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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:18 pm    Post subject:

Y'all are underestimating LONZO FREAKING BALL. The 2nd coming of Jason Kidd. 12/8/5 is attainable. Those were Kidd's rookie #s.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:32 pm    Post subject:

George >>> Lou

I have no doubt Ingram and Zubac are going to be better players, Ingram was terrible most of last season and Zubac didn't even play before the break, but at the end of last season they were solid for 19 years old rookies.

It is 3rd season for Russell, Julius and Nance, if they are not putting some very good numbers at the second half of next season we have greater problems than a few wins.

If we draft Ball I believe he is going to be a contributor early.

10+ wins is doable, maybe more since Ennis, Nwaba, Brewer acquisitions had a positive impact on team defense.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:32 pm    Post subject:

With George and Lonzo we win 40 games
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:37 pm    Post subject:

Depends on who is left on the team. Lets say we have to trade Clarkson, but we get to draft Ball, keep Randle/Russell/Zubac/Ingram and obtain George. In that scenario, I could see us winning 40-50 games next season.

With Randle and Clarkson gone, maybe 35-45 games net season. However, long term? I think we'd take a big hit if we had to give up Randle to get George now.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:40 pm    Post subject:

krisobe wrote:
Y'all are underestimating LONZO FREAKING BALL. The 2nd coming of Jason Kidd. 12/8/5 is attainable. Those were Kidd's rookie #s.


I think he surpasses that easily if given the minutes.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:09 pm    Post subject:

PG13 would the first domino to fall. If he comes, he opens the door for other vet star to come too
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:31 pm    Post subject:

With the expected growth of randle and dlo. Assuming we draft Lonzo who probably who wont start at first but could impact team culture from training camp with his unselfishness. An improved Ingram and Jr spacing the floor and also setting the tone defensively. Adding PG to the mix can definately make a huge difference. His influence can help speed up the growth of the kids. They can see first hand how an all star practices, conducts himself, and holds himself and the team accountable. In games, they will gain a ton of experience on how to bring the necessary energy consistently, how to finish quarters, how to keep the score close, and how to win. They can see how he approaches taking the last shot, taking the challenge defensively and how to help the team when his shot isnt falling. All veteran situations that younger players struggle with. With all that being said, if they can improve defensively as a team, i do think they can challenge for a playoff spot. Im a optimist lol. Its a long shot, but making the post season this coming year would be so awesome. Especially, at the expense of the draft pick the celts have. PG would make us better for sure.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:36 pm    Post subject:

Even with PG i still doubt we even get the 8th seed. Even if we do, we'd get swept by the Warriors lol
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:41 pm    Post subject:

danzag wrote:
2017-2018: 40 wins
2018-2019: 50 wins


This.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:48 pm    Post subject:

they're good. best friends
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:50 pm    Post subject:

governator wrote:
PG13 would the first domino to fall. If he comes, he opens the door for other vet star to come too


Stoudemire come on home baby
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:56 am    Post subject:

People do not have enough faith in our young players. I do not know why.
I think if we just let this players ,with Lonzo or JJ , to play their game next season, we are on 40 wins I am sure. If we trade Randle lets say for PG13 I think we can make 50 wins.

Ball/DLO/Clarkson/PG/Ingram/Zubac/Nance/Mozgov/Deng. This is good 8,5 players ( Deng is this half). If we can add one or two good veteran players it can be quite good season.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:31 am    Post subject:

The kids need to improve defensively, to at least in the middle tier/NBA average to show significant gains in the wins column.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:47 am    Post subject:

Chronicle wrote:
governator wrote:
PG13 would the first domino to fall. If he comes, he opens the door for other vet star to come too


Stoudemire come on home baby


Maybe not that 'vet'
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:57 am    Post subject:

Amar'e Stoudemire Celebrated His First Championship In Jerusalem

Amar'e is busy doing things looking like the second coming of the man upstairs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOFrNab77Qs
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:05 am    Post subject:

6 to 8 seed. Win a playoff game. That's about it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:15 am    Post subject:

8th seed
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:50 am    Post subject:

8th seed if lucky.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:58 am    Post subject:

5 or 6 wins better...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:50 pm    Post subject:

KindCrippler2000 wrote:
A first round sweep to the Warriors.



That's a huge step forward for a young team that won 26 games last season.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:06 pm    Post subject:

Kirby Brian wrote:
Even with PG i still doubt we even get the 8th seed. Even if we do, we'd get swept by the Warriors lol


We were playing .500 ball through 20 games last season before the injury bug hit and then we decided to go into tank mode.

Add another year for the core to learn Luke's system, Lonzo to move the ball around and replace one way black hole Lou Williams with a legit 2 way player in George and I think we might be better than you think.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:06 pm    Post subject:

if we got pg, it would improve in two ways...we get a tall very effective/talented scorer...and it also increases dramatically the value of a player like ball if we get him. without someone like pg13, ball is a questionable value. we still would be far away from the warriors. but it would be as good a start as i can see. the warriors would not have a passer like ball, so that would be a very slight advantage in that area. they already have a guy like pg13 in durant, so that doesn't help us. but if we were to improve in 2-3 other roster positions as well, now we're talking.

let's say ingram develops into what we want his potential to be. then we have another tall guy. that's two now with ball. if zubac is all he's cracked up to be, there's another difference maker. randle and dlo, not sure how that works out. dlo will never be like a curry, imo. randle will never be like a draymond. i like clarkson.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:08 pm    Post subject:

50 wins depending on what other moves we make
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:49 pm    Post subject:

krisobe wrote:
Y'all are underestimating LONZO FREAKING BALL. The 2nd coming of Jason Kidd. 12/8/5 is attainable. Those were Kidd's rookie #s.


we are the lakers , it does not excite me one bit that people always brag about the possibility to get the next jason kidd, we need another kobe clone, so hopefully we draft Josh Jackson
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:59 pm    Post subject:

I think people forget how great PG13 is as a player. He took an Indiana team of scrubs and had them battling with Maimi's big 3.

He is the 4th best 2-way wing in the NBA:

Durant
Lebron
Kawhi
PG13.


How good we are will depend on if Ingram / Dlo become all-star level players. If they do, they are better than any player PG13 has ever played with.
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