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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:01 pm    Post subject:

USCandLakers wrote:
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So Irving is upset that his non playoff resume was tarnished by LBJ taking them to 3 Finals and a ring (and irving's game 7 game?). Talk about an ingrate.


LeBron "taking them" to 3 finals and a ring and being called an ingrate(the heck?) for not being appreciate of the king's presence is exactly the type of reason for why he wanted to get out and spread his wings. Dude gets no credit. He puts all that work in, outplays the unanimous MVP in the finals, and gets no credit.

And somehow LeBron up and bouncing from an organization that provided him with Finals teams in 4 consecutive years is okay. Like it's okay for him to do that but not for Kyrie to leave. Double standard.


No double standard in my book Kyrie can do whatever he feels is best for him but he has never out played Lebron. Lebron is the main reason why the cavs won, Kyrie is a good but hes not even close to lebron's level of play, maybe one day but not now.

Yeah. My point is Irving is vastly under appreciating or downplaying how much LBJ pulled the Cavs to the Finals. No doubt Irving hit a clutch shot and has played well in the Finals, but he's not getting there without LbJ. LBJ meanwhile dragged a crappy Cavs team to the Finals when he was what 21 years old?


Oh is that what he's doing? Or did you just completely make that up?


Lebron-to-Lakers/Uscandlakers suicide watch has officially begun.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:01 pm    Post subject:

Figured you are kidding about Melo. He sucks. Awful person to have on this team. Awful.


quote="dont_be_a_wuss"]
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So what's our title window if we get LeBron and another max player, 5-6 years?


Depends who that guy is and to what caliber level Ball/Ingram eventually reach.

Let's say it's Bron and PG, I think we've got 4-5 strong strong years and then beyond that we'd still be contenders for another 5-8 years if Ball and Ingram as as good as we hope.


And who knows, maybe we have Melo at that time too.[/quote]
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:11 am    Post subject:

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LeBron on his free agency, "I'm not going to give energy to something I can handle in the summertime" espn.com/espn/now?nowIdÖ
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:14 am    Post subject:

He gone.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:23 am    Post subject:

LeBron said he won't give energy during the season to discussing free agency. "It's my obligation to go about (the season), I'll approach it when the offseason comes."

LeBron James on Kyrie Irving: "I was ready to give him the keys...I tried to help him be as good as he could be...I don't have any advice for him now, you're either with us or against us...it was a gratifying three years together." He said he hasn't communicated with Irving since trade
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:51 am    Post subject:

No one asked him about the Lakers rumors, boo. Great job by Lebron, though, he shut the free agency talk down real quick.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:48 am    Post subject:

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He gone.


Oh why? What went wrong?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:51 am    Post subject:

Let it be. We have an exciting year to see Lonzo and Ingram and the kids play (as well as vets like Brook, KCP, Bogut, etc).

1 basketball year feels like an eternity but it'll be fun to get there.

There's no mistake though. Lonzo and company have to ball out or these 2 max level players won't pay any heed to the Lakers next year.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:54 am    Post subject:

https://twitter.com/AmicoHoops/status/912363551670579205
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:20 am    Post subject:

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He gone.


Oh why? What went wrong?


Reportedly the Cavs not returning the Knicks calls regarding Melo, one of Lebronís good friends.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:24 am    Post subject:

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He gone.


Oh why? What went wrong?


Reportedly the Cavs not returning the Knicks calls regarding Melo, one of Lebronís good friends.


Keep a close eye on the Wade situation if he goes elsewhere after LeBron has been reportedly recruiting him then that is the end of LeBron as a Cav.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:08 pm    Post subject:

levon wrote:
https://twitter.com/AmicoHoops/status/912363551670579205


Does this mean we aren't getting lebron?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:10 pm    Post subject:

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https://twitter.com/AmicoHoops/status/912363551670579205


Does this mean we aren't getting lebron?


No, it means he's supporting his home team team and the team he's currently in contract with, if LeBron gives any sort of hint about his departure, he will have a dark cloud on his Cavs season all year long.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:41 pm    Post subject:

Lebron was shown a 2014 quote where he said he wanted to retire a Cav and said that hasnít changed. No comments on between now and retirement day.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:03 pm    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
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fansincemagic wrote:
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He gone.


Oh why? What went wrong?


Reportedly the Cavs not returning the Knicks calls regarding Melo, one of Lebronís good friends.


Keep a close eye on the Wade situation if he goes elsewhere after LeBron has been reportedly recruiting him then that is the end of LeBron as a Cav.


Agreed. But I think Houston would have to be the favorites if hes willing to play a smaller role. He gets to play with a member of banana boat crew and win a lot of games. If he signs with us then our chances to sign Lebron next summer go up.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:22 pm    Post subject:

dont_be_a_wuss wrote:
levon wrote:
https://twitter.com/AmicoHoops/status/912363551670579205


Does this mean we aren't getting lebron?


that's what one day contracts are for
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:57 am    Post subject:

LeBron James has Dwyane Wade starting, he has Kevin Love, he has Isaiah Thomas

He has Derrick Rose, JR Smith and Jae Crowder coming off the bench.


There is NO EXCUSES for LeBron this year, there is no "We don't have enough, I don't have enough." this year. If LeBron doesn't get it done, I don't wanna hear any excuses whatsoever about him, or his team. The Cavaliers have gone above and beyond to give him what you could argue is the most complete team he's had.

So there's no room for excuses or "Cleveland didn't give me enough" blaming now.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:03 am    Post subject:

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LeBron James has Dwyane Wade starting, he has Kevin Love, he has Isaiah Thomas

He has Derrick Rose, JR Smith and Jae Crowder coming off the bench.


There is NO EXCUSES for LeBron this year, there is no "We don't have enough, I don't have enough." this year. If LeBron doesn't get it done, I don't wanna hear any excuses whatsoever about him, or his team. The Cavaliers have gone above and beyond to give him what you could argue is the most complete team he's had.

So there's no room for excuses or "Cleveland didn't give me enough" blaming now.


Problem is there is only 1 Ball
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:38 am    Post subject:

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LeBron James has Dwyane Wade starting, he has Kevin Love, he has Isaiah Thomas

He has Derrick Rose, JR Smith and Jae Crowder coming off the bench.


There is NO EXCUSES for LeBron this year, there is no "We don't have enough, I don't have enough." this year. If LeBron doesn't get it done, I don't wanna hear any excuses whatsoever about him, or his team. The Cavaliers have gone above and beyond to give him what you could argue is the most complete team he's had.

So there's no room for excuses or "Cleveland didn't give me enough" blaming now.


Problem is there is only 1 Ball


actually he has two brothers
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:40 am    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
LeBron James has Dwyane Wade starting, he has Kevin Love, he has Isaiah Thomas

He has Derrick Rose, JR Smith and Jae Crowder coming off the bench.


There is NO EXCUSES for LeBron this year, there is no "We don't have enough, I don't have enough." this year. If LeBron doesn't get it done, I don't wanna hear any excuses whatsoever about him, or his team. The Cavaliers have gone above and beyond to give him what you could argue is the most complete team he's had.

So there's no room for excuses or "Cleveland didn't give me enough" blaming now.


Wade's a corpse. We get it. You don't want him.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:12 am    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
LeBron James has Dwyane Wade starting, he has Kevin Love, he has Isaiah Thomas

He has Derrick Rose, JR Smith and Jae Crowder coming off the bench.


There is NO EXCUSES for LeBron this year, there is no "We don't have enough, I don't have enough." this year. If LeBron doesn't get it done, I don't wanna hear any excuses whatsoever about him, or his team. The Cavaliers have gone above and beyond to give him what you could argue is the most complete team he's had.

So there's no room for excuses or "Cleveland didn't give me enough" blaming now.


? None of those guys are all that great.

Just curious, which Lakers would you trade for the #2, #3, and #4 options on the Cavs?

That will tell you everything you need to know about how good you really believe they are.
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greenfrog wrote:
MJST wrote:
LeBron James has Dwyane Wade starting, he has Kevin Love, he has Isaiah Thomas

He has Derrick Rose, JR Smith and Jae Crowder coming off the bench.


There is NO EXCUSES for LeBron this year, there is no "We don't have enough, I don't have enough." this year. If LeBron doesn't get it done, I don't wanna hear any excuses whatsoever about him, or his team. The Cavaliers have gone above and beyond to give him what you could argue is the most complete team he's had.

So there's no room for excuses or "Cleveland didn't give me enough" blaming now.


Wade's a corpse. We get it. You don't want him.


Wade's just an addition.

LeBron has Isaiah Thomas and Kevin Love, he has Wade in addition to all that.

He also has Derrick Rose, Jr Smith and Jae Crowder coming off the bench.

There's no room for excuses this season or "I don't have enough." that's all I'm essentially saying. That means from ESPN to otherwise.

This ain't the year for "He doesn't have enough." excuses and as much as I hate the Cavs, they've put essentially everything around him and then some. Having Thomas and Love along with Derrick Rose, JR Smith and Crowder off the bench was enough as it was, but they got his best buddy Wade there too.

Also the "corpse" of Dwyane Wade was still an 18 ppg scorer last season... so yeah. That's a pretty lively one.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:16 am    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
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LeBron James has Dwyane Wade starting, he has Kevin Love, he has Isaiah Thomas

He has Derrick Rose, JR Smith and Jae Crowder coming off the bench.


There is NO EXCUSES for LeBron this year, there is no "We don't have enough, I don't have enough." this year. If LeBron doesn't get it done, I don't wanna hear any excuses whatsoever about him, or his team. The Cavaliers have gone above and beyond to give him what you could argue is the most complete team he's had.

So there's no room for excuses or "Cleveland didn't give me enough" blaming now.


Wade's a corpse. We get it. You don't want him.


Wade's just an addition.

LeBron has Isaiah Thomas and Kevin Love, he has Wade in addition to all that.

He also has Derrick Rose, Jr Smith and Jae Crowder coming off the bench.

There's no room for excuses this season or "I don't have enough." that's all I'm essentially saying. That means from ESPN to otherwise.

This ain't the year for "He doesn't have enough." excuses and as much as I hate the Cavs, they've put essentially everything around him and then some. Having Thomas and Love along with Derrick Rose, JR Smith and Crowder off the bench was enough as it was, but they got his best buddy Wade there too.

Also the "corpse" of Dwyane Wade was still an 18 ppg scorer last season... so yeah. That's a pretty lively one.

There's a team on the west coast with Durant, Curry, Draymond and Klay all in their primes so yeah...it's still not enough.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:16 am    Post subject:

ringfinger wrote:
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LeBron James has Dwyane Wade starting, he has Kevin Love, he has Isaiah Thomas

He has Derrick Rose, JR Smith and Jae Crowder coming off the bench.


There is NO EXCUSES for LeBron this year, there is no "We don't have enough, I don't have enough." this year. If LeBron doesn't get it done, I don't wanna hear any excuses whatsoever about him, or his team. The Cavaliers have gone above and beyond to give him what you could argue is the most complete team he's had.

So there's no room for excuses or "Cleveland didn't give me enough" blaming now.


? None of those guys are all that great.

Just curious, which Lakers would you trade for the #2, #3, and #4 options on the Cavs?

That will tell you everything you need to know about how good you really believe they are.


I'm not trading kids with a high upside not even a year into their careers for guys in their late 20s that have about 2-3 years left in their prime. That has nothing to do with "how good" they are, it has to do with how they're building vs how we're building.

So no, not as strawman or black and white.

I can do the same thing.

Who on our bench is better than Derrick Rose, JR Smith or Jae Crowder? And that should tell you all you need to know.

See what I mean?

When it comes down to it, LeBron has the best pieces and depth you could ask for in the East. Thomas and Love are legitimate all-stars and impact players, they just added Wade who despite being a "corpse" was an 18 ppg scorer last year. And as their 6th men, they have Derrick Rose, JR Smith and Jae Crowder.

That's some serious depth and probably the best team LeBron could ask for. Do you disagree with that?

BynumForThree wrote:

There's a team on the west coast with Durant, Curry, Draymond and Klay all in their primes so yeah...it's still not enough.


If they're healthy that's gonna be the case for the next 2-3 seasons regardless of what team we build, so that's irrelevant to the fact. All that would do is show that we won't be able to sell "You have a better chance to win a Championship here" as an idea because then you have to throw on "once the Warriors get old" at the end of it. Which is not really what you want to hear or do.
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