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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:08 pm Post subject:
You can act like a man!! _________________ Courage doesn't always roar.
Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying...'I will try again tomorrow.'
Predator for me. Loved it. Practical special effects, no CGI to constantly break suspension of disbelief. 30 yrs old and still looks relatively undated due to jungle background. Arnie. Violent, gory, nasty ("...it's cus of the echo..."). F the kiddies, they went for a harsh R, not PG13. Ana. She was cute. Brilliant new monster/creature with layers of detail. The cloaking, plasma cannon, repair kit, etc all looks fantastic even by 87 standards.
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:58 pm Post subject:
non-player zealot wrote:
Predator for me. Loved it. Practical special effects, no CGI to constantly break suspension of disbelief. 30 yrs old and still looks relatively undated due to jungle background. Arnie. Violent, gory, nasty ("...it's cus of the echo..."). F the kiddies, they went for a harsh R, not PG13. Ana. She was cute. Brilliant new monster/creature with layers of detail. The cloaking, plasma cannon, repair kit, etc all looks fantastic even by 87 standards.
Arnie, Jesse Ventura and Apollo Creed... that's about as masculine as it gets. Unless you can get Brando, Pacino, DeNiro, Caan and DuVall all together, in suits. Advantage Godfather.
Predator for me. Loved it. Practical special effects, no CGI to constantly break suspension of disbelief. 30 yrs old and still looks relatively undated due to jungle background. Arnie. Violent, gory, nasty ("...it's cus of the echo..."). F the kiddies, they went for a harsh R, not PG13. Ana. She was cute. Brilliant new monster/creature with layers of detail. The cloaking, plasma cannon, repair kit, etc all looks fantastic even by 87 standards.
Those were the daze.
I like GoodFellas over Godfather too
predatorvision + proprietary sound effects...oh, madonna
Predator's Power Glove and double retracting blade, too. Stan Winston did save their culos. I've seen that original Predator design. I'd like to give props to Kevin Peter Hall, the life inside. He gave it believable movement, he created the mannerisms. RIP, big man.
Look at that effer. That's a NEW critter out of one man's mind. Hashing out a great and totally original alien critter isn't terribly easy, I'd think. If it were, we'd have had more flicks like Preddy 1. Even Predator 2 still had the ethos of the original.
Look at the detail in his Power Glove and his cannon apparatus.
The music score by Silvestri was also brill. Forgot to mention that. That's a KEY, key point. It's a character in and of itself. As iconic as any 80s action movie soundtrack, as recognizable as Terminator w/o a doubt.
Also, the ensemble cast was great. You had smart guys like Shane Black, Carl Weathers, and Bill Duke and more elemental characters like The Body and Sonny Landham. You had some egos like Jesse and Sonny who were as big as you could find next to that of Arnie's himself.
Elpidia Carrillo was great. She held her own as the female foil and was a true cast member instead of an annoyance a la Newt in Aliens. She was cute in The Border (Jack/Harvey, 1982).
How about predator, but a trumpet plays through the entire movie
Predator would find the trumpet player and skin him alive. The trumpet would be sitting in the middle of the guy's entrails as his corpse hangs in a tree above. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL SEDALE TRIBUTE EDDIE DONX!
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:10 pm Post subject:
And to think, Predator was the first major movie for John McTiernan. If you want, watch his commentary for Predator. Most directors usually do an intro "Hi i'm ____ Director of ____ etc". The first words out of John's mouth are "Gosh I don't remember much about this movie"
Thankfully watching the movie jogs his memory and he gives some nice tidbits during the movie. _________________ *sighs*
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:45 pm Post subject:
I guess it depends on how you want to go the "masculine" route.
Sure, there's a lot of testosterone flooding the screen in Predator. SO if your idea of masculinity is purely about "Yeah Bro! Look at my Pecs and Delts while I blast weapons while screaming!", then of course it's Predator. But there's more to masculinity than flexing muscles.
Godfather is about a different kind of masculinity that involves familial/political ties, the loyalty to them and the consequences of miscalculating how to navigate it all.
Predator was comic book masculinity. Godfather was calculating, real life masculinity. I'm not one that buys into the idea that the former a "greater" masculinity than the latter. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:10 pm Post subject:
DaMuleRules wrote:
I guess it depends on how you want to go the "masculine" route.
Sure, there's a lot of testosterone flooding the screen in Predator. SO if your idea of masculinity is purely about "Yeah Bro! Look at my Pecs and Delts while I blast weapons while screaming!", then of course it's Predator. But there's more to masculinity than flexing muscles.
Godfather is about a different kind of masculinity that involves familial/political ties, the loyalty to them and the consequences of miscalculating how to navigate it all.
Predator was comic book masculinity. Godfather was calculating, real life masculinity. I'm not one that buys into the idea that the former a "greater" masculinity than the latter.
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:55 am Post subject:
DaMule! Yew son of a BECH! _________________ "The best there is. The best there was. The best there ever will be.", said Bret Hart regarding the Los Angeles Lakers.
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