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adkindo
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| Car54 wrote: | | I think adding PG to this roster puts us right where Butler put Minni or better. I would say better because of Defense |
overall as a team better on defense...or because PG compared to Butler? Butler is really good on defense. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | Lowest Merion wrote: | | ExPatLkrFan wrote: | | I can smell a "we need thicker Laker Girls" thread. |
That thread was epic |
How about some cute Laker boys for the rest of us? |
Here you go: link |
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Laker4andmore
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| If the Lakers get James and George all of a sudden you have a log jam at the 3 and 4. What do you do with Ingram and Kuzma? Both of them are only going to play 1o0 minuest a game as James and George's back ups? |
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 6:27 am Post subject: |
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| Laker4andmore wrote: | | If the Lakers get James and George all of a sudden you have a log jam at the 3 and 4. What do you do with Ingram and Kuzma? Both of them are only going to play 1o0 minuest a game as James and George's back ups? |
Good problem to have.
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| Laker4andmore wrote: | | If the Lakers get James and George all of a sudden you have a log jam at the 3 and 4. What do you do with Ingram and Kuzma? Both of them are only going to play 1o0 minuest a game as James and George's back ups? |
That's what the trade deadline is for. Luke gets to experiment and we make a deal in Feb. Theorectically, we could try Ingram at 2, or PG at the 2.
Kuzma is less versatile, but could fulfil a 6th man role. I don't think Kuz is a starter at this stage of his career anyways. Still needs to work on his defense and probably shot selection. |
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 6:39 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Laker4andmore wrote: | | If the Lakers get James and George all of a sudden you have a log jam at the 3 and 4. What do you do with Ingram and Kuzma? Both of them are only going to play 1o0 minuest a game as James and George's back ups? |
Good problem to have. |
Either Lebron or BI would probably play some backup point guard. And when Lonzo gets injured, BI has already shown he can start there. |
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danzag
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Laker4andmore wrote: | | If the Lakers get James and George all of a sudden you have a log jam at the 3 and 4. What do you do with Ingram and Kuzma? Both of them are only going to play 1o0 minuest a game as James and George's back ups? |
Too much talent is never a problem |
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cyborgspider
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Laker4andmore wrote: | | If the Lakers get James and George all of a sudden you have a log jam at the 3 and 4. What do you do with Ingram and Kuzma? Both of them are only going to play 1o0 minuest a game as James and George's back ups? |
Kuzma was gonna be a backup anyway, barring a Randle exodus and 0 signings.
George can play the 2. James can play the 5 in certain situations. Lakers like to get all switchy anyway. Assuming they make the WCF or Finals, they'll be playing teams that don't even play a traditional 5. They'll be fine. |
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GoldenThroat
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Laker4andmore wrote: | | If the Lakers get James and George all of a sudden you have a log jam at the 3 and 4. What do you do with Ingram and Kuzma? Both of them are only going to play 1o0 minuest a game as James and George's back ups? |
PG: Lonzo Ball (32), Brandon Ingram (16)
SG: Paul George (26), Josh Hart (22)
SF: Brandon Ingram (16), Paul George (8), LeBron James (16), Josh Hart (8)
PF: LeBron James (18), Kyle Kuzma (30)
C: Julius Randle (32), Room Exception Big (16)
LeBron James = 34 minutes
Paul George = 34 minutes
Lonzo Ball = 32 minutes
Brandon Ingram = 32 minutes
Julius Randle = 32 minutes
Kyle Kuzma = 30 minutes
Josh Hart = 30 minutes
Room Exception Big = 16 minutes
Very unlikely they'd run an 8-man rotation throughout the season, but my point here is that there's a ton of positional versatility that would allow everyone to get minutes, and at positions that they're good at. |
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yinoma2001
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^ Yeah. That lineup is going to give a lot of teams trouble with the versatility.
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | ^ Yeah. That lineup is going to give a lot of teams trouble with the versatility. |
That starting lineup would be VERY unpleasant to deal with, and downright dominant when LeBron decides that he's gonna play defense too. |
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44TheLogo
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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| GoldenThroat wrote: | | Laker4andmore wrote: | | If the Lakers get James and George all of a sudden you have a log jam at the 3 and 4. What do you do with Ingram and Kuzma? Both of them are only going to play 1o0 minuest a game as James and George's back ups? |
PG: Lonzo Ball (32), Brandon Ingram (16)
SG: Paul George (26), Josh Hart (22)
SF: Brandon Ingram (16), Paul George (8), LeBron James (16), Josh Hart (8)
PF: LeBron James (18), Kyle Kuzma (30)
C: Julius Randle (32), Room Exception Big (16)
LeBron James = 34 minutes
Paul George = 34 minutes
Lonzo Ball = 32 minutes
Brandon Ingram = 32 minutes
Julius Randle = 32 minutes
Kyle Kuzma = 30 minutes
Josh Hart = 30 minutes
Room Exception Big = 16 minutes
Very unlikely they'd run an 8-man rotation throughout the season, but my point here is that there's a ton of positional versatility that would allow everyone to get minutes, and at positions that they're good at. |
throw in some vet min guys who can be rotation players and you've got a squad. there are some solid unrestricted FAs who might not get much more than vet min or might be interested in contending for a title.
e.g., bellinelli, tony parker, amir johnson, ed davis, joe johnson, seth curry
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e.g., bellinelli, tony parker, amir johnson, ed davis, joe johnson, seth curry |
I'm partial to Vince Carter myself, if just as a mentor for the young un's, he's taken a shining to Kuzma and is always talking to him before their games against the Kings. Not as a steady contributor, but maybe in the Brewer "once-in-a-while" role off the bench. |
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Kava
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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| GoldenThroat wrote: | | Laker4andmore wrote: | | If the Lakers get James and George all of a sudden you have a log jam at the 3 and 4. What do you do with Ingram and Kuzma? Both of them are only going to play 1o0 minuest a game as James and George's back ups? |
PG: Lonzo Ball (32), Brandon Ingram (16)
SG: Paul George (26), Josh Hart (22)
SF: Brandon Ingram (16), Paul George (8), LeBron James (16), Josh Hart (8)
PF: LeBron James (18), Kyle Kuzma (30)
C: Julius Randle (32), Room Exception Big (16)
LeBron James = 34 minutes
Paul George = 34 minutes
Lonzo Ball = 32 minutes
Brandon Ingram = 32 minutes
Julius Randle = 32 minutes
Kyle Kuzma = 30 minutes
Josh Hart = 30 minutes
Room Exception Big = 16 minutes
Very unlikely they'd run an 8-man rotation throughout the season, but my point here is that there's a ton of positional versatility that would allow everyone to get minutes, and at positions that they're good at. |
Look at BI getting all those backup pg minutes! Love it!
2nd unit with Hart at the 2 would have him guarding the other team's best Guard locking up BI for some off ball/help D swat fest.
Also liking BI at point w/ Hart and Kuz who are proven gunners that can stretch the floor. Mix in maybe a little T Bryant and we can defend/shoot/and rebound well at most every position.
Me likely!
Seriously, I've been tepid on Bron coming till I saw this minutes layout - I'll PM you Luke's private fax # that's connected to his beeper. |
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Judah
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If BI is going to function as backup point, I’d like the team to sign another shooter for the second unit. Bellinelli would work if he doesn’t ask for too much.
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Laker4andmore wrote: | | If the Lakers get James and George all of a sudden you have a log jam at the 3 and 4. What do you do with Ingram and Kuzma? Both of them are only going to play 1o0 minuest a game as James and George's back ups? |
Play LaBronze at center, of course. Positionless ball with Ingram at the 2. Lonzo, Ingram, Kuz, Bronze, Randle. |
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Judah
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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| JM wrote: | | Laker4andmore wrote: | | If the Lakers get James and George all of a sudden you have a log jam at the 3 and 4. What do you do with Ingram and Kuzma? Both of them are only going to play 1o0 minuest a game as James and George's back ups? |
Play LaBronze at center, of course. Positionless ball with Ingram at the 2. Lonzo, Ingram, Kuz, Bronze, Randle. |
Umm....aren’t you missing someone?
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| GoldenThroat wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | ^ Yeah. That lineup is going to give a lot of teams trouble with the versatility. |
That starting lineup would be VERY unpleasant to deal with, and downright dominant when LeBron decides that he's gonna play defense too. |
So as long as we make the playoffs, we'll be ok  |
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Laker4andmore wrote: | | If the Lakers get James and George all of a sudden you have a log jam at the 3 and 4. What do you do with Ingram and Kuzma? Both of them are only going to play 1o0 minuest a game as James and George's back ups? |
Well if you have Lebron and George who really cares about Ingram much less freaking Kuzma. |
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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| GoldenThroat wrote: | | Laker4andmore wrote: | | If the Lakers get James and George all of a sudden you have a log jam at the 3 and 4. What do you do with Ingram and Kuzma? Both of them are only going to play 1o0 minuest a game as James and George's back ups? |
PG: Lonzo Ball (32), Brandon Ingram (16)
SG: Paul George (26), Josh Hart (22)
SF: Brandon Ingram (16), Paul George (8), LeBron James (16), Josh Hart (8)
PF: LeBron James (18), Kyle Kuzma (30)
C: Julius Randle (32), Room Exception Big (16)
LeBron James = 34 minutes
Paul George = 34 minutes
Lonzo Ball = 32 minutes
Brandon Ingram = 32 minutes
Julius Randle = 32 minutes
Kyle Kuzma = 30 minutes
Josh Hart = 30 minutes
Room Exception Big = 16 minutes
Very unlikely they'd run an 8-man rotation throughout the season, but my point here is that there's a ton of positional versatility that would allow everyone to get minutes, and at positions that they're good at. |
oh man I just got hard. LOL |
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| GoldenThroat wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | ^ Yeah. That lineup is going to give a lot of teams trouble with the versatility. |
That starting lineup would be VERY unpleasant to deal with, and downright dominant when LeBron decides that he's gonna play defense too. |
The only thing is a lack of shooting. Lonzo, Ingram and Randle are all pretty unreliable from distance. Kuzma and Hart are much better in that regard.
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| adkindo wrote: | | Car54 wrote: | | I think adding PG to this roster puts us right where Butler put Minni or better. I would say better because of Defense |
overall as a team better on defense...or because PG compared to Butler? Butler is really good on defense. |
As a team because we’re already better on defense.
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| kobeandgary wrote: | | Laker4andmore wrote: | | If the Lakers get James and George all of a sudden you have a log jam at the 3 and 4. What do you do with Ingram and Kuzma? Both of them are only going to play 1o0 minuest a game as James and George's back ups? |
Well if you have Lebron and George who really cares about Ingram much less freaking Kuzma. |
Good analysis.
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Vanquish wrote: | | Laker4andmore wrote: | | If the Lakers get James and George all of a sudden you have a log jam at the 3 and 4. What do you do with Ingram and Kuzma? Both of them are only going to play 1o0 minuest a game as James and George's back ups? |
That's what the trade deadline is for. Luke gets to experiment and we make a deal in Feb. Theorectically, we could try Ingram at 2, or PG at the 2.
Kuzma is less versatile, but could fulfil a 6th man role. I don't think Kuz is a starter at this stage of his career anyways. Still needs to work on his defense and probably shot selection. |
Trade deadline? Please no reason to trade Ingram or Kuzma. Lebron and PG is gonna have to learn to play less than 40 mins. If they can’t do that then they’re never beating Steph Klay and Durant
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| Car54 wrote: | | Vanquish wrote: | | Laker4andmore wrote: | | If the Lakers get James and George all of a sudden you have a log jam at the 3 and 4. What do you do with Ingram and Kuzma? Both of them are only going to play 1o0 minuest a game as James and George's back ups? |
That's what the trade deadline is for. Luke gets to experiment and we make a deal in Feb. Theorectically, we could try Ingram at 2, or PG at the 2.
Kuzma is less versatile, but could fulfil a 6th man role. I don't think Kuz is a starter at this stage of his career anyways. Still needs to work on his defense and probably shot selection. |
Trade deadline? Please no reason to trade Ingram or Kuzma. Lebron and PG is gonna have to learn to play less than 40 mins. If they can’t do that then they’re never beating Steph Klay and Durant |
I agree. Keep Ingram, Kuzma, and Randle and allow them to grow during the regular season. As long as Lakers get a top 4 seed, that is all that matters. Don't worry about winning as many regular season games as you can; just stay healthy and allow Lebron and PG to stay fresh for the Playoffs
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