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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:48 am    Post subject:

I sure hope they don't trade Kuz..
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ocho wrote:
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Car54 wrote:
Luminous8 wrote:
I honestly don’t see the love for Siakam. He’s good, but he really doesn’t look for the pass much and has iso heavy game. His jumper from deep has failed him. I don’t know,... I just think he doesn’t move off ball much. I could count on one hand how many times I’ve seen him make a strong off ball cut to the basket.


He’s becoming overrated for an inconsistent player that he is. But him scoring in the finals game one made him the new Jason Tatum.


in the Semis vs Philly he had games of
29, 21, 20, 25, 21

in the Finals he's had games of
32, 18, 19

this is extremely good for a 3rd year player. maybe he's not a future all-NBA guy, but can people not laud what looks like a future all-star?
Ingram is that inconsistent during the regular season, let alone big playoff series..
players who are between #2 and #3 options are this inconsistent in the playoffs; and they're still extremely valuable


And they got him with the 27th pick.


And I know it’s not as popular here as offense, but he plays defense.
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venturalakersfan wrote:
ocho wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Car54 wrote:
Luminous8 wrote:
I honestly don’t see the love for Siakam. He’s good, but he really doesn’t look for the pass much and has iso heavy game. His jumper from deep has failed him. I don’t know,... I just think he doesn’t move off ball much. I could count on one hand how many times I’ve seen him make a strong off ball cut to the basket.


He’s becoming overrated for an inconsistent player that he is. But him scoring in the finals game one made him the new Jason Tatum.


in the Semis vs Philly he had games of
29, 21, 20, 25, 21

in the Finals he's had games of
32, 18, 19

this is extremely good for a 3rd year player. maybe he's not a future all-NBA guy, but can people not laud what looks like a future all-star?
Ingram is that inconsistent during the regular season, let alone big playoff series..
players who are between #2 and #3 options are this inconsistent in the playoffs; and they're still extremely valuable


And they got him with the 27th pick.


And I know it’s not as popular here as offense, but he plays defense.


yes borderline elite defense.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:00 am    Post subject:

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I sure hope they don't trade Kuz..


I agree, I am not nearly as down on him as some others seem to be here.

He has done a fantastic job overall for the Lakers, I don't put last year's debacle on him at all.
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
ocho wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Car54 wrote:
Luminous8 wrote:
I honestly don’t see the love for Siakam. He’s good, but he really doesn’t look for the pass much and has iso heavy game. His jumper from deep has failed him. I don’t know,... I just think he doesn’t move off ball much. I could count on one hand how many times I’ve seen him make a strong off ball cut to the basket.


He’s becoming overrated for an inconsistent player that he is. But him scoring in the finals game one made him the new Jason Tatum.


in the Semis vs Philly he had games of
29, 21, 20, 25, 21

in the Finals he's had games of
32, 18, 19

this is extremely good for a 3rd year player. maybe he's not a future all-NBA guy, but can people not laud what looks like a future all-star?
Ingram is that inconsistent during the regular season, let alone big playoff series..
players who are between #2 and #3 options are this inconsistent in the playoffs; and they're still extremely valuable


And they got him with the 27th pick.


And I know it’s not as popular here as offense, but he plays defense.


yes borderline elite defense.


So you’re going to ignore the 7 8 and 9 pt games like I said he’s inconsistent
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:47 am    Post subject:

Car54 wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
ocho wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Car54 wrote:
Luminous8 wrote:
I honestly don’t see the love for Siakam. He’s good, but he really doesn’t look for the pass much and has iso heavy game. His jumper from deep has failed him. I don’t know,... I just think he doesn’t move off ball much. I could count on one hand how many times I’ve seen him make a strong off ball cut to the basket.


He’s becoming overrated for an inconsistent player that he is. But him scoring in the finals game one made him the new Jason Tatum.


in the Semis vs Philly he had games of
29, 21, 20, 25, 21

in the Finals he's had games of
32, 18, 19

this is extremely good for a 3rd year player. maybe he's not a future all-NBA guy, but can people not laud what looks like a future all-star?
Ingram is that inconsistent during the regular season, let alone big playoff series..
players who are between #2 and #3 options are this inconsistent in the playoffs; and they're still extremely valuable


And they got him with the 27th pick.


And I know it’s not as popular here as offense, but he plays defense.


yes borderline elite defense.


So you’re going to ignore the 7 8 and 9 pt games like I said he’s inconsistent


Kuzms had a bunch of those too, so whats your point?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:47 am    Post subject:

KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
ocho wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Car54 wrote:
Luminous8 wrote:
I honestly don’t see the love for Siakam. He’s good, but he really doesn’t look for the pass much and has iso heavy game. His jumper from deep has failed him. I don’t know,... I just think he doesn’t move off ball much. I could count on one hand how many times I’ve seen him make a strong off ball cut to the basket.


He’s becoming overrated for an inconsistent player that he is. But him scoring in the finals game one made him the new Jason Tatum.


in the Semis vs Philly he had games of
29, 21, 20, 25, 21

in the Finals he's had games of
32, 18, 19

this is extremely good for a 3rd year player. maybe he's not a future all-NBA guy, but can people not laud what looks like a future all-star?
Ingram is that inconsistent during the regular season, let alone big playoff series..
players who are between #2 and #3 options are this inconsistent in the playoffs; and they're still extremely valuable


And they got him with the 27th pick.


And I know it’s not as popular here as offense, but he plays defense.


yes borderline elite defense.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:50 am    Post subject:

Car54 wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
ocho wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Car54 wrote:
Luminous8 wrote:
I honestly don’t see the love for Siakam. He’s good, but he really doesn’t look for the pass much and has iso heavy game. His jumper from deep has failed him. I don’t know,... I just think he doesn’t move off ball much. I could count on one hand how many times I’ve seen him make a strong off ball cut to the basket.


He’s becoming overrated for an inconsistent player that he is. But him scoring in the finals game one made him the new Jason Tatum.


in the Semis vs Philly he had games of
29, 21, 20, 25, 21

in the Finals he's had games of
32, 18, 19

this is extremely good for a 3rd year player. maybe he's not a future all-NBA guy, but can people not laud what looks like a future all-star?
Ingram is that inconsistent during the regular season, let alone big playoff series..
players who are between #2 and #3 options are this inconsistent in the playoffs; and they're still extremely valuable


And they got him with the 27th pick.


And I know it’s not as popular here as offense, but he plays defense.


yes borderline elite defense.


So you’re going to ignore the 7 8 and 9 pt games like I said he’s inconsistent


And you are willing to ignore the 2 and 3 rebound games from our PF?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:52 am    Post subject:

The kuzma game that most stands out to me is vs. Philly. The guy was scorching hot but on defense he let his man score just as much as him. It was so bad htey needed to put BI on tobias
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:55 am    Post subject:

Car54 wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
ocho wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Car54 wrote:
Luminous8 wrote:
I honestly don’t see the love for Siakam. He’s good, but he really doesn’t look for the pass much and has iso heavy game. His jumper from deep has failed him. I don’t know,... I just think he doesn’t move off ball much. I could count on one hand how many times I’ve seen him make a strong off ball cut to the basket.


He’s becoming overrated for an inconsistent player that he is. But him scoring in the finals game one made him the new Jason Tatum.


in the Semis vs Philly he had games of
29, 21, 20, 25, 21

in the Finals he's had games of
32, 18, 19

this is extremely good for a 3rd year player. maybe he's not a future all-NBA guy, but can people not laud what looks like a future all-star?
Ingram is that inconsistent during the regular season, let alone big playoff series..
players who are between #2 and #3 options are this inconsistent in the playoffs; and they're still extremely valuable


And they got him with the 27th pick.


And I know it’s not as popular here as offense, but he plays defense.


yes borderline elite defense.


So you’re going to ignore the 7 8 and 9 pt games like I said he’s inconsistent


all 3rd year players, especially one's thrust into 2nd/3rd option roles have bad games. the good games are frequent enough and on such in big enough games to be an special feat. He literally won them a Finals game.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:03 am    Post subject:

being probably the 2nd best player on a championship team is "overrated", in his 3rd year , ok Car
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:45 am    Post subject:

twisted wrote:
Car54 wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
ocho wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Car54 wrote:
Luminous8 wrote:
I honestly don’t see the love for Siakam. He’s good, but he really doesn’t look for the pass much and has iso heavy game. His jumper from deep has failed him. I don’t know,... I just think he doesn’t move off ball much. I could count on one hand how many times I’ve seen him make a strong off ball cut to the basket.


He’s becoming overrated for an inconsistent player that he is. But him scoring in the finals game one made him the new Jason Tatum.


in the Semis vs Philly he had games of
29, 21, 20, 25, 21

in the Finals he's had games of
32, 18, 19

this is extremely good for a 3rd year player. maybe he's not a future all-NBA guy, but can people not laud what looks like a future all-star?
Ingram is that inconsistent during the regular season, let alone big playoff series..
players who are between #2 and #3 options are this inconsistent in the playoffs; and they're still extremely valuable


And they got him with the 27th pick.


And I know it’s not as popular here as offense, but he plays defense.


yes borderline elite defense.


So you’re going to ignore the 7 8 and 9 pt games like I said he’s inconsistent


Kuzms had a bunch of those too, so whats your point?


My point is He’s overrated
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:47 am    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
Car54 wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
ocho wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Car54 wrote:
Luminous8 wrote:
I honestly don’t see the love for Siakam. He’s good, but he really doesn’t look for the pass much and has iso heavy game. His jumper from deep has failed him. I don’t know,... I just think he doesn’t move off ball much. I could count on one hand how many times I’ve seen him make a strong off ball cut to the basket.


He’s becoming overrated for an inconsistent player that he is. But him scoring in the finals game one made him the new Jason Tatum.


in the Semis vs Philly he had games of
29, 21, 20, 25, 21

in the Finals he's had games of
32, 18, 19

this is extremely good for a 3rd year player. maybe he's not a future all-NBA guy, but can people not laud what looks like a future all-star?
Ingram is that inconsistent during the regular season, let alone big playoff series..
players who are between #2 and #3 options are this inconsistent in the playoffs; and they're still extremely valuable


And they got him with the 27th pick.


And I know it’s not as popular here as offense, but he plays defense.


yes borderline elite defense.


So you’re going to ignore the 7 8 and 9 pt games like I said he’s inconsistent


And you are willing to ignore the 2 and 3 rebound games from our PF?


As long as you’re willing to ignore the 1 reb games from
Siakam
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:50 am    Post subject:

Car54 wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
ocho wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Car54 wrote:
Luminous8 wrote:
I honestly don’t see the love for Siakam. He’s good, but he really doesn’t look for the pass much and has iso heavy game. His jumper from deep has failed him. I don’t know,... I just think he doesn’t move off ball much. I could count on one hand how many times I’ve seen him make a strong off ball cut to the basket.


He’s becoming overrated for an inconsistent player that he is. But him scoring in the finals game one made him the new Jason Tatum.


in the Semis vs Philly he had games of
29, 21, 20, 25, 21

in the Finals he's had games of
32, 18, 19

this is extremely good for a 3rd year player. maybe he's not a future all-NBA guy, but can people not laud what looks like a future all-star?
Ingram is that inconsistent during the regular season, let alone big playoff series..
players who are between #2 and #3 options are this inconsistent in the playoffs; and they're still extremely valuable


And they got him with the 27th pick.


And I know it’s not as popular here as offense, but he plays defense.


yes borderline elite defense.


So you’re going to ignore the 7 8 and 9 pt games like I said he’s inconsistent


That is an absurd take. Outside of all-nba trajectory type players, ALL young players are inconconsistent. The fact that he's shown up as the 2nd best player in multiple games in the effen' finals is a feat. It'd be a grand old circle jerk around these parts if that was happening on the Lakers.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:53 am    Post subject:

jonnybravo wrote:
Car54 wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
ocho wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Car54 wrote:
Luminous8 wrote:
I honestly don’t see the love for Siakam. He’s good, but he really doesn’t look for the pass much and has iso heavy game. His jumper from deep has failed him. I don’t know,... I just think he doesn’t move off ball much. I could count on one hand how many times I’ve seen him make a strong off ball cut to the basket.


He’s becoming overrated for an inconsistent player that he is. But him scoring in the finals game one made him the new Jason Tatum.


in the Semis vs Philly he had games of
29, 21, 20, 25, 21

in the Finals he's had games of
32, 18, 19

this is extremely good for a 3rd year player. maybe he's not a future all-NBA guy, but can people not laud what looks like a future all-star?
Ingram is that inconsistent during the regular season, let alone big playoff series..
players who are between #2 and #3 options are this inconsistent in the playoffs; and they're still extremely valuable


And they got him with the 27th pick.


And I know it’s not as popular here as offense, but he plays defense.


yes borderline elite defense.


So you’re going to ignore the 7 8 and 9 pt games like I said he’s inconsistent


That is an absurd take. Outside of all-nba trajectory type players, ALL young players are inconconsistent. The fact that he's shown up as the 2nd best player in multiple games in the effen' finals is a feat. It'd be a grand old circle jerk around these parts if that was happening on the Lakers.


Clear best player in a Finals win. The circular jerkature would be nuts
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:03 pm    Post subject:

Car54 wrote:
twisted wrote:
Car54 wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
ocho wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Car54 wrote:
Luminous8 wrote:
I honestly don’t see the love for Siakam. He’s good, but he really doesn’t look for the pass much and has iso heavy game. His jumper from deep has failed him. I don’t know,... I just think he doesn’t move off ball much. I could count on one hand how many times I’ve seen him make a strong off ball cut to the basket.


He’s becoming overrated for an inconsistent player that he is. But him scoring in the finals game one made him the new Jason Tatum.


in the Semis vs Philly he had games of
29, 21, 20, 25, 21

in the Finals he's had games of
32, 18, 19

this is extremely good for a 3rd year player. maybe he's not a future all-NBA guy, but can people not laud what looks like a future all-star?
Ingram is that inconsistent during the regular season, let alone big playoff series..
players who are between #2 and #3 options are this inconsistent in the playoffs; and they're still extremely valuable


And they got him with the 27th pick.


And I know it’s not as popular here as offense, but he plays defense.


yes borderline elite defense.


So you’re going to ignore the 7 8 and 9 pt games like I said he’s inconsistent


Kuzms had a bunch of those too, so whats your point?


My point is He’s overrated


He's less overrated compared to kuzma though.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:06 pm    Post subject:

Kuzma gets 3 Rebs in a game Lakers fans be like : he’s trash
Siakam gets one reb in a game Lakers fans be like : well he’s only 25 give him time lol
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:27 pm    Post subject:

KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
ocho wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Car54 wrote:
Luminous8 wrote:
I honestly don’t see the love for Siakam. He’s good, but he really doesn’t look for the pass much and has iso heavy game. His jumper from deep has failed him. I don’t know,... I just think he doesn’t move off ball much. I could count on one hand how many times I’ve seen him make a strong off ball cut to the basket.


He’s becoming overrated for an inconsistent player that he is. But him scoring in the finals game one made him the new Jason Tatum.


in the Semis vs Philly he had games of
29, 21, 20, 25, 21

in the Finals he's had games of
32, 18, 19

this is extremely good for a 3rd year player. maybe he's not a future all-NBA guy, but can people not laud what looks like a future all-star?
Ingram is that inconsistent during the regular season, let alone big playoff series..
players who are between #2 and #3 options are this inconsistent in the playoffs; and they're still extremely valuable


And they got him with the 27th pick.


And I know it’s not as popular here as offense, but he plays defense.


yes borderline elite defense.


He plays defense and has some big scoring games, but he plays an iso heavy game and then plays defense. But for some reason we complain about Ingram for doing the same thing. I guess my passive aggressive explanation of Siakam game went over your head. I was hoping someone would catch on to what I was doing lol. No worries. I like Siakam much better than Kuz, but I really don’t see how he’s better than Brandon.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:32 pm    Post subject:

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Kuzma gets 3 Rebs in a game Lakers fans be like : he’s trash
Siakam gets one reb in a game Lakers fans be like : well he’s only 25 give him time lol

I believe this is called an inferiority complex.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:42 pm    Post subject:

Siakam has impressed me throughout the playoffs. He had a breakout season and carried that over into the playoffs. The man deserves the credit he's getting. He has physical tools that I think Kuz and BI haven't yet figured out how to use to their advantage. That comes with age and experience.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:08 am    Post subject:

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Siakam has impressed me throughout the playoffs. He had a breakout season and carried that over into the playoffs. The man deserves the credit he's getting. He has physical tools that I think Kuz and BI haven't yet figured out how to use to their advantage. That comes with age and experience.


I like him and OG but I think he’s being overrated now.
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Kuzma gets 3 Rebs in a game Lakers fans be like : he’s trash
Siakam gets one reb in a game Lakers fans be like : well he’s only 25 give him time lol


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:10 am    Post subject:

Siakam.does so many things that dont show up in the stat sheet. He is what we wish kuzma would be.
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ocho wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Car54 wrote:
Luminous8 wrote:
I honestly don’t see the love for Siakam. He’s good, but he really doesn’t look for the pass much and has iso heavy game. His jumper from deep has failed him. I don’t know,... I just think he doesn’t move off ball much. I could count on one hand how many times I’ve seen him make a strong off ball cut to the basket.


He’s becoming overrated for an inconsistent player that he is. But him scoring in the finals game one made him the new Jason Tatum.


in the Semis vs Philly he had games of
29, 21, 20, 25, 21

in the Finals he's had games of
32, 18, 19

this is extremely good for a 3rd year player. maybe he's not a future all-NBA guy, but can people not laud what looks like a future all-star?
Ingram is that inconsistent during the regular season, let alone big playoff series..
players who are between #2 and #3 options are this inconsistent in the playoffs; and they're still extremely valuable


And they got him with the 27th pick.


And I know it’s not as popular here as offense, but he plays defense.


you won’t be making too many friends in this thread if you’re gonna talk about defense. type something like “he’s klay 2.0” or a variation of “kUuZz”.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:38 am    Post subject:

Right. Siakam at 23 yrs of age on his sophomore year, same as Kuz this year, was averaging 7.3ppg 4.5rebs and 2.0apg shooting just 22% from 3.

Wonder what the reaction would've been if Kuz had Siakam's sophomore numbers in his own 2nd season
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