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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 6:32 am    Post subject:

I think Houston is only possible if the Cavs agree to sign and trade him, which would mean taking on bad contracts. It's better to lose him for nothing.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:10 am    Post subject:

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Lebron better take a huge paycut if he wants to convince Magic to let him play here. I'm not sure he is or was ever in Magics plans. I think its Pg, Randle and Max slot for next season.


If Lebron says he wants to come here and wants the max Magic will fall to his knees and sign him right there on the spot. It's obvious that's the plan, Randle will be sacrificed for 2 max slots, that's always been the plan.


at the beginning of the season, yes. But Randle has improved too much and more or less became a Draymond Green 2.0 overnight. Randle has shown he has a place on this team. He's the workhorse of a championship team.


totally agree. Now they will have to pay him more than they thought.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:12 am    Post subject:

It saddens me that we're probably desperate enough to max LeBron for the attention but he's not worth it. LeBron-ball did work but now he's older and still wants to get his instead of doing what's best for the team. I can only hope we don't sign him.
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It saddens me that we're probably desperate enough to max LeBron for the attention but he's not worth it. LeBron-ball did work but now he's older and still wants to get his instead of doing what's best for the team. I can only hope we don't sign him.


if we sign LBJ, it's not for attention. we get plenty of that.

i think he's at the point of his career where perhaps he'd be open to play off ball a bit more and giving his body a break. he's obviously not getting that in cleveland.

think about who's going to stop him when he curls, nobody. and most times he will end up taking 2 defenders with him leaving an open shooter.

i'm not sure signing lebron is the best move, but to say we're doing it for attention is far from accurate.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:23 am    Post subject:

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It saddens me that we're probably desperate enough to max LeBron for the attention but he's not worth it. LeBron-ball did work but now he's older and still wants to get his instead of doing what's best for the team. I can only hope we don't sign him.


if we sign LBJ, it's not for attention. we get plenty of that.

i think he's at the point of his career where perhaps he'd be open to play off ball a bit more and giving his body a break. he's obviously not getting that in cleveland.

think about who's going to stop him when he curls, nobody. and most times he will end up taking 2 defenders with him leaving an open shooter.

i'm not sure signing lebron is the best move, but to say we're doing it for attention is far from accurate.


Hard for me to believe that the guy who has played with Kyrie and Wade and still needed to get his wants to play off-ball. Obviously, we're probably the best option for his ego because nobody here including PG13 can threaten him for being the #1 option. Philly on the other hand has Simmons and Embiid. Embiid will probably be a monster next year as well.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:24 am    Post subject:

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It saddens me that we're probably desperate enough to max LeBron for the attention but he's not worth it. LeBron-ball did work but now he's older and still wants to get his instead of doing what's best for the team. I can only hope we don't sign him.


Lol youre crazy, LeBron is amazing and is playing his ass off.

Only reason why hes not going to the finals again is cos his team is garbage and hes playing a very hot team right now.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:26 am    Post subject:

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It saddens me that we're probably desperate enough to max LeBron for the attention but he's not worth it. LeBron-ball did work but now he's older and still wants to get his instead of doing what's best for the team. I can only hope we don't sign him.


Lol youre crazy, LeBron is amazing and is playing his ass off.

Only reason why hes not going to the finals again is cos his team is garbage and hes playing a very hot team right now.


Yeah. I'm surprised he got them this far. I thought for sure Toronto would beat them.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:30 am    Post subject:

He is so gone from the Cavs.
Lakers. 76ers. Rox. Will be his next destination.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:34 am    Post subject:

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It saddens me that we're probably desperate enough to max LeBron for the attention but he's not worth it. LeBron-ball did work but now he's older and still wants to get his instead of doing what's best for the team. I can only hope we don't sign him.


if we sign LBJ, it's not for attention. we get plenty of that.

i think he's at the point of his career where perhaps he'd be open to play off ball a bit more and giving his body a break. he's obviously not getting that in cleveland.

think about who's going to stop him when he curls, nobody. and most times he will end up taking 2 defenders with him leaving an open shooter.

i'm not sure signing lebron is the best move, but to say we're doing it for attention is far from accurate.


Hard for me to believe that the guy who has played with Kyrie and Wade and still needed to get his wants to play off-ball. Obviously, we're probably the best option for his ego because nobody here including PG13 can threaten him for being the #1 option. Philly on the other hand has Simmons and Embiid. Embiid will probably be a monster next year as well.



you didn't address your reasoning on how we would be signing LBJ for attention.

on the on-ball/off-ball issue. Kyrie handled the ball quite a bit as well during is CLE days, and that allowed LBJ to take plays off. He no longer has that luxury.

when he played with Wade, they started off by essentially sharing possessions, but that didn't work out well and LBJ became the primary guy, with Wade being a complementary ball handler.

if he comes here, we will have zo, BI, and most importantly an offensive scheme that isn't a stand and watch system. lazy basketball = ISO basketball with no off ball movement. that won't happen here i'm guessing.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:41 am    Post subject:

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It saddens me that we're probably desperate enough to max LeBron for the attention but he's not worth it. LeBron-ball did work but now he's older and still wants to get his instead of doing what's best for the team. I can only hope we don't sign him.


if we sign LBJ, it's not for attention. we get plenty of that.

i think he's at the point of his career where perhaps he'd be open to play off ball a bit more and giving his body a break. he's obviously not getting that in cleveland.

think about who's going to stop him when he curls, nobody. and most times he will end up taking 2 defenders with him leaving an open shooter.

i'm not sure signing lebron is the best move, but to say we're doing it for attention is far from accurate.


Hard for me to believe that the guy who has played with Kyrie and Wade and still needed to get his wants to play off-ball. Obviously, we're probably the best option for his ego because nobody here including PG13 can threaten him for being the #1 option. Philly on the other hand has Simmons and Embiid. Embiid will probably be a monster next year as well.



you didn't address your reasoning on how we would be signing LBJ for attention.

on the on-ball/off-ball issue. Kyrie handled the ball quite a bit as well during is CLE days, and that allowed LBJ to take plays off. He no longer has that luxury.

when he played with Wade, they started off by essentially sharing possessions, but that didn't work out well and LBJ became the primary guy, with Wade being a complementary ball handler.

if he comes here, we will have zo, BI, and most importantly an offensive scheme that isn't a stand and watch system. lazy basketball = ISO basketball with no off ball movement. that won't happen here i'm guessing.


I don't see any other reason to bring him here besides the fact that he's box-office. That's just my opinion.

LeBron-ball works until it doesn't, and I don't think it's the way to go right now. Everything you said is nice but I'm skeptical that happens. We also have young coach that doesn't necessarily have a lot pedigree to dictate things his way. LeBron wants to win but he wants all the credit with it. I think that's pretty obvious. I think he tanked the 2011 series because Wade was gonna win Finals MVP - it's still mind-boggling for him to take himself out of series like that. If he's here then I'll root him and the Lakers but I'd rather not have him.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:51 am    Post subject:

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He is so gone from the Cavs.
Lakers. 76ers. Rox. Will be his next destination.


Likely 76ers or Lakers.

I think Bron is smart in that he wont want to go somewhere where hes their last move.

The Rockets own no draft picks and have no young players to really trade. So if Bron goes there, theyre locked in. Its those 3 + Cappela (which is solid, for sure) and then just the MLE every year.

If basketball is his main focus - he goes to Philly. They could get him, have Embiid and Simmons and still have a TON of draft picks, Fultz and Saric as trade chips.

If he wants side biz stuff, or location for his family or wants his son playing HS hoops in CA, its LAL.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:54 am    Post subject:

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He is so gone from the Cavs.
Lakers. 76ers. Rox. Will be his next destination.


I said this the moment they made that trade with us.. Rob straight up out maneuvered the Cavs. They ended up with a roster worse than ours by taking our less desirable young guys and then giving us a pick.

D Wade, Thomas, Crowder, Frye, Derrick Rose turned into JC, Nance, Hood, George Hill.

I mean, come on. Who really thought that roster was going to keep LeBron. And maybe Cavs even made this move knowing he's gone but either way the writing has been on the wall since the Kyrie trade and the trade deadline further cemented that.

We just gotta let Rob and Magic do their things and hopefully he's a Laker 7-8 weeks...........
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:55 am    Post subject:

Lebron had a frickin 40 point triple double and played 39 minutes last night. What else can the man do. I still think it was unwise of him to play all 82 games this year. Just think of what he could do if he was more rested for the playoffs. The guy is an incredible athlete.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:07 am    Post subject:

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Lebron had a frickin 40 point triple double and played 39 minutes last night. What else can the man do. I still think it was unwise of him to play all 82 games this year. Just think of what he could do if he was more rested for the playoffs. The guy is an incredible athlete.


By not taking plays off. Harden had similar game and received a lot of criticism for it. Hard for LeBron's role players to get any type of rhythm when he plays like that.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:08 am    Post subject:

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I think Houston is only possible if the Cavs agree to sign and trade him, which would mean taking on bad contracts. It's better to lose him for nothing.

well if you lose Lebron you need to rebuild anyway so having bad contracts while you tank is no problem at all. And its not like star players will be lining up to play in Cleveland even if they can the cap space to sign them... they will need to first build up a good young core. So carrying a few bad contracts for 2 or so years in exchange for more 1st round picks would be a smart move.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:09 am    Post subject:

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Lebron had a frickin 40 point triple double and played 39 minutes last night. What else can the man do. I still think it was unwise of him to play all 82 games this year. Just think of what he could do if he was more rested for the playoffs. The guy is an incredible athlete.


By not taking plays off. Harden had similar game and received a lot of criticism for it. Hard for LeBron's role players to get any type of rhythm when he plays like that.


Probably fatigue.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:10 am    Post subject:

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I think Houston is only possible if the Cavs agree to sign and trade him, which would mean taking on bad contracts. It's better to lose him for nothing.

well if you lose Lebron you need to rebuild anyway so having bad contracts while you tank is no problem at all. And its not like star players will be lining up to play in Cleveland even if they can the cap space to sign them... they will need to first build up a good young core. So carrying a few bad contracts for 2 or so years in exchange for more 1st round picks would be a smart move.


Not if you’re paying luxury and repeater taxes for a non playoff team.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:10 am    Post subject:

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He is so gone from the Cavs.
Lakers. 76ers. Rox. Will be his next destination.


I said this the moment they made that trade with us.. Rob straight up out maneuvered the Cavs. They ended up with a roster worse than ours by taking our less desirable young guys and then giving us a pick.

D Wade, Thomas, Crowder, Frye, Derrick Rose turned into JC, Nance, Hood, George Hill.

I mean, come on. Who really thought that roster was going to keep LeBron. And maybe Cavs even made this move knowing he's gone but either way the writing has been on the wall since the Kyrie trade and the trade deadline further cemented that.

We just gotta let Rob and Magic do their things and hopefully he's a Laker 7-8 weeks...........


I'm pretty sure the Cavs original supporting cast even without IT would be doing better but they apparently improved by getting younger whatever that means. Really can't listen to these sports pundits anymore.

Getting Deandre may have been a better use of their 1st round pick.

Not complaining tho, I'm glad with the outcome.


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:13 am    Post subject:

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I cannot fathom anymore how he doesnt come. Its a sure thing at this point. Not sure what would need to happen that he doesnt come. Its his only chance to beat Golden State.


It is no chance to beat the Warriors
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If Lebron wants to come for the max you say “welcome aboard Mr. James”.


So you are willing to give him a 4 years max and get stuck paying him $30M+ at the age of 38 ? Is that a smart investment? Yes he's great today... but his decline is not far off, 2 years max at the top like this? His decline will be on our pay roll. We went through this with Kobe not long ago, but Kobe was ours and we can argue that the organization owed it to him, we don't owe Lebron anything.


It would be more like $40 mil. We would be in the playoffs, the media would write how great our FO is, and they would bask in the glory. Short of being a contender, what could be better?
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:21 am    Post subject:

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It saddens me that we're probably desperate enough to max LeBron for the attention but he's not worth it. LeBron-ball did work but now he's older and still wants to get his instead of doing what's best for the team. I can only hope we don't sign him.


Lol youre crazy, LeBron is amazing and is playing his ass off.

Only reason why hes not going to the finals again is cos his team is garbage and hes playing a very hot team right now.


Plus he hasn’t played defense in two years.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:13 am    Post subject:

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It saddens me that we're probably desperate enough to max LeBron for the attention but he's not worth it. LeBron-ball did work but now he's older and still wants to get his instead of doing what's best for the team. I can only hope we don't sign him.


Attention? What are the Lakers? Some 13 y/o girl? They are signing him because he is the best basketball player in the world. Geez.
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It saddens me that we're probably desperate enough to max LeBron for the attention but he's not worth it. LeBron-ball did work but now he's older and still wants to get his instead of doing what's best for the team. I can only hope we don't sign him.


Attention? What are the Lakers? Some 13 y/o girl? They are signing him because he is the best basketball player in the world. Geez.


I disagree that he is but will agree that the best wouldn’t consider signing here.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:33 am    Post subject:

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D Wade, Thomas, Crowder, Frye, Derrick Rose turned into JC, Nance, Hood, George Hill.

I mean, come on. Who really thought that roster was going to keep LeBron.



There wasn't a slam-dunk, no brainer way for them to improve, but I was impressed by the moves they made. They gave up old guys and pieces that didn't fit and all they gave up of substance was the #25 draft pick.

That said, it's hard to make so many moves during a season and gell. But I don't see that if they had stood pat they'd be in a better position right now. If Lebron leaves, they're going to suck for a while, and that #25 pick is unlikely to be a difference-maker.

I'd say the trade made sense for them, and for us.
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As long as he understands its Lavar's team and he's willing to defer to LiAngelo and LaMelo, he is more than welcome lol.
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