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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:19 am    Post subject: Amazon to aquire Whole Foods

Wow, I can't say I saw this coming.

Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods in $13.7 Billion Bet on Groceries

Maybe Jeff Bezos wanted to meet some Laker players.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:30 am    Post subject:

Do I still keep not shopping there?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:42 am    Post subject:

Time to get some amazon chips... they just got their new (actually pre-existing) warehouse for their grocery dept... same day delivery just got that much cheaper for amazon
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:03 am    Post subject:

Wow. Mind blown.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:19 am    Post subject:

Yeah, me too ChefLinda.

You know, at first blush it seems like a stupid move, in that Whole Foods is not doing well, and acquiring this dinosaur seems dilutive, in terms of earnings.

But then Amazon is really a supply chain company disguised as a retailer. I wonder if Bezos is going to re-engineer the grocery supply chain, to the point where margins will become fat, delivery to customers optimized, and even get into what I call the "value-added" grocery delivery business (Blue Apron, Plated, etc.) where meals and recipes are parceled for better margins, while giving customers better meal planning, healthier meals, and less food waste.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:20 am    Post subject:

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Yeah, me too ChefLinda.

You know, at first blush it seems like a stupid move, in that Whole Foods is not doing well, and acquiring this dinosaur seems dilutive, in terms of earnings.

But then Amazon is really a supply chain company disguised as a retailer. I wonder if Bezos is going to re-engineer the grocery supply chain, to the point where margins will become fat, delivery to customers optimized, and even get into what I call the "value-added" grocery delivery business (Blue Apron, Plated, etc.) where meals and recipes are parceled for better margins, while giving customers better meal planning, healthier meals, and less food waste.


I agree with your assessment. There are parts of this that could help my business, and parts that could hurt my business. Too soon to tell. I have a specific niche clientele, so it's probably a wash.

They were obviously moving toward more same-day delivery. My bet is they utilize Whole Foods warehousing/distribution for much more than food.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:37 am    Post subject:

Its the name.

It may be pricey, but it does covey quality.

Maybe with Amazon it won't be quite Whole Paycheck anymore, at least with Amazon Prime?

In terms of logistics, I am guessing here that I agree they are buying the infrastructucture and maybe getting into the home cooking game. They are already trying the grocery home delivery thing. Now they can slap a whole foods logo on all that.

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Yeah, me too ChefLinda.

You know, at first blush it seems like a stupid move, in that Whole Foods is not doing well, and acquiring this dinosaur seems dilutive, in terms of earnings.

But then Amazon is really a supply chain company disguised as a retailer. I wonder if Bezos is going to re-engineer the grocery supply chain, to the point where margins will become fat, delivery to customers optimized, and even get into what I call the "value-added" grocery delivery business (Blue Apron, Plated, etc.) where meals and recipes are parceled for better margins, while giving customers better meal planning, healthier meals, and less food waste.


I agree with your assessment. There are parts of this that could help my business, and parts that could hurt my business. Too soon to tell. I have a specific niche clientele, so it's probably a wash.

They were obviously moving toward more same-day delivery. My bet is they utilize Whole Foods warehousing/distribution for much more than food.



I'm glad it'll probably be a wash for your business. But I don't think this is a good thing for the US consumer.

Retail sales are coalescing around two giants. Walmart for the growing underclass, and Amazon for the aspirationals, and upper-middle classes.

Look at all the store closings and retail industry bankruptcies. Domestic shopping patters have changed. Retail will remain physical for certain needs or consumers defined by certain demographics, while other consumers will peruse and purchase goods via augmented reality and virtual reality, replacing brick and mortar.

This coalescing is going to lead to unfair advantages in terms of new opportunities. It's funny, as I read an article that blasted the Millenials (an easy scapegoat nowadays) as being too lazy to start businesses. Frankly, the American Dream of starting a business is getting slaughtered. As retail consolidates around supply chain and technological dominance, the ability to successfully launch new products becomes increasingly problematic.
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angrypuppy wrote:
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angrypuppy wrote:
Yeah, me too ChefLinda.

You know, at first blush it seems like a stupid move, in that Whole Foods is not doing well, and acquiring this dinosaur seems dilutive, in terms of earnings.

But then Amazon is really a supply chain company disguised as a retailer. I wonder if Bezos is going to re-engineer the grocery supply chain, to the point where margins will become fat, delivery to customers optimized, and even get into what I call the "value-added" grocery delivery business (Blue Apron, Plated, etc.) where meals and recipes are parceled for better margins, while giving customers better meal planning, healthier meals, and less food waste.


I agree with your assessment. There are parts of this that could help my business, and parts that could hurt my business. Too soon to tell. I have a specific niche clientele, so it's probably a wash.

They were obviously moving toward more same-day delivery. My bet is they utilize Whole Foods warehousing/distribution for much more than food.



I'm glad it'll probably be a wash for your business. But I don't think this is a good thing for the US consumer.

Retail sales are coalescing around two giants. Walmart for the growing underclass, and Amazon for the aspirationals, and upper-middle classes.

Look at all the store closings and retail industry bankruptcies. Domestic shopping patters have changed. Retail will remain physical for certain needs or consumers defined by certain demographics, while other consumers will peruse and purchase goods via augmented reality and virtual reality, replacing brick and mortar.

This coalescing is going to lead to unfair advantages in terms of new opportunities. It's funny, as I read an article that blasted the Millenials (an easy scapegoat nowadays) as being too lazy to start businesses. Frankly, the American Dream of starting a business is getting slaughtered. As retail consolidates around supply chain and technological dominance, the ability to successfully launch new products becomes increasingly problematic.


Have you been in a mall lately? It seems dead and sad in there.

Blaming millennials for all the ills of the world is such a cop out. They would have nothing to do with it if the previous generations hadn't left the world in the state it is now.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:48 am    Post subject:

ChefLinda wrote:
angrypuppy wrote:
Yeah, me too ChefLinda.

You know, at first blush it seems like a stupid move, in that Whole Foods is not doing well, and acquiring this dinosaur seems dilutive, in terms of earnings.

But then Amazon is really a supply chain company disguised as a retailer. I wonder if Bezos is going to re-engineer the grocery supply chain, to the point where margins will become fat, delivery to customers optimized, and even get into what I call the "value-added" grocery delivery business (Blue Apron, Plated, etc.) where meals and recipes are parceled for better margins, while giving customers better meal planning, healthier meals, and less food waste.


I agree with your assessment. There are parts of this that could help my business, and parts that could hurt my business. Too soon to tell. I have a specific niche clientele, so it's probably a wash.

They were obviously moving toward more same-day delivery. My bet is they utilize Whole Foods warehousing/distribution for much more than food.


I spend a lot of time in Boston, as my brothers live there as well as many friends. Any chance of finding out what business this is and if it is one someone like me can visit and patronize?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:59 am    Post subject:

I will just never have my groceries delivered. But I'm sure most would.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:01 am    Post subject:

It's always better to pick and choose the produce you are going to purchase.
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encina1 wrote:
angrypuppy wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
angrypuppy wrote:
Yeah, me too ChefLinda.

You know, at first blush it seems like a stupid move, in that Whole Foods is not doing well, and acquiring this dinosaur seems dilutive, in terms of earnings.

But then Amazon is really a supply chain company disguised as a retailer. I wonder if Bezos is going to re-engineer the grocery supply chain, to the point where margins will become fat, delivery to customers optimized, and even get into what I call the "value-added" grocery delivery business (Blue Apron, Plated, etc.) where meals and recipes are parceled for better margins, while giving customers better meal planning, healthier meals, and less food waste.


I agree with your assessment. There are parts of this that could help my business, and parts that could hurt my business. Too soon to tell. I have a specific niche clientele, so it's probably a wash.

They were obviously moving toward more same-day delivery. My bet is they utilize Whole Foods warehousing/distribution for much more than food.



I'm glad it'll probably be a wash for your business. But I don't think this is a good thing for the US consumer.

Retail sales are coalescing around two giants. Walmart for the growing underclass, and Amazon for the aspirationals, and upper-middle classes.

Look at all the store closings and retail industry bankruptcies. Domestic shopping patters have changed. Retail will remain physical for certain needs or consumers defined by certain demographics, while other consumers will peruse and purchase goods via augmented reality and virtual reality, replacing brick and mortar.

This coalescing is going to lead to unfair advantages in terms of new opportunities. It's funny, as I read an article that blasted the Millenials (an easy scapegoat nowadays) as being too lazy to start businesses. Frankly, the American Dream of starting a business is getting slaughtered. As retail consolidates around supply chain and technological dominance, the ability to successfully launch new products becomes increasingly problematic.


Have you been in a mall lately? It seems dead and sad in there.

Blaming millennials for all the ills of the world is such a cop out. They would have nothing to do with it if the previous generations hadn't left the world in the state it is now.


Online shopping goes beyond borders. Either evolve or die. Walmart is doing better than most retail not only because of its size but also because they are adopting the online business model better than most other retail. Been to a Walmart recently? They have setup online pickups in the store where you get a discount for shopping online. Their prices are the same as Amazon.
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https://twitter.com/chicagophotosho/status/875708981511163905
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Online shopping goes beyond borders. Either evolve or die. Walmart is doing better than most retail not only because of its size but also because they are adopting the online business model better than most other retail. Been to a Walmart recently? They have setup online pickups in the store where you get a discount for shopping online. Their prices are the same as Amazon.


Yeah -- WalMart is actually a fairly big player in the Node.js world.
https://github.com/walmartlabs
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:02 am    Post subject:

Looking forward to seeing how this all works out. In West LA, Amazon Prime Now already offers delivery of Sprouts and Bristol Farms items within a user-specified time frame. It's a $30 minimum order and they can deliver as soon as an hour for $7.99 extra plus tax/tip, or for >1 hour delivery it is just tax/tip. Haven't ordered from those two on the app, but the Amazon grocery side isn't bad at all with most items priced fairly close to traditional brick and mortar stores.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:19 am    Post subject:

Wasn't/ isn't Amazon also starting up the fully automated grocery store-- where you can just walk in and out and the items you select automatically get charged to your Amazon account?

Maybe they plan on converting the Whole Foods stores into those.
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Online shopping goes beyond borders. Either evolve or die. Walmart is doing better than most retail not only because of its size but also because they are adopting the online business model better than most other retail. Been to a Walmart recently? They have setup online pickups in the store where you get a discount for shopping online. Their prices are the same as Amazon.


I'm finding Walmart's online prices for staples I purchase regularly are cheaper than Amazon's. Amazon only compares if you use Fresh which costs $15/month for Prime members last I checked. Walmart's delivery time is just as good as Amazon's for me. I still go to brick and mortar stores for perishables.
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I bought a George Foreman Panini Grill, 65" tv stand, a combination leather storage and footstool, a back massage computer chair from Walmart. They have very competitive prices and I don't have to fight the mall crowds. You have to assemble the items. If you follow the direction they're easily assembled.

I had a bad experience with Amazon. They charged me for membership I didn't apply for. When they didn't rescind it I put a stop on all Amazon purchases. If I order anything from Amazon my bank won't pay it.
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I had a bad experience with Amazon. They charged me for membership I didn't apply for. When they didn't rescind it I put a stop on all Amazon purchases. If I order anything from Amazon my bank won't pay it.


You unintentionally signed up for prime, and when you told them this they didn't refund you? That's extraordinary...their customer service is pretty good re: refunds, but especially prime membership cancellation refunds.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:19 am    Post subject:

Amazon Fresh just got a whole lot more interesting. Also, they did experiment with a pay-less, cashier-less grocery store, wonder if they integrate it with some Whole Food stores:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrmMk1Myrxc


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I had a bad experience with Amazon. They charged me for membership I didn't apply for. When they didn't rescind it I put a stop on all Amazon purchases. If I order anything from Amazon my bank won't pay it.


You unintentionally signed up for prime, and when you told them this they didn't refund you? That's extraordinary...their customer service is pretty good re: refunds, but especially prime membership cancellation refunds.

I got the refund. It took some doing. I'd already put stops on anything Amazon. I haven't tried to remove the stops. I like Walmart.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:47 am    Post subject:

PLATNUM wrote:
Wasn't/ isn't Amazon also starting up the fully automated grocery store-- where you can just walk in and out and the items you select automatically get charged to your Amazon account?

Maybe they plan on converting the Whole Foods stores into those.


That's what I saw as well they even had a promo video of it. It would be dope if they reduced prices for Whole Foods and turned it into a fully automated store.
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