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Freddie Buckets
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| NBALakerLegends wrote: | | babyskyhook wrote: | | PRLakeShow wrote: | | Godbe wrote: | It was just reported a couple days ago that the 5th year was the reason OKC could re-sign George.
Now they're reporting he's going to do a 1+1 lol. They're all over the place. |
They contradict themselves daily. This is getting laughable. It's so obvious that all of this is fake news. PG/Mintz/Magic/Pelinka trying to downplay tampering, OKC selling to the their fan base 'hey we tried', PG trying to maintain the romance with RW but not staying in stinky OKC. |
That pretty much sums it up. |
Yeah, it’s quite obvious. Oddsmakers had PG coming to LA as huge favorites. Everyone knew. Have to avoid tampering in all ways possible. |
has anyone seen any recent odds on PG? I can't find anything on it. |
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LakerLanny
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Has anyone seen any recent odds on PG? I can't find anything on it. |
I can't find anything on PG13 at 5Dimes, but here is their current odds for LeBron and few for Kawhi I included at the bottom:
Lebron James plays for Lakers in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32001 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with LAL
-130
12:00PM 32002 Lebron first game not with Lakers
-110
Lebron James plays for Cavaliers in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32003 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with CLE
+325
12:00PM 32004 Lebron first game not with Cavaliers
-475
Lebron James plays for Rockets in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32005 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with HOU
+475
12:00PM 32006 Lebron first game not with Rockets
-825
Lebron James plays for Celtics in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32007 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with BOS
+575
12:00PM 32008 Lebron first game not with Celtics
-1125
Lebron James plays for 76ers in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32009 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with PHI
+1000
12:00PM 32010 Lebron first game not with 76ers
-2000
Lebron James plays for Clippers in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32011 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with LAC
+2000
12:00PM 32012 Lebron first game not with Clippers
-6000
Lebron James plays for Spurs in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32013 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with SAS
+2500
12:00PM 32014 Lebron first game not with Spurs
-7500
Lebron James plays for Heat in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32015 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with MIA
+4000
12:00PM 32016 Lebron first game not with Heat
-16000
Lebron James plays for Knicks in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32017 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with NYK
+6600
12:00PM 32018 Lebron first game not with Knicks
-27200
Lebron James plays for Warriors in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32019 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with GSW
+8000
12:00PM 32020 Lebron first game not with Warriors
-35000
Lebron James plays for Nuggets in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32021 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with DEN
+12500
12:00PM 32022 Lebron first game not with Nuggets
-999999
Lebron James plays for Wizzards in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32023 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with WAS
+12500
12:00PM 32024 Lebron first game not with Wizards
-999999
Lebron James plays for Pelicans in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32025 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with NOR
+12500
12:00PM 32026 Lebron first game not with Pelicans
-999999
Lebron James plays for Bucks in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32027 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with MIL
+12500
12:00PM 32028 Lebron first game not with Bucks
-999999
Lebron James plays for Pistons in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32029 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with DET
+15000
12:00PM 32030 Lebron first game not with Pistons
-999999
Lebron James plays for Timberwolves in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32031 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with MIN
+15000
12:00PM 32032 Lebron first game not with Timberwolves
-999999
Lebron James plays for Bulls in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32033 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with CHI
+15000
12:00PM 32034 Lebron first game not with Bulls
-999999
Lebron James plays for Trail Blazers in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32035 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with POR
+15000
12:00PM 32036 Lebron first game not with Trail Blazers
-75000
Lebron James plays for Hornets in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32037 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with CHA
+17500
12:00PM 32038 Lebron first game not with Hornets
-999999
Lebron James plays for Mavericks in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32039 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with DAL
+17500
12:00PM 32040 Lebron first game not with Mavericks
-999999
Lebron James plays for Raptors in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32041 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with TOR
+17500
12:00PM 32042 Lebron first game not with Raptors
-999999
Lebron James plays for Thunder in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32043 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with OKC
+25000
12:00PM 32044 Lebron first game not with Thunder
-999999
Lebron James plays for Pacers in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32045 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with IND
+40000
12:00PM 32046 Lebron first game not with Pacers
-999999
Lebron James plays for Jazz in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32047 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with UTAH
+55000
12:00PM 32048 Lebron first game not with Jazz
-999999
Lebron James plays for Suns in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32049 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with PHO
+55000
12:00PM 32050 Lebron first game not with Suns
-999999
Lebron James plays for Nets in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32051 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with BKN
+55000
12:00PM 32052 Lebron first game not with Nets
-999999
Lebron James plays for Kings in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32053 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with SAC
+55000
12:00PM 32054 Lebron first game not with Kings
-999999
Lebron James plays for Hawks in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32055 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with ATL
+60000
12:00PM 32056 Lebron first game not with Hawks
-999999
Lebron James plays for Magic in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32057 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with ORL
+60000
12:00PM 32058 Lebron first game not with Magic
-999999
Lebron James plays for Grizzlies in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32059 Lebron first game 2018/19 is with MEM
+60000
12:00PM 32060 Lebron first game not with Grizzlies
-999999
NBA - LeBron James Propositions
LeBron James lifetime NBA championships, graded after 180 days of official retirement
Sat 9/1 32071 Lebron James wins 6+ NBA Championships
+1600
12:00PM 32072 Lebron James won't win 6+ NBA Champs
-4800
NBA - Trades & Signings
Kawhi Leonard plays for Lakers in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32101 Kawhi first game 2018/19 is with LAL
+300
12:00PM 32102 Kawhi first game not with Lakers
-420
Kawhi Leonard plays for Spurs in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32103 Kawhi first game 2018/19 is with SAS
+320
12:00PM 32104 Kawhi first game not with Spurs
-460
Kawhi Leonard plays for Celtics in his first NBA game of 2018/19 season, includes preseason
Sat 9/1 32105 Kawhi first game 2018/19 is with BOS
+440
12:00PM 32106 Kawhi first game not with Celtics
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I think PG will be the first shoe to drop so to speak. If he wants to be here, we get him... To me honestly that's preferable than trading for Kawai because we sign PG..we keep our young ballers. If Lebron wants to come with PG here.... he comes... If not I say we try to keep Julius, and look at the Center position for another upgrade... If neither PG or Lebron comes...then we bring Julius back and again, look at Cousins maybe..
we have options....
but trading Ingram and/or Kuzma for Leonard..to me that's not a good move... the guy is a free agent next year.... and to me PG without trading any youngsters is more valuable than Kawai and losing BI or Kuz…
We got what amounts to 3 lottery picks out of last years draft...adding that to Brandon Ingram.... All the years the Sixers were in the process and look how long it took to end up with just 2 young stars.. It's major for us to have as many young talented players as we have right now, and we can add to that without losing any of them....
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| CantStopJM wrote: | | I'm starting to get the impression Stein hates the Lakers from his Kawhi tweets to Paul George tweets. |
Stein who? Better yet, why should we care? If you ain’t about Lakernation, we don’t need you and your opinion don’t really mean sht.
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| I saw the headline in the title update and knew what it basically said before I read it. I'm gonna be glad for the draft for a change of pace. |
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RichD
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| I'm thinking it's better to get our 2 big max players to play with our young core than gut the team to try for 3 max players and get a bunch of scrubs.. |
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| TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | | FanOfFour wrote: | | And why the heck would PG burn his bridges with OKC at this point anyway? What happens if the Lakers swing a Kawhi deal in the next 2 weeks and in doing so there isn't quite enough money left for him in addition to Lebron? The Lakers FO will choose Lebron over him and then PG is left with re-signing with OKC for whatever term or a different team altogether. If he makes it known publicly right now that the Lakers are his choice and circumstances prevent it from happening, then he's stuck in a sub-optimal situation. The right play is to let speculation occur. And if he truly does want to stay in OKC, he has zero to lose by just saying OKC is the place for him. But he hasn't. He's stayed silent. He can't really do anything until he gets an official formal offer from a team like the Lakers. You can't accept a job if the job hasn't been offered in a letter yet. |
Interesting take. Smart for him to keep the Laker talk down until this unfolds. |
Prob but KL makes about $20mil? and we have to send out $ close to it meaning Deng has to be included (3rd team/picks and what not)... so if we do get KL and LBJ signs for the max, we should still have money for PG and the choice is PG or Randle |
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| ^^^^ I thought we didn't have to send out any money to equal KL's salary because we are so far under the cap. |
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| LakerSanity wrote: | | tnell wrote: | Found this on reddit. Apparently it's from Marc Stein's newsletter that came out today
| Quote: | Paul George: One and Done or One Plus One?Since last week’s newsletter itemabout the Thunder’s better-than-expected chances of retaining the All-Star forward Paul George in free agency, I’ve heard even more support around the league for the idea that Oklahoma City can really convince George to stay.No deal is done until it’s done, as they say, so there will be no tangible relief in O.K.C. until George officially spurns his hometown Los Angeles Lakers this summer to stay put alongside Russell Westbrook. Kevin Durant’s departure in 2016 is still too fresh — as is George’s well-chronicled interest to play in L.A. — for any premature celebrations.
But it has reached the point that potential contract scenarios are starting to circulate. More than one rival team has suggested to me that they expect George to strongly consider a two-year deal with the Thunder at $30.3 million next season and $32.7 million in 2019-20 that includes a player option to return to free agency next summer.
A full five-year deal with the Thunder would be worth a guaranteed $176 million, as my trusted Twitter salary cap consultant @AlbertNahmad reminds me, but the short-term option does come with several potential benefits. By signing what’s known as a “one-plus-one deal,” George would be giving himself more time to see how he likes Oklahoma City (and how the Thunder upgrade the roster) before making a longer commitment — while also locking in more than $60 million guaranteed as protection against another serious injury. |
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It's all conjecture. George may end up being convinced to stay in OKC, but nothing here does more than communicate third party opinions by people who have nothing to do with George himself. Also, the Lakers can offer George the same exact deal, which is partly why there really isnt any significant financial advantage for George to stay in OKC even excluding the increased endorsement money he is likely to receive as a Laker. |
I'm wouldn't be shocked if PG thinks that maybe he can wait another year since the Lakers' cap space will still be around next summer.
I think if he does wait, good riddance. And LA Fans shouldn't chant they want him again this season, it'd be like that damn Stay Dwight billboard. |
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| joeblow wrote: | | ^^^^ I thought we didn't have to send out any money to equal KL's salary because we are so far under the cap. |
oh ok, then it might be KL vs PG+Ball/Kuz/BI |
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| pokoy wrote: | | LakerSanity wrote: | | tnell wrote: | Found this on reddit. Apparently it's from Marc Stein's newsletter that came out today
| Quote: | Paul George: One and Done or One Plus One?Since last week’s newsletter itemabout the Thunder’s better-than-expected chances of retaining the All-Star forward Paul George in free agency, I’ve heard even more support around the league for the idea that Oklahoma City can really convince George to stay.No deal is done until it’s done, as they say, so there will be no tangible relief in O.K.C. until George officially spurns his hometown Los Angeles Lakers this summer to stay put alongside Russell Westbrook. Kevin Durant’s departure in 2016 is still too fresh — as is George’s well-chronicled interest to play in L.A. — for any premature celebrations.
But it has reached the point that potential contract scenarios are starting to circulate. More than one rival team has suggested to me that they expect George to strongly consider a two-year deal with the Thunder at $30.3 million next season and $32.7 million in 2019-20 that includes a player option to return to free agency next summer.
A full five-year deal with the Thunder would be worth a guaranteed $176 million, as my trusted Twitter salary cap consultant @AlbertNahmad reminds me, but the short-term option does come with several potential benefits. By signing what’s known as a “one-plus-one deal,” George would be giving himself more time to see how he likes Oklahoma City (and how the Thunder upgrade the roster) before making a longer commitment — while also locking in more than $60 million guaranteed as protection against another serious injury. |
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It's all conjecture. George may end up being convinced to stay in OKC, but nothing here does more than communicate third party opinions by people who have nothing to do with George himself. Also, the Lakers can offer George the same exact deal, which is partly why there really isnt any significant financial advantage for George to stay in OKC even excluding the increased endorsement money he is likely to receive as a Laker. |
I'm wouldn't be shocked if PG thinks that maybe he can wait another year since the Lakers' cap space will still be around next summer.
I think if he does wait, good riddance. And LA Fans shouldn't chant they want him again this season, it'd be like that damn Stay Dwight billboard. |
Well if he made us choose from him and KL next summer , he's gonna be in for a he'll of a surprise. |
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| TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | | FanOfFour wrote: | | And why the heck would PG burn his bridges with OKC at this point anyway? What happens if the Lakers swing a Kawhi deal in the next 2 weeks and in doing so there isn't quite enough money left for him in addition to Lebron? The Lakers FO will choose Lebron over him and then PG is left with re-signing with OKC for whatever term or a different team altogether. If he makes it known publicly right now that the Lakers are his choice and circumstances prevent it from happening, then he's stuck in a sub-optimal situation. The right play is to let speculation occur. And if he truly does want to stay in OKC, he has zero to lose by just saying OKC is the place for him. But he hasn't. He's stayed silent. He can't really do anything until he gets an official formal offer from a team like the Lakers. You can't accept a job if the job hasn't been offered in a letter yet. |
Interesting take. Smart for him to keep the Laker talk down until this unfolds. |
Right, because if he says he wants to come to the Lakers the penalties would be, non-existent.
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No prop bets at all it seems online in regard to Paul George.
Kawhi prop bets were available as late as yesterday but seem to be gone now also.
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| €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | | CantStopJM wrote: | | I'm starting to get the impression Stein hates the Lakers from his Kawhi tweets to Paul George tweets. |
Stein who? Better yet, why should we care? If you ain’t about Lakernation, we don’t need you and your opinion don’t really mean sht. |
I unfollowed Stein soon as half his tweets were about soccer 😬😬 |
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lakers4life78
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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so sauces guy now legit again?
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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| lakers4life78 wrote: | | so sauces guy now legit again? |
Only when he has a sauce that makes the lakers a better team, otherwise he is still full of it. |
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Freddie Buckets
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Woj on ESPN2 said OKC sold PG on their team and culture and have real chance to bring PG back. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Freddie Buckets wrote: | | Woj on ESPN2 said OKC sold PG on their team and culture and have real chance to bring PG back. |
OKC felt the same way about Durant.  |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Freddie Buckets wrote: | | Woj on ESPN2 said OKC sold PG on their team and culture and have real chance to bring PG back. |
"Yawn" and the suspense is growing!!!! 
What is he basing this on? Where is this info coming from? That is an intimate detail that only PG would know and could verify. Did PG tell you that? No.
This stuff is getting out of hand. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Freddie Buckets wrote: | | Woj on ESPN2 said OKC sold PG on their team and culture and have real chance to bring PG back. |
"Team" and "culture" AKA getting their butts kicked by a rookie on the 1st round of the playoffs |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Didn't know Westbrook chucking could be defined as a culture. |
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| I have a feeling someone is feeding this to Woj to create more drama |
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| Sentient Meat wrote: | | Didn't know Westbrook chucking could be defined as a culture. |
To be fair, they also have a nearby Cracker Barrel. |
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| The team had lost out on KD and given Harden away is talking about their team “culture”? Lol, I needed this laugh after a big dinner |
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