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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:55 pm    Post subject:

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The long and the short of it is McGregor had no business in the ring against a boxer. If Floyd doesn't carry him, or if he's fighting a guy with any power at all, this is a quick fight.


I agree, and one outcome of this fight that I am not pleased with is many younger MMA fans saw Mayweather for the first time.....and this was not close to prime Mayweather. It reminds me of those who only got to see Jordan in a Wizards uniform, and formulate an opinion over what they witnessed. Prime Money Mayweather embarrasses McGregor....and that is not a shot at McGregor, but Floyd was simply one of the greatest to ever box, and McGregor is not a boxer.
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I love MMA more than boxing. But there couldn't have been better conditions for a MMA/Boxing crossover:

McGregor was Younger
Taller
Bigger reach
More athletic
Fighting a defensive oriented fighter
Fighting a guy whose past his prime
Fighting a guy whose plan was to let him last late into the fight

Had this been against a dude closer to McGregor's size and age he would have gotten destroyed from jump and it wouldn't have been pretty. I see a lot of MMA guys on Twitter wanting more crossovers and I think inevitably someone will get embarrassed. It would be the same thing if boxers tried to go into the Octagon.

McGregor did well and it was fun, but it should end here.
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Omar Little wrote:
The long and the short of it is McGregor had no business in the ring against a boxer. If Floyd doesn't carry him, or if he's fighting a guy with any power at all, this is a quick fight.


I agree, and one outcome of this fight that I am not pleased with is many younger MMA fans saw Mayweather for the first time.....and this was not close to prime Mayweather. It reminds me of those who only got to see Jordan in a Wizards uniform, and formulate an opinion over what they witnessed. Prime Money Mayweather embarrasses McGregor....and that is not a shot at McGregor, but Floyd was simply one of the greatest to ever box, and McGregor is not a boxer.


It's like when a retired NBA great (Magic, Michael, Kobe) plays the best kid at their summer camp and just lets the kid take open jumpshots 1 on 1. Sure that kid might score 6 or 7 points. But they had 0 chance of winning. And if a prime version of that retired legend was playing that kid in a game-time mode. The kid might only be able to dribble once or twice without being stripped and dunked on.
Well McGregor did put in the work and has a history in boxing. So maybe a better metaphor is he's one of the camp counselors. Like an all-American high schooler. Still has no chance against an over the hill legend. Let alone a prime version of a legend.
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Omar Little wrote:
The long and the short of it is McGregor had no business in the ring against a boxer. If Floyd doesn't carry him, or if he's fighting a guy with any power at all, this is a quick fight.


I agree, and one outcome of this fight that I am not pleased with is many younger MMA fans saw Mayweather for the first time.....and this was not close to prime Mayweather. It reminds me of those who only got to see Jordan in a Wizards uniform, and formulate an opinion over what they witnessed. Prime Money Mayweather embarrasses McGregor....and that is not a shot at McGregor, but Floyd was simply one of the greatest to ever box, and McGregor is not a boxer.


Exactly, this was all about intrigue (if one of best MMA knock out fighter can do it) and of course the showmanship... excellent promotion by both camp, highly entertaining
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The long and the short of it is McGregor had no business in the ring against a boxer. If Floyd doesn't carry him, or if he's fighting a guy with any power at all, this is a quick fight.


Doesn't belong, really? For $30 million dollars he belongs.
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Omar Little wrote:
The long and the short of it is McGregor had no business in the ring against a boxer. If Floyd doesn't carry him, or if he's fighting a guy with any power at all, this is a quick fight.


Doesn't belong, really? For $30 million dollars he belongs.


Closer to $100 million. Both guys won. The suckers are the ones who paid to watch it.
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Omar Little wrote:
The long and the short of it is McGregor had no business in the ring against a boxer. If Floyd doesn't carry him, or if he's fighting a guy with any power at all, this is a quick fight.


Doesn't belong, really? For $30 million dollars he belongs.


Closer to $100 million. Both guys won. The suckers are the ones who paid to watch it.


Nah. Boxing wise, might be mediocre but this was one of the best show
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governator wrote:
Hector the Pup wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
The long and the short of it is McGregor had no business in the ring against a boxer. If Floyd doesn't carry him, or if he's fighting a guy with any power at all, this is a quick fight.


Doesn't belong, really? For $30 million dollars he belongs.


Closer to $100 million. Both guys won. The suckers are the ones who paid to watch it.


Nah. Boxing wise, might be mediocre but this was one of the best show


It was a good show, promoted well, entertaining fight, water cooler talk for monday morning, no one got hurt, mayweather won, Mcgregor earns respect, both sides make millions, UFC and Boxing both won, fans got their money's worth, I see nothing wrong with the event. Didn't really prove much. A boxer is better at boxing, and an MMA fighter is better in the octagon.

Now that this circus event is over, the real fight of the year is the one around the corner...GGG vs Canelo. Will be one of the best fights in recent memory. And it won't go the distance.
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Ted wrote:
governator wrote:
Hector the Pup wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
The long and the short of it is McGregor had no business in the ring against a boxer. If Floyd doesn't carry him, or if he's fighting a guy with any power at all, this is a quick fight.


Doesn't belong, really? For $30 million dollars he belongs.


Closer to $100 million. Both guys won. The suckers are the ones who paid to watch it.


Nah. Boxing wise, might be mediocre but this was one of the best show


It was a good show, promoted well, entertaining fight, water cooler talk for monday morning, no one got hurt, mayweather won, Mcgregor earns respect, both sides make millions, UFC and Boxing both won, fans got their money's worth, I see nothing wrong with the event. Didn't really prove much. A boxer is better at boxing, and an MMA fighter is better in the octagon.

Now that this circus event is over, the real fight of the year is the one around the corner...GGG vs Canelo. Will be one of the best fights in recent memory. And it won't go the distance.
the truth is, we already knew and know the first part. a real life legendary champion boxer is a better than a champion MMA fighter at boxing. But what we dont know is if a champion legendary boxer is better in the octagon than a so called MMA fighter.

MMA = styles make fights too. just like boxing.

here's the deal. chuck liddel = more or less a boxer in a MMA octagon right? yes i know he could kick too. but lets be honest. we know what he was known for...knocking guys out with his fist. setting the entire thing up with his fists. you pull any highlights and just about all of them will be chuck chin checking someone.

can't the same be said for mcgregor? sure he does kick more than chuck ever did to my knowledge but he's still a standup guy for the most part. you have stand up borderline boxer strikers defeating other mixed martial artists. guys that are not great at standing up and fighting. This tells me, that if you get champion level boxers in that ring, especially anyone with power. they could take over most of your MMA fights. because they are more precise with their punches and since they train to only hit heads and body shots. they are specialist at that. sure if you get them in a lock its a wrap. but you have to get up on them. and too many of them with power will KO you if you try that. sure they can get up on some MMA guy that is known for striking/boxing. but they can't do that will real life champion boxers. it seems to me professional championship caliber boxers would win more mma fights than mma guys would win boxing matches and i dont think its even close. and one more thing..i think to become and remain a champion boxer you need a chin. This means even when they get rocked in the mma they wont go down like you see these guys going down vs mcgregor or even chuck back in his bouts.

yes i'm saying a lot of MMA guys have no chin or shaky chins. and a lot of mma guys dont have any real power behind their punches since they are not trained boxers. in addition you dont get picked up and trained to be a mma guy if you have super punching power. you are trained to be a boxer if thats the case.
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Ted wrote:
governator wrote:
Hector the Pup wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
The long and the short of it is McGregor had no business in the ring against a boxer. If Floyd doesn't carry him, or if he's fighting a guy with any power at all, this is a quick fight.


Doesn't belong, really? For $30 million dollars he belongs.


Closer to $100 million. Both guys won. The suckers are the ones who paid to watch it.


Nah. Boxing wise, might be mediocre but this was one of the best show


It was a good show, promoted well, entertaining fight, water cooler talk for monday morning, no one got hurt, mayweather won, Mcgregor earns respect, both sides make millions, UFC and Boxing both won, fans got their money's worth, I see nothing wrong with the event. Didn't really prove much. A boxer is better at boxing, and an MMA fighter is better in the octagon.

Now that this circus event is over, the real fight of the year is the one around the corner...GGG vs Canelo. Will be one of the best fights in recent memory. And it won't go the distance.
the truth is, we already knew and know the first part. a real life legendary champion boxer is a better than a champion MMA fighter at boxing. But what we dont know is if a champion legendary boxer is better in the octagon than a so called MMA fighter.

MMA = styles make fights too. just like boxing.

here's the deal. chuck liddel = more or less a boxer in a MMA octagon right? yes i know he could kick too. but lets be honest. we know what he was known for...knocking guys out with his fist. setting the entire thing up with his fists. you pull any highlights and just about all of them will be chuck chin checking someone.

can't the same be said for mcgregor? sure he does kick more than chuck ever did to my knowledge but he's still a standup guy for the most part. you have stand up borderline boxer strikers defeating other mixed martial artists. guys that are not great at standing up and fighting. This tells me, that if you get champion level boxers in that ring, especially anyone with power. they could take over most of your MMA fights. because they are more precise with their punches and since they train to only hit heads and body shots. they are specialist at that. sure if you get them in a lock its a wrap. but you have to get up on them. and too many of them with power will KO you if you try that. sure they can get up on some MMA guy that is known for striking/boxing. but they can't do that will real life champion boxers. it seems to me professional championship caliber boxers would win more mma fights than mma guys would win boxing matches and i dont think its even close. and one more thing..i think to become and remain a champion boxer you need a chin. This means even when they get rocked in the mma they wont go down like you see these guys going down vs mcgregor or even chuck back in his bouts.

yes i'm saying a lot of MMA guys have no chin or shaky chins. and a lot of mma guys dont have any real power behind their punches since they are not trained boxers. in addition you dont get picked up and trained to be a mma guy if you have super punching power. you are trained to be a boxer if thats the case.
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governator wrote:
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Boxing was a great sport growing up when I was a kid but mma is better and has been better for a long time.

This is mostly likely the last boxing fight I watch
yall said that after Pacman vs Mayweather.

yall will come to watch again if old man may has another bout with someone else. most people hate may so much they wish anyone would KO him. so they were willing to spend 100 bucks in hopes an non professional boxer woudl do the job. lol.


Mayweather vs GGG... I'll watch that
Why? just to see a young guy beat up an old man? whats the point. i dont get some boxing fans that like to watch legends fight forever, all the way past their primes when you already know if the next guy wins you can't say "but he beat mayweather." no he didnt. he beat mayweathers grandfather. thats not the same thing. that aint hte may we're talking about. that aint prime may. he probablyw ould not have stood a chance vs prime may. thats the point. stop hoping guys get pitted against one another when one guy is clearly in his prime while the other is way beyond his but has SOME skill left. that aint no boxing match. waiting to see the old dog get beat up. its happened to all of our favorite guys basically. I dont need to see that again. get out on top and stay out. let the young guys fight one another.
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splashmtn wrote:
Ted wrote:
governator wrote:
Hector the Pup wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
The long and the short of it is McGregor had no business in the ring against a boxer. If Floyd doesn't carry him, or if he's fighting a guy with any power at all, this is a quick fight.


Doesn't belong, really? For $30 million dollars he belongs.


Closer to $100 million. Both guys won. The suckers are the ones who paid to watch it.


Nah. Boxing wise, might be mediocre but this was one of the best show


It was a good show, promoted well, entertaining fight, water cooler talk for monday morning, no one got hurt, mayweather won, Mcgregor earns respect, both sides make millions, UFC and Boxing both won, fans got their money's worth, I see nothing wrong with the event. Didn't really prove much. A boxer is better at boxing, and an MMA fighter is better in the octagon.

Now that this circus event is over, the real fight of the year is the one around the corner...GGG vs Canelo. Will be one of the best fights in recent memory. And it won't go the distance.
the truth is, we already knew and know the first part. a real life legendary champion boxer is a better than a champion MMA fighter at boxing. But what we dont know is if a champion legendary boxer is better in the octagon than a so called MMA fighter.

MMA = styles make fights too. just like boxing.

here's the deal. chuck liddel = more or less a boxer in a MMA octagon right? yes i know he could kick too. but lets be honest. we know what he was known for...knocking guys out with his fist. setting the entire thing up with his fists. you pull any highlights and just about all of them will be chuck chin checking someone.

can't the same be said for mcgregor? sure he does kick more than chuck ever did to my knowledge but he's still a standup guy for the most part. you have stand up borderline boxer strikers defeating other mixed martial artists. guys that are not great at standing up and fighting. This tells me, that if you get champion level boxers in that ring, especially anyone with power. they could take over most of your MMA fights. because they are more precise with their punches and since they train to only hit heads and body shots. they are specialist at that. sure if you get them in a lock its a wrap. but you have to get up on them. and too many of them with power will KO you if you try that. sure they can get up on some MMA guy that is known for striking/boxing. but they can't do that will real life champion boxers. it seems to me professional championship caliber boxers would win more mma fights than mma guys would win boxing matches and i dont think its even close. and one more thing..i think to become and remain a champion boxer you need a chin. This means even when they get rocked in the mma they wont go down like you see these guys going down vs mcgregor or even chuck back in his bouts.

yes i'm saying a lot of MMA guys have no chin or shaky chins. and a lot of mma guys dont have any real power behind their punches since they are not trained boxers. in addition you dont get picked up and trained to be a mma guy if you have super punching power. you are trained to be a boxer if thats the case.


These guys go into boxing because there is more $$$ in boxing than in MMA. Kell Brook made $5 million in his last fight. Most casual fans have no idea who he is. Conor McGregor made $3 million in his last fight in the UFC, and he's their biggest superstar. If someone like Gennady Golovkin or Canelo Alvarez trained takedown defense for a year or two and some simple MMA moves, they would be wrecking balls in the octagon. But the pay is so little, it's not worth getting kicked in the head for.
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Hector the Pup wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
The long and the short of it is McGregor had no business in the ring against a boxer. If Floyd doesn't carry him, or if he's fighting a guy with any power at all, this is a quick fight.


Doesn't belong, really? For $30 million dollars he belongs.


Closer to $100 million. Both guys won. The suckers are the ones who paid to watch it.

I thought Money May got 100 million and McGregor 30 million?
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jodeke wrote:
Hector the Pup wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
The long and the short of it is McGregor had no business in the ring against a boxer. If Floyd doesn't carry him, or if he's fighting a guy with any power at all, this is a quick fight.


Doesn't belong, really? For $30 million dollars he belongs.


Closer to $100 million. Both guys won. The suckers are the ones who paid to watch it.

I thought Money May got 100 million and McGregor 30 million?


That's garunteed money. Endorsements and PPV points (which is potentially the lionshare) will drive those to astronomical heights.


Btw, lot of horridic takes. Keep on keeping on! (bleep) me.
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Omar Little wrote:
The long and the short of it is McGregor had no business in the ring against a boxer. If Floyd doesn't carry him, or if he's fighting a guy with any power at all, this is a quick fight.


Doesn't belong, really? For $30 million dollars he belongs.


If they paid you to get in the ring, would it mean you belong there? Ones got nothing to do with the other.
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Apparently the PPV buys totaled $1Billion
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jodeke wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
The long and the short of it is McGregor had no business in the ring against a boxer. If Floyd doesn't carry him, or if he's fighting a guy with any power at all, this is a quick fight.


Doesn't belong, really? For $30 million dollars he belongs.


If they paid you to get in the ring, would it mean you belong there? Ones got nothing to do with the other.


C'mon man. Of course not, he's a novelty. I thought you'd see the sarcasm.
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jodeke wrote:
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jodeke wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
The long and the short of it is McGregor had no business in the ring against a boxer. If Floyd doesn't carry him, or if he's fighting a guy with any power at all, this is a quick fight.


Doesn't belong, really? For $30 million dollars he belongs.


If they paid you to get in the ring, would it mean you belong there? Ones got nothing to do with the other.


C'mon man. Of course not, he's a novelty. I thought you'd see the sarcasm.


Ah, gotcha. Thought maybe you had rolled the rascal scooter over your air line.
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Hector the Pup wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
The long and the short of it is McGregor had no business in the ring against a boxer. If Floyd doesn't carry him, or if he's fighting a guy with any power at all, this is a quick fight.


Doesn't belong, really? For $30 million dollars he belongs.


Closer to $100 million. Both guys won. The suckers are the ones who paid to watch it.


Nah. Boxing wise, might be mediocre but this was one of the best show


It was a good show, promoted well, entertaining fight, water cooler talk for monday morning, no one got hurt, mayweather won, Mcgregor earns respect, both sides make millions, UFC and Boxing both won, fans got their money's worth, I see nothing wrong with the event. Didn't really prove much. A boxer is better at boxing, and an MMA fighter is better in the octagon.

Now that this circus event is over, the real fight of the year is the one around the corner...GGG vs Canelo. Will be one of the best fights in recent memory. And it won't go the distance.
the truth is, we already knew and know the first part. a real life legendary champion boxer is a better than a champion MMA fighter at boxing. But what we dont know is if a champion legendary boxer is better in the octagon than a so called MMA fighter.

MMA = styles make fights too. just like boxing.

here's the deal. chuck liddel = more or less a boxer in a MMA octagon right? yes i know he could kick too. but lets be honest. we know what he was known for...knocking guys out with his fist. setting the entire thing up with his fists. you pull any highlights and just about all of them will be chuck chin checking someone.

can't the same be said for mcgregor? sure he does kick more than chuck ever did to my knowledge but he's still a standup guy for the most part. you have stand up borderline boxer strikers defeating other mixed martial artists. guys that are not great at standing up and fighting. This tells me, that if you get champion level boxers in that ring, especially anyone with power. they could take over most of your MMA fights. because they are more precise with their punches and since they train to only hit heads and body shots. they are specialist at that. sure if you get them in a lock its a wrap. but you have to get up on them. and too many of them with power will KO you if you try that. sure they can get up on some MMA guy that is known for striking/boxing. but they can't do that will real life champion boxers. it seems to me professional championship caliber boxers would win more mma fights than mma guys would win boxing matches and i dont think its even close. and one more thing..i think to become and remain a champion boxer you need a chin. This means even when they get rocked in the mma they wont go down like you see these guys going down vs mcgregor or even chuck back in his bouts.

yes i'm saying a lot of MMA guys have no chin or shaky chins. and a lot of mma guys dont have any real power behind their punches since they are not trained boxers. in addition you dont get picked up and trained to be a mma guy if you have super punching power. you are trained to be a boxer if thats the case.


Sorry PnP it doesn't work like man.

Pure boxing fundamentals don't translate over to MMA. Sure there are lots of techniques that do transfer and it's a terrific base to start from, but any pure boxer coming over to MMA will need a solid base in several other disciplines to be competitive. Just as would an MMA fighter would need a lot of training to be competitive in boxing.

All those instances where the ref had to step in and break up McGregor and Floyd would not happen in MMA. Completely different game.

It's insult to either sport to think that it would be easy for athletes to cross over.
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Apparently the PPV buys totaled $1Billion


Is that a accurate figure or an exaggeration? Seems exorbitant.
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Apparently the PPV buys totaled $1Billion


Is that a accurate figure or an exaggeration? Seems exorbitant.


Estimate so possibly inflated.

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While the theatrical rollout was a win, the total earnings will pale in comparison with those from PPV, even after taking a hit from those impacted by the glitch. Official numbers for PPV earnings will be available later in the week, but early estimates showed the match could reap as much as $1 billion in revenues.


http://variety.com/2017/film/news/mayweather-mcgregor-box-office-1202539950/
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:31 am    Post subject:

Was a better fight than I expected. Mayweather knew exactly what he had to do in order to win and he executed perfectly. I think if they did it 10 times, Mayweather would win 10 out of 10.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:33 am    Post subject:

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Apparently the PPV buys totaled $1Billion


Is that a accurate figure or an exaggeration? Seems exorbitant.


Estimate so possibly inflated.

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While the theatrical rollout was a win, the total earnings will pale in comparison with those from PPV, even after taking a hit from those impacted by the glitch. Official numbers for PPV earnings will be available later in the week, but early estimates showed the match could reap as much as $1 billion in revenues.


http://variety.com/2017/film/news/mayweather-mcgregor-box-office-1202539950/


WOW!!! Say what you will about Mayweather he's earned his nickname MoneyMay. I wonder where he ranks in most money made by a athlete?

I hope his demeanor in his last interview is a indication of how he'll present himself in the future. He wasn't braggadocios, trying to sell something.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:34 am    Post subject:

I don't get the comments about fans getting their money's worth. The fight was so damn boring. Good thing I didn't buy it. Complete waste of money
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:37 am    Post subject:

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I don't get the comments about fans getting their money's worth. The fight was so damn boring. Good thing I didn't buy it. Complete waste of money

Have you seen the fight?
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