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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Chad09 wrote: | 32 wrote: | Can we get a thread title update on Sam Amicks tweet? |
Or even what SAS said earlier. |
Its not really news. Just another person in a long line summarizing what they hear. Another mod can change it if they want, but I think the current headline is more valuable. _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
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LakerSD Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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LakerSanity wrote: | Chad09 wrote: | 32 wrote: | Can we get a thread title update on Sam Amicks tweet? |
Or even what SAS said earlier. |
Its not really news. Just another person in a long line summarizing what they hear. Another mod can change it if they want, but I think the current headline is more valuable. |
Heard that interview live on my drive...nothing new. That tweet sounds more than what it really was in the context of actual interview. |
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LakerLanny Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Look at it like the Belmont Stakes.
We are heading into the stretch leading in a tight race.
And our horse (much like JUSTIFY) is a winner who doesn't finish 2nd.
The Lakers will be a force to be reckoned with again this season, believe it. _________________ Love, Laker Lanny |
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kawhileonard Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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With recent news that lebron wants to stay makes you wonder if he is pressuring magic and pelinka to make trades asap |
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Chad09 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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kawhileonard wrote: | With recent news that lebron wants to stay makes you wonder if he is pressuring magic and pelinka to make trades asap |
LeBron is not staying in Cleveland. Cavs had a trade set for PG13 and he still wouldn't commit to them. |
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2019 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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kawhileonard wrote: | With recent news that lebron wants to stay makes you wonder if he is pressuring magic and pelinka to make trades asap |
LeBron does not want to stay..
The man wouldn't sign an extension, let alone give commitment he would stay, with a team of LeBron/Kyrie/PG all but signed, sealed and delivered. |
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kawhileonard Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Lebron could always pick up his player option and try again with the cavs for another season.
Lebron will only come if the situation is perfect and already setup. (meaning pg13 is here and potentially leonard, trading for damien, etc.)
There is no way he will be the first domino to fall. |
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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kawhileonard wrote: | Lebron could always pick up his player option and try again with the cavs for another season.
Lebron will only come if the situation is perfect and already setup. (meaning pg13 is here and potentially leonard, trading for damien, etc.)
There is no way he will be the first domino to fall. |
Is Cleveland a perfect situation for him? |
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kawhileonard Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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vanexelent wrote: | kawhileonard wrote: | Lebron could always pick up his player option and try again with the cavs for another season.
Lebron will only come if the situation is perfect and already setup. (meaning pg13 is here and potentially leonard, trading for damien, etc.)
There is no way he will be the first domino to fall. |
Is Cleveland a perfect situation for him? |
Far from it. However, besides Boston, there really is no threat to TEAM Lebron in the east.
Also, he will have a lot less pressure in the Cavs vs making a superteam in LA. The media will be more forgiving to his failures and he doesn't have to play under Kobe's shadow...
IF LEBRON Came to LA and failed, everyone would said, KOBE WOULD OF SUCCEEDED, etc and his legacy in the east was due to a crap conference for the past decade.
The amount of pressure Lebron will face here will be the most in his entire career.
Also, going back to the team structure itself, Lebron has always been the one constructing the teams and I highly doubt he wants to play with young players now or ever, unless it's his son |
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2019 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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kawhileonard wrote: | vanexelent wrote: | kawhileonard wrote: | Lebron could always pick up his player option and try again with the cavs for another season.
Lebron will only come if the situation is perfect and already setup. (meaning pg13 is here and potentially leonard, trading for damien, etc.)
There is no way he will be the first domino to fall. |
Is Cleveland a perfect situation for him? |
Far from it. However, besides Boston, there really is no threat to TEAM Lebron in the east.
Also, he will have a lot less pressure in the Cavs vs making a superteam in LA. The media will be more forgiving to his failures and he doesn't have to play under Kobe's shadow...
IF LEBRON Came to LA and failed, everyone would said, KOBE WOULD OF SUCCEEDED, etc and his legacy in the east was due to a crap conference for the past decade.
The amount of pressure Lebron will face here will be the most in his entire career.
Also, going back to the team structure itself, Lebron has always been the one constructing the teams and I highly doubt he wants to play with young players now or ever, unless it's his son |
1) Don't think LeBron is scared of the limelight or pressure of playing here
2) He wouldn't come here just to play with 20 year olds... others would come
3) Philly is in the East + the Bucks with a real coach are going to be a factor
4) If he won a ring or 2 in LA, his legacy would make a quantum leap forward |
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Freddie Buckets Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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32 wrote: | Can we get a thread title update on Sam Amicks tweet? |
what did amick say? |
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kawhileonard Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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2019 wrote: | kawhileonard wrote: | vanexelent wrote: | kawhileonard wrote: | Lebron could always pick up his player option and try again with the cavs for another season.
Lebron will only come if the situation is perfect and already setup. (meaning pg13 is here and potentially leonard, trading for damien, etc.)
There is no way he will be the first domino to fall. |
Is Cleveland a perfect situation for him? |
Far from it. However, besides Boston, there really is no threat to TEAM Lebron in the east.
Also, he will have a lot less pressure in the Cavs vs making a superteam in LA. The media will be more forgiving to his failures and he doesn't have to play under Kobe's shadow...
IF LEBRON Came to LA and failed, everyone would said, KOBE WOULD OF SUCCEEDED, etc and his legacy in the east was due to a crap conference for the past decade.
The amount of pressure Lebron will face here will be the most in his entire career.
Also, going back to the team structure itself, Lebron has always been the one constructing the teams and I highly doubt he wants to play with young players now or ever, unless it's his son |
1) Don't think LeBron is scared of the limelight or pressure of playing here
2) He wouldn't come here just to play with 20 year olds... others would come
3) Philly is in the East + the Bucks with a real coach are going to be a factor
4) If he won a ring or 2 in LA, his legacy would make a quantum leap forward |
He won't be scared if the superteam was assembled perfectly for him...
76ers still are far away and they will lose all their shooters this summer and the Bucks suck.
Lebron coming to LA would only work if everything else was in motion. He won't be the first piece to fall is my point and he won't come unless everything is certain. (Unless he doesn't really give a crap about basketball anymore and just cares to improve his brand,etc.) |
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rebirth Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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The icey relationship between gilbert and Lbj all but garuantees LBJ IS NOT..going back to Cle. _________________ “What is 17,505”
“Rest at the end not at the middle” |
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King Randle Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone else hear SAS say that CP3 has informed the Rockets that Bron has no interest in the Rockets? |
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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Freddie Buckets wrote: | 32 wrote: | Can we get a thread title update on Sam Amicks tweet? |
what did amick say? |
Quote: | "The place that has the most buzz right now definitely LA."
- @sam_amick on LeBron's to LA |
https://mobile.twitter.com/ESPNLosAngeles/status/1008864683233722368 _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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The Lebrons Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Lebron's on vacation, I doubt he's leaking anything, so pretty much everything we hear until July 1 is... |
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Amick is the solid one...USA Today...lives near Sacramento? Then the one everyone has doubted in the past is Amico? I think that is correct. |
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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The Lebrons wrote: | Lebron's on vacation, I doubt he's leaking anything, so pretty much everything we hear until July 1 is... |
Where did he go? I remember before he went back to the Cavs he went to the World cup _________________ Previously LBJ23 |
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: |
Amick is the solid one...USA Today...lives near Sacramento? Then the one everyone has doubted in the past is Amico? I think that is correct. |
Yes. Amick is near Sacramento. Amico is in Ohio. lol _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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Judah Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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King Randle wrote: | Anyone else hear SAS say that CP3 has informed the Rockets that Bron has no interest in the Rockets? |
I listened to it earlier and don't think that's what he said. He said that CP3 has been telling people (not the Rockets) that he doesn't want to go there because he wants to go to LA instead. _________________ “Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
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kwase Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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This is going to be a complete disaster if he comes here. Sticky my post. A spoiled, whiny brat that dribbles the ball for 20 out of 24 seconds and just throws the ball to someone if he can't bully his way to the basket. He's boring to watch, not to mention he's soft and acts like a 12 year old schoolgirl. |
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Judah Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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kawhileonard wrote: | vanexelent wrote: | kawhileonard wrote: | Lebron could always pick up his player option and try again with the cavs for another season.
Lebron will only come if the situation is perfect and already setup. (meaning pg13 is here and potentially leonard, trading for damien, etc.)
There is no way he will be the first domino to fall. |
Is Cleveland a perfect situation for him? |
Far from it. However, besides Boston, there really is no threat to TEAM Lebron in the east.
Also, he will have a lot less pressure in the Cavs vs making a superteam in LA. The media will be more forgiving to his failures and he doesn't have to play under Kobe's shadow...
IF LEBRON Came to LA and failed, everyone would said, KOBE WOULD OF SUCCEEDED, etc and his legacy in the east was due to a crap conference for the past decade.
The amount of pressure Lebron will face here will be the most in his entire career.
Also, going back to the team structure itself, Lebron has always been the one constructing the teams and I highly doubt he wants to play with young players now or ever, unless it's his son |
Where does this whole idea of some proverbial Kobe ”shadow” even come from and how does it work? I honestly don't even understand that concept. It's always seemed like one of those things that just gets thrown around and people assume what it means without anyone actually knowing. Regardless, LeBron is one of the greatest players of all time. Many would even say that he's already greater than Kobe ever was and he probably thinks that too. I don't think this proverbial shadow exists.
I also don't think LeBron is at all intimidated of playing for the Lakers. There was immense pressure with both Decision I (would've looked like a fool to desert his hometown for a star-studded team, only to walk away with just as many rings as he had when he left- zero) and Decision II (returning home arguably increased the pressure of finally winning at least one and ending the drought). LeBron doesn't run from pressure. He's been under a huge spotlight his entire career and people have always found something. I still remember the days pretty vividly when he was incessantly mocked for having never won a title.
I think this idea that all of a sudden LeBron is going to experience a level of pressure that he's never seen before in his career just because he would be playing for the Lakers is absurd. Laker fans like to say stuff like that just to be arrogant. But factually speaking, the Lakers have been stinking up the league for half a decade now. The pressure to win here won't be anything close to Decision I or II.
Also, what makes you think LeBron doesn't want to play with young players and ”never” has? What are you basing that on? _________________ “Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
- John Piper
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trablos Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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markjay wrote: | Here is my message to LeBron:
Would you like to win at least 4 more championships before you retire? That would put you ahead of Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, Magic, Kareem, and MJ. It would cement your legacy as the greatest of all time.
Here is how you can do it. We can have a lineup, starting in 2019, of
Ball-Ingram
George-Hart
Kawhi-Kuzma
LeBron-Randle
Lopez-M. Robinson
That lineup would be one of the strongest and deepest in NBA history. The only two players over 28 would be you and Lopez. The lineup could thus stay together the rest of your career with the Lakers, as PG and Kawhi play through their primes, and Ball, Ingram, Hart, Kuzma, and Randle play into their primes. You would have a great chance of winning 4+ championships before you retire.
There is one way to make it happen: Agree to a salary of $25 million, and convince, PG and Kawhi (starting in 2019) to do the same. The money that each of you will be giving up will be a drop in the bucket in relationship to the fortune and fame that you will achieve by being the NBA's greatest dynasty since the Bill Russell era.
Of course we may be able to acquire Kawhi earlier--and we will do our best to do so. However, there is no better way to pressure San Antonio to trade Kawhi to us this year than by convincing them and the league that, if they don't, we will sign him outright next year. The 25/25/25 plan can allow that to happen.
So, its your call. If you want the max, you have earned it, and we will pay it to you. But if you want the best possible path to 4 more championships and GOAT status, help us sign you, PG, and Kawhi, while retaining all our promising youth! |
You know, I didn't check the numbers, but this is a very logical idea. It's too bad that ego's will get in the way of stars taking paycuts to create something special. Look what the guys in GS did and it has paid (and will continue to) off. |
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | Maybe that’s why there has been talk of him coming to the Lakers to play with LeBron but if you are a Rocket fan, that hurts to hear. |
There goes Dreamshake's wish of getting Lebron.
When LBJ craps on your city and he's been a lifelong Akron/Cleveland resident.... |
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waterman40 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Eric P. had an interesting take (which he said is only his pure speculation) on Hollywood Hoops. That with Lebron coming here, Eric would not at all be surprised to see KCP back here, even at the expense of Randle. Well, I would be surprised, we would look like:
Lonzo/#25 or cheap vet. PG
PG13/Hart
Ingram/KCP
Lebron/whoever
Lopez/Zubac or Bryant
That's a lot of flexibilty with wings and defensive minded guys. _________________ LAKERS 2019-2020: NBA World Champions! |
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