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3baller
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| I don't know where people get the nerve to complain about a late 1st round rookie posting a statline nearly comparable to established stars having only played 19 games in his career and who we are and will be paying only chump change for the next 3 years who btw is in the running for ROTY if not for the fake rookie Ben Simmons. |
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Daphanabe
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| 3baller wrote: | | I don't know where people get the nerve to complain about a late 1st round rookie posting a statline nearly comparable to established stars having only played 19 games in his career and who we are and will be paying only chump change for the next 3 years who btw is in the running for ROTY if not for the fake rookie Ben Simmons. |
That’s LG for you in a nutshell. You eventually learn which posters are worth reading and then ignoring majority of the one note / troll types. |
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Team of the 80's
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Daphanabe wrote: | | 3baller wrote: | | I don't know where people get the nerve to complain about a late 1st round rookie posting a statline nearly comparable to established stars having only played 19 games in his career and who we are and will be paying only chump change for the next 3 years who btw is in the running for ROTY if not for the fake rookie Ben Simmons. |
That’s LG for you in a nutshell. You eventually learn which posters are worth reading and then ignoring majority of the one note / troll types. |
Most of them need to be ignored. |
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ringfinger
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuzma probably deserves the least criticism of anyone in the Lakers front office, coaching staff, and team. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | Kuzma probably deserves the least criticism of anyone in the Lakers front office, coaching staff, and team. |
Nothing wrong with pointing out things for him to work on. He has so much potential if he works on just a few more things. His 3s starting to drop is huge
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | Kuzma probably deserves the least criticism of anyone in the Lakers front office, coaching staff, and team. |
He is the brightest spot on the Lakers team the past 6 months. Sure he is a rookie and his game has defects, but he is probably the best rookie we have had since Magic. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| h2omike wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Kuzma probably deserves the least criticism of anyone in the Lakers front office, coaching staff, and team. |
He is the brightest spot on the Lakers team the past 6 months. Sure he is a rookie and his game has defects, but he is probably the best rookie we have had since Magic. |
He doesn't seem transcendent like Magic, but I get pumped up watching Kuz just like I was when I saw Big Game and Eddie Jones their rookie seasons.
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| justsomelakerfan wrote: | | I don't think we've missed Larry |
I thought we were fiends |
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For those who feels Kuzma is a ball hog, I'm guessing you've never once cheered for Kobe in your lives. Because if you really want to talk about a ball hog....
Kuzma is averaging 13.1 FGA/game. Kobe in his twenty years was below that twice. In his rookie season, and the season where he sat out all but 6 games due to the Achilles injury. The rest of the time he was jacking up anywhere up to 27.2 FGA/game. And as great as Kobe was, most of those shots were heavily contested. So let's give Kuzma a break people. |
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LakersNewEra
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| Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:15 am Post subject: |
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| 3baller wrote: | | I don't know where people get the nerve to complain about a late 1st round rookie posting a statline nearly comparable to established stars having only played 19 games in his career and who we are and will be paying only chump change for the next 3 years who btw is in the running for ROTY if not for the fake rookie Ben Simmons. |
In the grand scheme of things...yes.
But he isn't being seen as a rookie anymore, he is now being seen as out best scorer, our first option and probably our best player.
I mean that is amazing, dont you think the criticism he gets is actually awesome because he has raised the bar for himself where anything below say 17-8 is seen as a bad game for him?
He's been remarkable. I guess the fact people are criticizing him now based on expectations to be our best player really speaks volumes on how remarkable he actually is. |
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| tox wrote: | | justsomelakerfan wrote: | | I don't think we've missed Larry |
I thought we were fiends |
Whoa! I missed that comment. Any time Bogut plays is a time when the Lakers miss Larry Nance, Jr. |
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| LakerSanity wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | trablos wrote: | | Don't want to blow up the thread..but it is fair to say that Kuz is just as talented at this point as rookie year Kobe? |
No. |
Kuzma (Age 22 per 36 Min.): 19.1 PPG (59% TS%), 5.7 RPG, 1.8 APG, 0.4 SPG, 0.1 BPG, 15.8 PER
Bryant (Age 22 per 36 Min.): 25.1 PPG (55% TS%), 5.2 RPG, 4.4 APG, 1.5 SPG, 0.6 BPG, 24.5 PER
Not really comparable at all, especially given that Kobe played next to Shaq (who took scoring opportunities away from him) and that, by this time, Kobe was already a top defender (he had already made 1st team All-NBA defense at 21, and was 2nd team at age 22... making no mention of being All-NBA first team at 21 and also All-NBA 2nd team at age 22). Kobe also received MVP votes for 13 consecutive years beginning at age 21.
When you have a Kobe or Lebron (a potential all-time top 10 player), you know you have one before age 22. |
LS - can you provide rookie stats for kobe? Kobe stats at 22 are kinda useless in this context because he had been in the league for years
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| Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:33 am Post subject: |
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| 7. something ppg. I guess both of us are too lazy to look it up lol. |
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LandsbergerRules
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| Dr. Funkbot wrote: |
LS - can you provide rookie stats for kobe? Kobe stats at 22 are kinda useless in this context because he had been in the league for years |
Lol what's the point of comparing an 18 yr old Kobe's stats with Kuz's?
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justsomelakerfan
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| Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:39 am Post subject: |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | tox wrote: | | justsomelakerfan wrote: | | I don't think we've missed Larry |
I thought we were fiends |
Whoa! I missed that comment. Any time Bogut plays is a time when the Lakers miss Larry Nance, Jr. |
Damn, thought I could just use the tiny font and sneak it in 
How often is Bogut really playing? I don't think Larry has been missed as a starter (or playing starter minutes). Rather give the 4 spot fully to Kuzma & Randle, Lakers are still 4th in defense since he's been out
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justsomelakerfan
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| LandsbergerRules wrote: | | Dr. Funkbot wrote: |
LS - can you provide rookie stats for kobe? Kobe stats at 22 are kinda useless in this context because he had been in the league for years |
Lol what's the point of comparing an 18 yr old Kobe's stats with Kuz's? |
Agreed. Also, I can't stress enough how much I recommend not comparing him with Kobe... we will end up disappointed I promise.
I thought the Wiggins numbers side by side to his are interesting.
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| justsomelakerfan wrote: | | LandsbergerRules wrote: | | Dr. Funkbot wrote: |
LS - can you provide rookie stats for kobe? Kobe stats at 22 are kinda useless in this context because he had been in the league for years |
Lol what's the point of comparing an 18 yr old Kobe's stats with Kuz's? |
Agreed. Also, I can't stress enough how much I recommend not comparing him with Kobe... we will end up disappointed I promise.
I thought the Wiggins numbers side by side to his are interesting. |
Yup, that's a better comparison.
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One Laker player Kuz is comparable to per 36 at age 22 is Jamaal Wilkes. Wilkes has a considerable edge in rebounding though:
19 PPG, 9.5 REB, 2.2 AST, 1.4 STL, 0.4 BLK |
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This is extremely superficial but I do expect Kyle's #s to go down a bit closer to 14-15ppg sharing opportunities with JC & Randle.
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Damn it, Luke. |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Damn it, Luke. |
(bleep) Luke |
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I see why Walton might want to start Nance at this point, just because a lot of our slow starts have to do with giving up a ton a baskets early. Nance, KCP and Lonzo are three of our best defenders. Problem is that Kuzma is our best shooter. You sub Nance in for Kuzma...you have a starting lineup that just can't shoot and a bench that can't defend. Also, Kuzma won't be getting nearly as many 3 point chances with JC and Randle Ball Pounding. Ball and Kuzma also have a nice connection on run outs.
I also think that Larry has been so fragile up to this point, may be best of to play him bench min (15-20) instead of starter minutes.
I guess if Larry coming back means that Kyle will be splitting time backing up both the 3 and 4 and will still get 30 minutes then I'm good with it. Taking away brewers minutes and replacing them with Kuzma out there would definitely help. As much as I like Kuzma's shooting, we can't be down 18-8 to start every game. |
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please be a confused double negative
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