30.6 LeBron James misses 22-foot jumper 123 - 122
2.3 Mario Hezonja blocks LeBron James 's 13-foot two point shot 123 - 124
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What about Lebron playing on the court with KCP, Hart, Caruso, and Jon Williams???
How many games does Kawhi, Giannis, or KD win with that kind of firepower??? |
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KingKobe20 Franchise Player
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Chad09 wrote: | Quote: | LeBron James on free agency: "There are a lot of great free agents this summer. Not going to name any names because every time I say something or our org says something about a specific person, we get in trouble.
LeBron James on #Lakers front office: "They only want us to go out & perform at a high level & play the game at a high level, so we can be mentioned with some of the great teams in the league at that point in time." (Via @SpectrumSN)
LeBron James on what #Lakers' message to free agents this summer will be: "I don't know. Listen, at the end of the day this franchise wants to win & wants to win big, & one thing about the franchise is they cater to the players & that's it. Everything else comes secondary." |
LeBron talking about FA. |
People love to fall into the narrative that Lebron doesn't care about this franchise and is only here to make movies and tv shows yet he's constantly backing up the FO and everything Lakers.
As Alex Caruso has been busting his ass every game only further proves the point that if Lonzo was here we wouldn't be this deep in the hole right now.
If we didn't have Caruso today Lebron still goes off for 30+ points but we lose way before the final 3 minute stretch were we went scoreless. |
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SocalDevin Star Player
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I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
I don't believe he has any sort of attachment to the personnel around him.
This doesn't mean that he doesn't care about the teams success. His brand is tarnished if it isn't.
I conclude that he does care about the Lakers, he does however care more about what's in his best interest. I guess one could argue that all players should have this mentality. Some of his extracurricular activity on the bench and ramblings during press interviews are really bad optically. If he cared more about his squad this wouldn't be the case in my opinion. |
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ryan_c Star Player
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KingKobe20 wrote: | RealSkipBayless wrote: | 1:20 LeBron James misses 24-foot three point jumper 123 - 118
44.3 DeAndre Jordan blocks LeBron James' 2-foot driving layup 123 - 120
30.6 LeBron James misses 22-foot jumper 123 - 122
2.3 Mario Hezonja blocks LeBron James 's 13-foot two point shot 123 - 124
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What about Lebron playing on the court with KCP, Hart, Caruso, and Jon Williams???
How many games does Kawhi, Giannis, or KD win with that kind of firepower??? |
How about Lebron is up against a Knicks team that has 14-56 record? How about Lebron is considered a great player and can't beat this Knicks team. How about Kobe at age 34, with a worse supporting cast, carrying Lakers to reach the playoffs before? How about when Ingram and Kuzma are still there with Lebron and Lakers are still losing before? |
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md8 Star Player
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Hey guys it's not Lebron's fault. He just has no help. You can't expect the GOAT to beat teams like the Suns and Knicks with all their good players. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Ziggy wrote: | Jesusdelonla wrote: | LakerLogic wrote: |
That is more factual than your opinion. You really think a team will give up major assets for a post-prime LBJ? |
27.4/8.6/8 line for the year and is post prime |
Lebron can put up stats in his sleep. For me the eye test doesn't support the statline. His age has really been showing this season. |
Yes, the decline was evident the last two seasons in Cleveland but this season it is much worse. I don’t think he was in good shape at any point during the season. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Joe Pesci Star Player
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venturalakersfan wrote: | Ziggy wrote: | Jesusdelonla wrote: | LakerLogic wrote: |
That is more factual than your opinion. You really think a team will give up major assets for a post-prime LBJ? |
27.4/8.6/8 line for the year and is post prime |
Lebron can put up stats in his sleep. For me the eye test doesn't support the statline. His age has really been showing this season. |
Yes, the decline was evident the last two seasons in Cleveland but this season it is much worse. I don’t think he was in good shape at any point during the season. |
Indeed. You're right. Not a normal fine tuning off-season for him for sure ... and it shows. _________________ A creative scorer, a wing defender, and a shooter. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Jesusdelonla wrote: | LakerLogic wrote: | Jesusdelonla wrote: | LakerLogic wrote: | Jesusdelonla wrote: | Megaton wrote: | Definitely thinking about Lebron should be traded.
If the rumors about nobody wanting to play with him are true, Lebron should be traded straight up for Anthony Davis. New Orleans get 3 years of control of Lebron while he plays with a cast that shoots, while we get AD wanting out of NO in the first place.
If we get the 1st pick for Zion, then this move makes even more sense.
Then with Lebron gone, we can now get Kawhi and have a lineup of Lonzo/Ingram/Leonard/Zion/Davis. That’s a championship lineup on both sides of the court. |
with lebron traded i bet AD doesnt sign.
just trade him to phoenix for Ayton, 2019 pick, josh jackson, okobo, miles bridges and 2020 pick
they can play booker + Lebron |
LBJ does not have a lot of trade value around the league. You would be lucky to get a decent prospect and a couple of 1st round picks. |
just because u r low on a player doesnt mean entire nba gm community is
Lebron + Booker + extended Kelly Oubre would be a force |
Then go read the article where they talk to GM/executives of other teams about his trade value. Those are facts regardless of what I think. |
the made up article by Ric Bucher? how can they fact when they cant put their name in the report? lets talk when they can put their name behind what they are saying
cool story |
They would be tampering. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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The Lebrons Star Player
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He's really putting his recruiting skills to the test. |
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#DeathMetalMatters wrote: | We got the "He gets blocked by a tall white guy on the Knicks, Lebron. hahaha
We just can't seem to shake the post Paul trade fiasco(organization assassination?) blues. |
Unfortunately, it looks like the Lakers got Lebron at the tail end of his career. It was bound to happen that he would start to look "old". |
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Lakeshow824 Sixth Man
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md8 wrote: | Hey guys it's not Lebron's fault. He just has no help. You can't expect the GOAT to beat teams like the Suns and Knicks with all their good players. |
Yes, you can't win games single handily. Even the greatest player of all time cant win games by himself. I'm glad you understand. |
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RG73 Franchise Player
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ryan_c wrote: |
How about Lebron is up against a Knicks team that has 14-56 record? How about Lebron is considered a great player and can't beat this Knicks team. How about Kobe at age 34, with a worse supporting cast, carrying Lakers to reach the playoffs before? How about when Ingram and Kuzma are still there with Lebron and Lakers are still losing before? |
You mean when Kobe was playing with Pau, Dwight, Nash, and Metta? And when he had 2 40% 3 point shooters? And he had 2x all-star Jamison off the bench? Yeah, I'm sure Lebron would have had a hard-time making the playoffs with 3 other HOFers, 5 all-stars, and 2 DPOYs...plus a better coach. Lets not forget the expectation of that team was winning a championship, and by the time Kobe went down they were at 43 wins (with substantially better health than what Lebron's Laker team had this season).
If you guys want to keep doing these comparisons, how about we be historically honest? |
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LeBron came here for the sunny weather |
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CHRISTYLE70 Star Player
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RG73 wrote: | ryan_c wrote: |
How about Lebron is up against a Knicks team that has 14-56 record? How about Lebron is considered a great player and can't beat this Knicks team. How about Kobe at age 34, with a worse supporting cast, carrying Lakers to reach the playoffs before? How about when Ingram and Kuzma are still there with Lebron and Lakers are still losing before? |
You mean when Kobe was playing with Pau, Dwight, Nash, and Metta? And when he had 2 40% 3 point shooters? And he had 2x all-star Jamison off the bench? Yeah, I'm sure Lebron would have had a hard-time making the playoffs with 3 other HOFers, 5 all-stars, and 2 DPOYs...plus a better coach. Lets not forget the expectation of that team was winning a championship, and by the time Kobe went down they were at 43 wins (with substantially better health than what Lebron's Laker team had this season).
If you guys want to keep doing these comparisons, how about we be historically honest? |
Yea the team that had an injured Nash Pau and Dwight, so yea if youre going to be historically honest do so, same team that was 17-25 at one point. |
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KingKobe20 Franchise Player
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CHRISTYLE70 wrote: | RG73 wrote: | ryan_c wrote: |
How about Lebron is up against a Knicks team that has 14-56 record? How about Lebron is considered a great player and can't beat this Knicks team. How about Kobe at age 34, with a worse supporting cast, carrying Lakers to reach the playoffs before? How about when Ingram and Kuzma are still there with Lebron and Lakers are still losing before? |
You mean when Kobe was playing with Pau, Dwight, Nash, and Metta? And when he had 2 40% 3 point shooters? And he had 2x all-star Jamison off the bench? Yeah, I'm sure Lebron would have had a hard-time making the playoffs with 3 other HOFers, 5 all-stars, and 2 DPOYs...plus a better coach. Lets not forget the expectation of that team was winning a championship, and by the time Kobe went down they were at 43 wins (with substantially better health than what Lebron's Laker team had this season).
If you guys want to keep doing these comparisons, how about we be historically honest? |
Yea the team that had an injured Nash Pau and Dwight, so yea if youre going to be historically honest do so, same team that was 17-25 at one point. |
Steve Nash, Jodie Meeks, Antawn Jamison , Steve Blake and Andrew Goudelock are all waaaayyy better 3 point shooters than the crap we have today of KCP and tbh I don’t know who else to list from our current roster as a “3 point specialist”. |
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RG73 wrote: | ryan_c wrote: |
How about Lebron is up against a Knicks team that has 14-56 record? How about Lebron is considered a great player and can't beat this Knicks team. How about Kobe at age 34, with a worse supporting cast, carrying Lakers to reach the playoffs before? How about when Ingram and Kuzma are still there with Lebron and Lakers are still losing before? |
You mean when Kobe was playing with Pau, Dwight, Nash, and Metta? And when he had 2 40% 3 point shooters? And he had 2x all-star Jamison off the bench? Yeah, I'm sure Lebron would have had a hard-time making the playoffs with 3 other HOFers, 5 all-stars, and 2 DPOYs...plus a better coach. Lets not forget the expectation of that team was winning a championship, and by the time Kobe went down they were at 43 wins (with substantially better health than what Lebron's Laker team had this season).
If you guys want to keep doing these comparisons, how about we be historically honest? |
In addition to all that, the Lakers winning percentage that season put them 7th in the west, but the same winning percentage this year would only put them 9th in the west. |
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Pretty clear to me that he has to play "PF" from now on. He doesn't want to, but he's less and less effective going up against quicker and more athletic defenders (and on defense he has no chance staying with them on a full game basis). _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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CHRISTYLE70 wrote: | RG73 wrote: | ryan_c wrote: |
How about Lebron is up against a Knicks team that has 14-56 record? How about Lebron is considered a great player and can't beat this Knicks team. How about Kobe at age 34, with a worse supporting cast, carrying Lakers to reach the playoffs before? How about when Ingram and Kuzma are still there with Lebron and Lakers are still losing before? |
You mean when Kobe was playing with Pau, Dwight, Nash, and Metta? And when he had 2 40% 3 point shooters? And he had 2x all-star Jamison off the bench? Yeah, I'm sure Lebron would have had a hard-time making the playoffs with 3 other HOFers, 5 all-stars, and 2 DPOYs...plus a better coach. Lets not forget the expectation of that team was winning a championship, and by the time Kobe went down they were at 43 wins (with substantially better health than what Lebron's Laker team had this season).
If you guys want to keep doing these comparisons, how about we be historically honest? |
Yea the team that had an injured Nash Pau and Dwight, so yea if youre going to be historically honest do so, same team that was 17-25 at one point. |
That was an injury ridden team too. Nash played 50 games and Pau 49. Dwight played 76 games and made 3rd team all-NBA.
I don't think many people would disagree that that team had more talent than the current team. Nash was an all-star the year before; Gasol was an all-star before and after.
Probably the most disappointing team in Lakers history. The season started with people dreaming of us beating the all-time wins record; it ended with a 0-4 first round. |
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CHRISTYLE70 wrote: | RG73 wrote: | ryan_c wrote: |
How about Lebron is up against a Knicks team that has 14-56 record? How about Lebron is considered a great player and can't beat this Knicks team. How about Kobe at age 34, with a worse supporting cast, carrying Lakers to reach the playoffs before? How about when Ingram and Kuzma are still there with Lebron and Lakers are still losing before? |
You mean when Kobe was playing with Pau, Dwight, Nash, and Metta? And when he had 2 40% 3 point shooters? And he had 2x all-star Jamison off the bench? Yeah, I'm sure Lebron would have had a hard-time making the playoffs with 3 other HOFers, 5 all-stars, and 2 DPOYs...plus a better coach. Lets not forget the expectation of that team was winning a championship, and by the time Kobe went down they were at 43 wins (with substantially better health than what Lebron's Laker team had this season).
If you guys want to keep doing these comparisons, how about we be historically honest? |
Yea the team that had an injured Nash Pau and Dwight, so yea if youre going to be historically honest do so, same team that was 17-25 at one point. |
Not that I care about the debate but Pau missed half the season, Nash did too and was also 75 years old and Dwight was playing injured (still good defensively). |
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activeverb wrote: | CHRISTYLE70 wrote: | RG73 wrote: | ryan_c wrote: |
How about Lebron is up against a Knicks team that has 14-56 record? How about Lebron is considered a great player and can't beat this Knicks team. How about Kobe at age 34, with a worse supporting cast, carrying Lakers to reach the playoffs before? How about when Ingram and Kuzma are still there with Lebron and Lakers are still losing before? |
You mean when Kobe was playing with Pau, Dwight, Nash, and Metta? And when he had 2 40% 3 point shooters? And he had 2x all-star Jamison off the bench? Yeah, I'm sure Lebron would have had a hard-time making the playoffs with 3 other HOFers, 5 all-stars, and 2 DPOYs...plus a better coach. Lets not forget the expectation of that team was winning a championship, and by the time Kobe went down they were at 43 wins (with substantially better health than what Lebron's Laker team had this season).
If you guys want to keep doing these comparisons, how about we be historically honest? |
Yea the team that had an injured Nash Pau and Dwight, so yea if youre going to be historically honest do so, same team that was 17-25 at one point. |
That was an injury ridden team too. Nash played 50 games and Pau 49. Dwight played 76 games and made 3rd team all-NBA.
I don't think many people would disagree that that team had more talent than the current team. Nash was an all-star the year before; Gasol was an all-star before and after.
Probably the most disappointing team in Lakers history. The season started with people dreaming of us beating the all-time wins record; it ended with a 0-4 first round. |
And effectively the end of Kobe's career with the injury. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | activeverb wrote: | CHRISTYLE70 wrote: | RG73 wrote: | ryan_c wrote: |
How about Lebron is up against a Knicks team that has 14-56 record? How about Lebron is considered a great player and can't beat this Knicks team. How about Kobe at age 34, with a worse supporting cast, carrying Lakers to reach the playoffs before? How about when Ingram and Kuzma are still there with Lebron and Lakers are still losing before? |
You mean when Kobe was playing with Pau, Dwight, Nash, and Metta? And when he had 2 40% 3 point shooters? And he had 2x all-star Jamison off the bench? Yeah, I'm sure Lebron would have had a hard-time making the playoffs with 3 other HOFers, 5 all-stars, and 2 DPOYs...plus a better coach. Lets not forget the expectation of that team was winning a championship, and by the time Kobe went down they were at 43 wins (with substantially better health than what Lebron's Laker team had this season).
If you guys want to keep doing these comparisons, how about we be historically honest? |
Yea the team that had an injured Nash Pau and Dwight, so yea if youre going to be historically honest do so, same team that was 17-25 at one point. |
That was an injury ridden team too. Nash played 50 games and Pau 49. Dwight played 76 games and made 3rd team all-NBA.
I don't think many people would disagree that that team had more talent than the current team. Nash was an all-star the year before; Gasol was an all-star before and after.
Probably the most disappointing team in Lakers history. The season started with people dreaming of us beating the all-time wins record; it ended with a 0-4 first round. |
And effectively the end of Kobe's career with the injury. |
Yup, that was a crushing season. And then Mitch/Jimbo gave Kobe that mystifying extension. That is up there with their worse decisions, which is saying a lot. |
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RG73 wrote: | ryan_c wrote: |
How about Lebron is up against a Knicks team that has 14-56 record? How about Lebron is considered a great player and can't beat this Knicks team. How about Kobe at age 34, with a worse supporting cast, carrying Lakers to reach the playoffs before? How about when Ingram and Kuzma are still there with Lebron and Lakers are still losing before? |
You mean when Kobe was playing with Pau, Dwight, Nash, and Metta? And when he had 2 40% 3 point shooters? And he had 2x all-star Jamison off the bench? Yeah, I'm sure Lebron would have had a hard-time making the playoffs with 3 other HOFers, 5 all-stars, and 2 DPOYs...plus a better coach. Lets not forget the expectation of that team was winning a championship, and by the time Kobe went down they were at 43 wins (with substantially better health than what Lebron's Laker team had this season).
If you guys want to keep doing these comparisons, how about we be historically honest? |
RG, you know I've always had nothing but respect for ya, but definitely disagree with you on this one, my friend.
That 2012/2013 Laker roster was a (bleep) of injuries, old dudes, wrong coach, and poor chemistry. Some of the guys you listed had good resumes but had one foot in the grave by that season, and were simply names. Sounds kind of familiar.
My problem with Lebron and the vehement support he has enjoyed over his career is the "he just needs more help" whenever things go wrong. It's never him, it's always everyone else. With the follow up that so and son had it so great (MJ, Kobe, Magic, etc.) This season is a classic example of that.
This was an absolute failure of a season. This we can all agree on. Injuries, coaching, and overall roster construction, all played a part. We can all agree there, too. However, in the context of the above posts, specifically failing to make the playoffs is on Lebron as much as anyone else.
We were ~2 games out of the playoffs after ASB and proceeded to get one quality win with an "activated" Lebron, while having most of our key pieces playing. I'm sorry, but when you take Ls to the Pelicans, Grizzlies, Suns, in what are must win games, the blame starts with the star.
The biggest difference from Kobe's 12/13 season and Lebron's 18/19, is that when (bleep) hit the fan for Kobe, he as usual, not only SAID (bleep) it, I'm getting us to the playoffs, he DID everything he possibly could. He absolutely willed that team into the playoffs. Lebron on the other hand, filled up the box score. We rag on players on lotto teams putting up empty stats, well, that's what I largely saw with Lebron this year, and especially when we needed the Ws the most post-ASB and he was healthy (but reportedly out of shape). There were multiple points in the season where he could have turned the tide, either through leadership or his play on the court, he simply never did. He got his stats, nothing more, nothing less. How much help is needed to beat some of the lowly teams in the NBA? You have an 11 point lead late in the 4th against the Knicks and proceed to throw up bricks and get blocked by some scrub for game winner? That blame doesn't fall onto The Others, that has to start with Lebron. He's one of the greatest to play the game, was healthy post-ASB, and we were in range of the playoffs, it just never happened. There's probably a happy medium between Kobe's maniacal pursuit to win at all costs (which did shorten his career with the achilles, obviously) and Lebron's I Got Mine What About You attitude, but I'd much rather have the star be closer to Kobe's philosophy as at least that's a better example for the young guys and establishes a better culture.
Falling this far into the lotto was certainly a combination of things, and there are multiple threads for it. But for the 18/19 season, just all around very poor leadership from Lebron (on and off the court, no defense, pointing fingers and rolling eyes constantly), effort level (walking the dog straight out of bounds, throwing it off the backboard on an inbounds, little hustle/intensity, drinking wine coming into the games, and just a lot of tone deaf self aggrandizing, had as much to do as anything else). If Lebron took his old Cavs / Kevin Love advice of trying to fit in instead of fit out, and stopped patting himself on the back for his accomplishments on IG and proclaiming himself the goat, and really locked in this season, we make the playoffs. Whether that's relevant or not isn't my point here, but playoffs definitely were in play, he just took the ball and walked it out of bounds.
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Yeah, here's where I stand.
The 2012-13 was expected to be a Finals caliber team (ironically against LBJ's HEAT). The fact that they were so terrible AND we basically lost Kobe made this a worse season than this year for me. This year, I literally expected at least a 1st round playoff berth.
But this has made me appreciate Kobe more. Yes, Kobe isn't perfect, but I'll never forget how he took that team on his back and literally paid for it with his body (and rest of career).
I do think LBJ made a calculated choice to hold back on the season and backed off the throttle. For that he can be criticized no doubt. But I'm still eager to see this team next season when we will hopefully have a healthier LBJ, new max FA, and the YUTES back in force. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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trablos Star Player
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venturalakersfan wrote: | Ziggy wrote: | Jesusdelonla wrote: | LakerLogic wrote: |
That is more factual than your opinion. You really think a team will give up major assets for a post-prime LBJ? |
27.4/8.6/8 line for the year and is post prime |
Lebron can put up stats in his sleep. For me the eye test doesn't support the statline. His age has really been showing this season. |
Yes, the decline was evident the last two seasons in Cleveland but this season it is much worse. I don’t think he was in good shape at any point during the season. |
There are many words I could use to describe Lebron in last years playoffs, and decline is not one of them. |
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