I kind of like when he has those knucklehead moments, cuz you know he's gonna come back hella strong the next game. Also, looks like Luke knows he is motivated by tough love rather than coddling. Looking forward to the Bulls
Walton said he took Kuzma out 4 min. in because he took quick shots instead of looking at passes that were there. He thought Kuz responded very well, utilized his playmaking skills throughout the rest of the game. Also took good shots.
There is a good argument to bring up that he doesn't give everyone else the same leash, but maybe Kuz has higher expectations being set on him and guys like KCP are who they are. _________________ Austin Reaves
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He and Randle have a very good chemistry together. Still think we should start both.
Kuzma slept walk to a 17 point game today and in addition to that he made some 'teachable moment' plays.
All around had a solid game today with a couple of boneheaded plays but as a rookie you expect that. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
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He and Randle have a very good chemistry together. Still think we should start both.
Kuzma slept walk to a 17 point game today and in addition to that he made some 'teachable moment' plays.
All around had a solid game today with a couple of boneheaded plays but as a rookie you expect that.
Hard to start both over Lopez. _________________
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:35 pm Post subject:
justsomelakerfan wrote:
SocalDevin wrote:
Hard to keep in mind Kuz is just a rookie.. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a better career than Simmons. Wouldn't be surprised at all.
I have very high hopes for Kuz... but come on.
Kid is pretty solid in every facet of the game.. No gaping holes.
Simmons has one major gaping hole that admittedly he has compensated for.
Kuz is also effective without the ball in his hands.. Simmons? Not so much. Kuz only needs a split second with the ball in his hands to be a problem. If Simmons isn't making a quick pass then I don't see him presenting the same kind of problem.
Simmons is more likely to be a better player, but based on what Kuz is already good at and how much he can impact the game without a high usage I wouldn't rule out him having a career that's on par or better.
This guy hit a running hook shot layup lol... Like are you serious.. A running hook shot layup.. That's insane.
Walton said he took Kuzma out 4 min. in because he took quick shots instead of looking at passes that were there. He thought Kuz responded very well, utilized his playmaking skills throughout the rest of the game. Also took good shots.
There is a good argument to bring up that he doesn't give everyone else the same leash, but maybe Kuz has higher expectations being set on him and guys like KCP are who they are.
Yea I don't get it. Kuz always passes up pretty open 3s. He shot that same look for his first shot tonight and made it, then got pulled 3 mins later -// he was getting shots up.. but it never looks egregious. KCP's shot selcection often looks egregious
This guy hit a running hook shot layup lol... Like are you serious.. A running hook shot layup.. That's insane.
Magic was also the last guy who could do that kinda shot. I know the shot yer referring to. I gotta game from 91 at ORL where he hit at least 4 hooks and one was a running banking hook like that one that made Chick/Stu go OOOH. It was even on the same end of the court. That kinda shot takes great finesse. Kuz made it look ho-hum. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL SEDALE TRIBUTE EDDIE DONX!
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:04 am Post subject:
non-player zealot wrote:
SocalDevin wrote:
This guy hit a running hook shot layup lol... Like are you serious.. A running hook shot layup.. That's insane.
Magic was also the last guy who could do that kinda shot. I know the shot yer referring to. I gotta game from 91 at ORL where he hit at least 4 hooks and one was a running banking hook like that one that made Chick/Stu go OOOH. It was even on the same end of the court. That kinda shot takes great finesse. Kuz made it look ho-hum.
Yea he really did make it look routine.. I just had to laugh when he did it cause it was so ridiculous. Like no one makes shots like that, let alone take them.
This guy hit a running hook shot layup lol... Like are you serious.. A running hook shot layup.. That's insane.
Magic was also the last guy who could do that kinda shot. I know the shot yer referring to. I gotta game from 91 at ORL where he hit at least 4 hooks and one was a running banking hook like that one that made Chick/Stu go OOOH. It was even on the same end of the court. That kinda shot takes great finesse. Kuz made it look ho-hum.
Yea he really did make it look routine.. I just had to laugh when he did it cause it was so ridiculous. Like no one makes shots like that, let alone take them.
Him and Ben Simmons, although not sure if Simmons does it on regular like Kuzma
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:32 am Post subject:
justsomelakerfan wrote:
I liked the idea behind his first quarter benching actually. Luke's talking about him being a great playmaker postgame too and I totally agree.
He scored 28 in a half after going 0-6 the first half last game. He's a scorer and he will naturally find his opportunities.
I disagreed in the game thread. He isn’t a great playmaker, nor a good playmaker or a playmaker at all. He has been a ball stopper who has gotten a few assists the last two games after being benched for playing selfishly. He is still a rookie and has a lot of room to grow and learn to play a team game. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
I don't think play making will ever be his primary role.
He just needs to know you can't shoot all the time. So it's ok to swing it.
But he's being smart about doing what you're good at. And at this point it's getting buckets.
I liked the idea behind his first quarter benching actually. Luke's talking about him being a great playmaker postgame too and I totally agree.
He scored 28 in a half after going 0-6 the first half last game. He's a scorer and he will naturally find his opportunities.
I disagreed in the game thread. He isn’t a great playmaker, nor a good playmaker or a playmaker at all. He has been a ball stopper who has gotten a few assists the last two games after being benched for playing selfishly. He is still a rookie and has a lot of room to grow and learn to play a team game.
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I don't think play making will ever be his primary role.
He just needs to know you can't shoot all the time. So it's ok to swing it.
But he's being smart about doing what you're good at. And at this point it's getting buckets.
Absolutely, he's having the 3rd best TS% in the team (.589), well above league average, and more important, he's doing it without holding the ball, he's no black hole.
So I wouldn't tell him to shoot less, but to be more carefull with the ball (not really a problem right now since he's a rookie) and work on his defense, which is not bad but he has room for improvement...
I understand what Luke is trying to do but breh... he's our best scorer on a team that is scoring deficient. If your'e going to bench him then be fair and bench KCP too who plays like Brewer at times.
I liked the idea behind his first quarter benching actually. Luke's talking about him being a great playmaker postgame too and I totally agree.
He scored 28 in a half after going 0-6 the first half last game. He's a scorer and he will naturally find his opportunities.
I disagreed in the game thread. He isn’t a great playmaker, nor a good playmaker or a playmaker at all. He has been a ball stopper who has gotten a few assists the last two games after being benched for playing selfishly. He is still a rookie and has a lot of room to grow and learn to play a team game.
When I am on my lunch break there are some clips that need to be shared with this thread!
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:29 am Post subject:
defense wrote:
I understand what Luke is trying to do but breh... he's our best scorer on a team that is scoring deficient. If your'e going to bench him then be fair and bench KCP too who plays like Brewer at times.
KCP's a lost cause. (Brewer has a quick trigger... seriously?)
In the larger sense it does seem absurd that he's trying to temper the shooting instincts of one of the few players on this team willing to let it fly from beyond 22', but if he can't mold and develop good habits in a rookie he's probably not doing his job.
I understand what Luke is trying to do but breh... he's our best scorer on a team that is scoring deficient. If your'e going to bench him then be fair and bench KCP too who plays like Brewer at times.
Cuz Kuz gets replaced with Julius.
And KCP gets replaced by Hart? Unless you want JC in there, but I think Luke likes JC taking the pg spot when he comes in.
That being said, I'd love to know if there are numbers on how many times Kuz passes the ball vs how many times KCP does. And from what part of the court they're passing.
I liked the idea behind his first quarter benching actually. Luke's talking about him being a great playmaker postgame too and I totally agree.
He scored 28 in a half after going 0-6 the first half last game. He's a scorer and he will naturally find his opportunities.
I disagreed in the game thread. He isn’t a great playmaker, nor a good playmaker or a playmaker at all. He has been a ball stopper who has gotten a few assists the last two games after being benched for playing selfishly. He is still a rookie and has a lot of room to grow and learn to play a team game.
When I am on my lunch break there are some clips that need to be shared with this thread!
dis gun b gud
It's prob gun b underwhelming but watch These clips of people smarter than me break down his potential as a passer from the DraftExpress strengths vid and also this breakdown of him at the combine
(go to 6:10)
And just generally speaking he's had these great cross court passes and finds guys on drives. He doesn't stop the ball, makes quick reads. I appreciate the coaching staff recognizing this strength of his and working on bringing it out of him. Because it will make him more dangerous as a scorer too _________________ Austin Reaves
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I liked the idea behind his first quarter benching actually. Luke's talking about him being a great playmaker postgame too and I totally agree.
He scored 28 in a half after going 0-6 the first half last game. He's a scorer and he will naturally find his opportunities.
I disagreed in the game thread. He isn’t a great playmaker, nor a good playmaker or a playmaker at all. He has been a ball stopper who has gotten a few assists the last two games after being benched for playing selfishly. He is still a rookie and has a lot of room to grow and learn to play a team game.
Uh no. Do you even watch the games? He's usually the end result of a play since he's a scorer and rightfully so. He could get used to making that one extra pass for a better look but no, he's no ball stopper. He gets extra attempts by running in transition, always cutting and fighting for and getting putbacks. If anything, he should have had a few more assists the last few games if not for missed wide open threes by KCP and Brook. For playing the 3rd, 4th most minutes on the team, you'd think a ball stopper would have a higher usage rate, no?
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