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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:38 pm    Post subject:

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Seriously, why is he so hyped?

He's another Clarkson. Same pros and same cons. There's a reason why advanced metrics hate him. He can't defend. When his shot is on, he'll give the points right back. When his shot is off, he's as much as a liability as Clarkson.


For someone trying to use advanced metrics, you shouldíve at least gotten your facts straight or even close for that matter.

Julius Randle 1st yr playing: -2.75 ORPM, -1.55 DRPM, -4.3 RPM
Jordan Clarkson: Rookie: 0.64 ORPM, -3.00 DRPM, -2.36 DRPM
Sophomore: O.14 ORPM, -2.56 DRPM, -2.42 RPM
3rd year: -0.63 ORPM, -3.39 DRPM, -4.02 RPM
Díangelo Russell: -1.10 ORPM, -2.56 DRPM, -3.66RPM
Brandon Ingram: -1.76 ORPM, -2.93 DRPM, -4.69 RPM

Kyle Kuzma: 0.02 ORPM, -1.73 DRPM, -1.71 RPM

Kuz was around -2.5, -2.7 DRPM a month ago so heís been trending upward since focusing more on D. Heís not on the same stratosphere at sucking on defense as JC. Not even close. And heís playing better D than our other past hyped rookies on their 1st year so..


What in the world did you just prove with this post? He's bad defensively but not as bad as Clarkson? Ok?

He's one of the worst defenders in the league. Visually and numbers wise.

The fact that some people think he's untouchable and part of our future is alarming. He's overrated on this board. Wolves gave up Lavine without blinking yet some people wouldn't trade him at all except for 10-15 guys.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:47 pm    Post subject:

Holy crap Kuzma cannot defend
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:53 pm    Post subject:

CantStopJM wrote:
3baller wrote:
CantStopJM wrote:
Seriously, why is he so hyped?

He's another Clarkson. Same pros and same cons. There's a reason why advanced metrics hate him. He can't defend. When his shot is on, he'll give the points right back. When his shot is off, he's as much as a liability as Clarkson.


For someone trying to use advanced metrics, you shouldíve at least gotten your facts straight or even close for that matter.

Julius Randle 1st yr playing: -2.75 ORPM, -1.55 DRPM, -4.3 RPM
Jordan Clarkson: Rookie: 0.64 ORPM, -3.00 DRPM, -2.36 DRPM
Sophomore: O.14 ORPM, -2.56 DRPM, -2.42 RPM
3rd year: -0.63 ORPM, -3.39 DRPM, -4.02 RPM
Díangelo Russell: -1.10 ORPM, -2.56 DRPM, -3.66RPM
Brandon Ingram: -1.76 ORPM, -2.93 DRPM, -4.69 RPM

Kyle Kuzma: 0.02 ORPM, -1.73 DRPM, -1.71 RPM

Kuz was around -2.5, -2.7 DRPM a month ago so heís been trending upward since focusing more on D. Heís not on the same stratosphere at sucking on defense as JC. Not even close. And heís playing better D than our other past hyped rookies on their 1st year so..


What in the world did you just prove with this post? He's bad defensively but not as bad as Clarkson? Ok?

He's one of the worst defenders in the league. Visually and numbers wise.

The fact that some people think he's untouchable and part of our future is alarming. He's overrated on this board. Wolves gave up Lavine without blinking yet some people wouldn't trade him at all except for 10-15 guys.


Uhh proved that A.) heís getting better on D as the season is progressing B.) Heís still a rookie but is playing better D than our last rookies including our other untouchable Ingram C.) Kuz is hyped because heís a rookie and still has upside on D and has shown elite offensive potential, unlike JC who you compared him to who has been consistently bad on defense D.) You are probably high

Also pretty sure LaVine had a very serious injury which Iím sure made the decision a lot easier.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:08 pm    Post subject:

3baller wrote:
CantStopJM wrote:
3baller wrote:
CantStopJM wrote:
Seriously, why is he so hyped?

He's another Clarkson. Same pros and same cons. There's a reason why advanced metrics hate him. He can't defend. When his shot is on, he'll give the points right back. When his shot is off, he's as much as a liability as Clarkson.


For someone trying to use advanced metrics, you shouldíve at least gotten your facts straight or even close for that matter.

Julius Randle 1st yr playing: -2.75 ORPM, -1.55 DRPM, -4.3 RPM
Jordan Clarkson: Rookie: 0.64 ORPM, -3.00 DRPM, -2.36 DRPM
Sophomore: O.14 ORPM, -2.56 DRPM, -2.42 RPM
3rd year: -0.63 ORPM, -3.39 DRPM, -4.02 RPM
Díangelo Russell: -1.10 ORPM, -2.56 DRPM, -3.66RPM
Brandon Ingram: -1.76 ORPM, -2.93 DRPM, -4.69 RPM

Kyle Kuzma: 0.02 ORPM, -1.73 DRPM, -1.71 RPM

Kuz was around -2.5, -2.7 DRPM a month ago so heís been trending upward since focusing more on D. Heís not on the same stratosphere at sucking on defense as JC. Not even close. And heís playing better D than our other past hyped rookies on their 1st year so..


What in the world did you just prove with this post? He's bad defensively but not as bad as Clarkson? Ok?

He's one of the worst defenders in the league. Visually and numbers wise.

The fact that some people think he's untouchable and part of our future is alarming. He's overrated on this board. Wolves gave up Lavine without blinking yet some people wouldn't trade him at all except for 10-15 guys.


Uhh proved that A.) heís getting better on D as the season is progressing B.) Heís still a rookie but is playing better D than our last rookies including our other untouchable Ingram C.) Kuz is hyped because heís a rookie and still has upside on D and has shown elite offensive potential, unlike JC who you compared him to who has been consistently bad on defense D.) You are probably high

Also pretty sure LaVine had a very serious injury which Iím sure made the decision a lot easier.


Who cares if he's getting better on defense, I would hope so, he was probably the worst one in the league. He still sucks defensively. Clarkson was bad defensively his rookie year, has he progressed on that end? Kuzma has upside defensively? He looks like a nervous wreck on that end like he's whispering to himself don't pass to my man don't pass to my man. You would think after seeing Randle and Clarkson that people would realize that potential is just a word.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:10 pm    Post subject:

CantStopJM wrote:
3baller wrote:
CantStopJM wrote:
3baller wrote:
CantStopJM wrote:
Seriously, why is he so hyped?

He's another Clarkson. Same pros and same cons. There's a reason why advanced metrics hate him. He can't defend. When his shot is on, he'll give the points right back. When his shot is off, he's as much as a liability as Clarkson.


For someone trying to use advanced metrics, you shouldíve at least gotten your facts straight or even close for that matter.

Julius Randle 1st yr playing: -2.75 ORPM, -1.55 DRPM, -4.3 RPM
Jordan Clarkson: Rookie: 0.64 ORPM, -3.00 DRPM, -2.36 DRPM
Sophomore: O.14 ORPM, -2.56 DRPM, -2.42 RPM
3rd year: -0.63 ORPM, -3.39 DRPM, -4.02 RPM
Díangelo Russell: -1.10 ORPM, -2.56 DRPM, -3.66RPM
Brandon Ingram: -1.76 ORPM, -2.93 DRPM, -4.69 RPM

Kyle Kuzma: 0.02 ORPM, -1.73 DRPM, -1.71 RPM

Kuz was around -2.5, -2.7 DRPM a month ago so heís been trending upward since focusing more on D. Heís not on the same stratosphere at sucking on defense as JC. Not even close. And heís playing better D than our other past hyped rookies on their 1st year so..


What in the world did you just prove with this post? He's bad defensively but not as bad as Clarkson? Ok?

He's one of the worst defenders in the league. Visually and numbers wise.

The fact that some people think he's untouchable and part of our future is alarming. He's overrated on this board. Wolves gave up Lavine without blinking yet some people wouldn't trade him at all except for 10-15 guys.


Uhh proved that A.) heís getting better on D as the season is progressing B.) Heís still a rookie but is playing better D than our last rookies including our other untouchable Ingram C.) Kuz is hyped because heís a rookie and still has upside on D and has shown elite offensive potential, unlike JC who you compared him to who has been consistently bad on defense D.) You are probably high

Also pretty sure LaVine had a very serious injury which Iím sure made the decision a lot easier.


Who cares if he's getting better on defense, I would hope so, he was probably the worst one in the league. He still sucks defensively. Clarkson was bad defensively his rookie year, has he progressed on that end? Kuzma has upside defensively? He looks like a nervous wreck on that end like he's whispering to himself don't pass to my man don't pass to my man. You would think after seeing Randle and Clarkson that people would realize that potential is just a word.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:11 pm    Post subject:

This dude cannot defend to save his life.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:20 pm    Post subject:

CantStopJM wrote:
3baller wrote:
CantStopJM wrote:
3baller wrote:
CantStopJM wrote:
Seriously, why is he so hyped?

He's another Clarkson. Same pros and same cons. There's a reason why advanced metrics hate him. He can't defend. When his shot is on, he'll give the points right back. When his shot is off, he's as much as a liability as Clarkson.


For someone trying to use advanced metrics, you shouldíve at least gotten your facts straight or even close for that matter.

Julius Randle 1st yr playing: -2.75 ORPM, -1.55 DRPM, -4.3 RPM
Jordan Clarkson: Rookie: 0.64 ORPM, -3.00 DRPM, -2.36 DRPM
Sophomore: O.14 ORPM, -2.56 DRPM, -2.42 RPM
3rd year: -0.63 ORPM, -3.39 DRPM, -4.02 RPM
Díangelo Russell: -1.10 ORPM, -2.56 DRPM, -3.66RPM
Brandon Ingram: -1.76 ORPM, -2.93 DRPM, -4.69 RPM

Kyle Kuzma: 0.02 ORPM, -1.73 DRPM, -1.71 RPM

Kuz was around -2.5, -2.7 DRPM a month ago so heís been trending upward since focusing more on D. Heís not on the same stratosphere at sucking on defense as JC. Not even close. And heís playing better D than our other past hyped rookies on their 1st year so..


What in the world did you just prove with this post? He's bad defensively but not as bad as Clarkson? Ok?

He's one of the worst defenders in the league. Visually and numbers wise.

The fact that some people think he's untouchable and part of our future is alarming. He's overrated on this board. Wolves gave up Lavine without blinking yet some people wouldn't trade him at all except for 10-15 guys.


Uhh proved that A.) heís getting better on D as the season is progressing B.) Heís still a rookie but is playing better D than our last rookies including our other untouchable Ingram C.) Kuz is hyped because heís a rookie and still has upside on D and has shown elite offensive potential, unlike JC who you compared him to who has been consistently bad on defense D.) You are probably high

Also pretty sure LaVine had a very serious injury which Iím sure made the decision a lot easier.


Who cares if he's getting better on defense, I would hope so, he was probably the worst one in the league. He still sucks defensively. Clarkson was bad defensively his rookie year, has he progressed on that end? Kuzma has upside defensively? He looks like a nervous wreck on that end like he's whispering to himself don't pass to my man don't pass to my man. You would think after seeing Randle and Clarkson that people would realize that potential is just a word.


No joke, you are definitely not watching this kid play and thatís obvious.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:21 pm    Post subject:

He had five points robbed from him today. One on a goaltend that was missed and one on a three where his defender came under him which is a foul this season.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:21 pm    Post subject:

Rhazz wrote:
CantStopJM wrote:
3baller wrote:
CantStopJM wrote:
3baller wrote:
CantStopJM wrote:
Seriously, why is he so hyped?

He's another Clarkson. Same pros and same cons. There's a reason why advanced metrics hate him. He can't defend. When his shot is on, he'll give the points right back. When his shot is off, he's as much as a liability as Clarkson.


For someone trying to use advanced metrics, you shouldíve at least gotten your facts straight or even close for that matter.

Julius Randle 1st yr playing: -2.75 ORPM, -1.55 DRPM, -4.3 RPM
Jordan Clarkson: Rookie: 0.64 ORPM, -3.00 DRPM, -2.36 DRPM
Sophomore: O.14 ORPM, -2.56 DRPM, -2.42 RPM
3rd year: -0.63 ORPM, -3.39 DRPM, -4.02 RPM
Díangelo Russell: -1.10 ORPM, -2.56 DRPM, -3.66RPM
Brandon Ingram: -1.76 ORPM, -2.93 DRPM, -4.69 RPM

Kyle Kuzma: 0.02 ORPM, -1.73 DRPM, -1.71 RPM

Kuz was around -2.5, -2.7 DRPM a month ago so heís been trending upward since focusing more on D. Heís not on the same stratosphere at sucking on defense as JC. Not even close. And heís playing better D than our other past hyped rookies on their 1st year so..


What in the world did you just prove with this post? He's bad defensively but not as bad as Clarkson? Ok?

He's one of the worst defenders in the league. Visually and numbers wise.

The fact that some people think he's untouchable and part of our future is alarming. He's overrated on this board. Wolves gave up Lavine without blinking yet some people wouldn't trade him at all except for 10-15 guys.


Uhh proved that A.) heís getting better on D as the season is progressing B.) Heís still a rookie but is playing better D than our last rookies including our other untouchable Ingram C.) Kuz is hyped because heís a rookie and still has upside on D and has shown elite offensive potential, unlike JC who you compared him to who has been consistently bad on defense D.) You are probably high

Also pretty sure LaVine had a very serious injury which Iím sure made the decision a lot easier.


Who cares if he's getting better on defense, I would hope so, he was probably the worst one in the league. He still sucks defensively. Clarkson was bad defensively his rookie year, has he progressed on that end? Kuzma has upside defensively? He looks like a nervous wreck on that end like he's whispering to himself don't pass to my man don't pass to my man. You would think after seeing Randle and Clarkson that people would realize that potential is just a word.


No joke, you are definitely not watching this kid play and thatís obvious.


Are you sure or maybe you're just a homer?

I saw this dude go into a charge stance on defense when his man wasn't even attacking him and was a foot away from him dribbling. He has no defensive instincts. Do you think those just magically appear?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:41 pm    Post subject:

3baller wrote:
CantStopJM wrote:
3baller wrote:
CantStopJM wrote:
Seriously, why is he so hyped?

He's another Clarkson. Same pros and same cons. There's a reason why advanced metrics hate him. He can't defend. When his shot is on, he'll give the points right back. When his shot is off, he's as much as a liability as Clarkson.


For someone trying to use advanced metrics, you shouldíve at least gotten your facts straight or even close for that matter.

Julius Randle 1st yr playing: -2.75 ORPM, -1.55 DRPM, -4.3 RPM
Jordan Clarkson: Rookie: 0.64 ORPM, -3.00 DRPM, -2.36 DRPM
Sophomore: O.14 ORPM, -2.56 DRPM, -2.42 RPM
3rd year: -0.63 ORPM, -3.39 DRPM, -4.02 RPM
Díangelo Russell: -1.10 ORPM, -2.56 DRPM, -3.66RPM
Brandon Ingram: -1.76 ORPM, -2.93 DRPM, -4.69 RPM

Kyle Kuzma: 0.02 ORPM, -1.73 DRPM, -1.71 RPM

Kuz was around -2.5, -2.7 DRPM a month ago so heís been trending upward since focusing more on D. Heís not on the same stratosphere at sucking on defense as JC. Not even close. And heís playing better D than our other past hyped rookies on their 1st year so..


What in the world did you just prove with this post? He's bad defensively but not as bad as Clarkson? Ok?

He's one of the worst defenders in the league. Visually and numbers wise.

The fact that some people think he's untouchable and part of our future is alarming. He's overrated on this board. Wolves gave up Lavine without blinking yet some people wouldn't trade him at all except for 10-15 guys.


Uhh proved that A.) heís getting better on D as the season is progressing B.) Heís still a rookie but is playing better D than our last rookies including our other untouchable Ingram C.) Kuz is hyped because heís a rookie and still has upside on D and has shown elite offensive potential, unlike JC who you compared him to who has been consistently bad on defense D.) You are probably high

Also pretty sure LaVine had a very serious injury which Iím sure made the decision a lot easier.

So I agree with a decent amount of your post, but while Kuzma's DRPM is superficially higher than JC's as a rookie, the thing to remember is that DRPM is biased towards taller players just because they're taller. RPM is generally something that's better to look at positionally -- so Kuzma is last positionally while JC is close to last. It's fair to say they're just about equally bad defenders, despite what the raw numbers say.

That said, you are correct that Kuz's defense is trending upwards whereas JC has had terrible numbers for 3 years. It's fair to raise flags about Kuz's defense, but it's way too early to write him off.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:41 pm    Post subject:

Was a bit late on rotations.
It didn't help that our guards didn't help resist penetration.

If you're looking at his defense in the late 4th, that's almost ignorable as the Lakers were trying to trap for steals as they were down big. They weren't sticking to principles at that point
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:43 pm    Post subject:

Kuzma has some great offensive talent but he has a tendency to try to do too much. On defense he is as bad as the worst defenders on the team. I don't believe hes ready to be a starting PF. Maybe when he figures out the defensive end.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:45 pm    Post subject:

Combine Kuz and Larry together?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:48 pm    Post subject:

CantStopJM wrote:
Rhazz wrote:
CantStopJM wrote:
3baller wrote:
CantStopJM wrote:
3baller wrote:
CantStopJM wrote:
Seriously, why is he so hyped?

He's another Clarkson. Same pros and same cons. There's a reason why advanced metrics hate him. He can't defend. When his shot is on, he'll give the points right back. When his shot is off, he's as much as a liability as Clarkson.


For someone trying to use advanced metrics, you shouldíve at least gotten your facts straight or even close for that matter.

Julius Randle 1st yr playing: -2.75 ORPM, -1.55 DRPM, -4.3 RPM
Jordan Clarkson: Rookie: 0.64 ORPM, -3.00 DRPM, -2.36 DRPM
Sophomore: O.14 ORPM, -2.56 DRPM, -2.42 RPM
3rd year: -0.63 ORPM, -3.39 DRPM, -4.02 RPM
Díangelo Russell: -1.10 ORPM, -2.56 DRPM, -3.66RPM
Brandon Ingram: -1.76 ORPM, -2.93 DRPM, -4.69 RPM

Kyle Kuzma: 0.02 ORPM, -1.73 DRPM, -1.71 RPM

Kuz was around -2.5, -2.7 DRPM a month ago so heís been trending upward since focusing more on D. Heís not on the same stratosphere at sucking on defense as JC. Not even close. And heís playing better D than our other past hyped rookies on their 1st year so..


What in the world did you just prove with this post? He's bad defensively but not as bad as Clarkson? Ok?

He's one of the worst defenders in the league. Visually and numbers wise.

The fact that some people think he's untouchable and part of our future is alarming. He's overrated on this board. Wolves gave up Lavine without blinking yet some people wouldn't trade him at all except for 10-15 guys.


Uhh proved that A.) heís getting better on D as the season is progressing B.) Heís still a rookie but is playing better D than our last rookies including our other untouchable Ingram C.) Kuz is hyped because heís a rookie and still has upside on D and has shown elite offensive potential, unlike JC who you compared him to who has been consistently bad on defense D.) You are probably high

Also pretty sure LaVine had a very serious injury which Iím sure made the decision a lot easier.


Who cares if he's getting better on defense, I would hope so, he was probably the worst one in the league. He still sucks defensively. Clarkson was bad defensively his rookie year, has he progressed on that end? Kuzma has upside defensively? He looks like a nervous wreck on that end like he's whispering to himself don't pass to my man don't pass to my man. You would think after seeing Randle and Clarkson that people would realize that potential is just a word.


No joke, you are definitely not watching this kid play and thatís obvious.


Are you sure or maybe you're just a homer?

I saw this dude go into a charge stance on defense when his man wasn't even attacking him and was a foot away from him dribbling. He has no defensive instincts. Do you think those just magically appear?


Defensive instincts? No one is saying this kid is gonna be a magical defender but his improvement is rapid and obvious both statistically and visually. Does he make mistakes? Sure, heís a rookie. What I am impressed by is his willingness to learn. To say heís the next Clarkson is straight up blind hate.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:04 pm    Post subject:

I guess every player on this team and for this franchise will have their haters. Lonzo have his and Kuzma have his so does every other on the team.. Now that Kuzma is in a slump he is the worst defender ever in the NBA. He has made key defensive blocks and plays in the recent wins and it count for bleep to these haters, I guess thats curse these players playing for this franchise. Plus the KUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUz chant still in effect throughout NBA arenas Go figure.

One thing to point out from this game tonight, Kuzma along with KCP, Hart and Nance played a lot better along with the new point guard GPII in the 4th qu
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:05 pm    Post subject:

One thing that Kuz can do is SHOOT! nuff said.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:22 pm    Post subject:

He needs to improve his help defense and hit the weight room next summer. Improving his strength would immensely and immediately help his defense against bulkier PFs. Right now he's not built to bang inside but has done a decent job vs lankier guys like Kristaps and Giannis. I think he had 2 blocks on 2 Kristaps jumpers if I remember correctly. Watching film will help him with his help D. As long as he's got the work ethic and willingness to learn and adjust his game, he will be fine.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:32 pm    Post subject:

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Kuzma has some great offensive talent but he has a tendency to try to do too much. On defense he is as bad as the worst defenders on the team. I don't believe hes ready to be a starting PF. Maybe when he figures out the defensive end.


Even though what you said is true you'll be labels a hater by the Kuzma fanboys
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:36 pm    Post subject:

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Kuzma has some great offensive talent but he has a tendency to try to do too much. On defense he is as bad as the worst defenders on the team. I don't believe hes ready to be a starting PF. Maybe when he figures out the defensive end.


Even though what you said is true you'll be labels a hater by the Kuzma fanboys

Let's not polarize Kuzma fandom like that
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:57 pm    Post subject:

Kuzma is a rookie and makes rookie mistakes, he's has a long way to go defensively and offensively. However he has great potential and upside. Give him time; the best is yet to come.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:23 pm    Post subject:

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Kuzma is a rookie and makes rookie mistakes, he's has a long way to go defensively and offensively. However he has great potential and upside. Give him time; the best is yet to come.


The problem is that he is as old as Hart and Randle, so his physical prime is only 3-4 years away (as is theirís). That is why 4 year players usually go late in drafts.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:37 pm    Post subject:

Kuzma has defensive potential. He moves his feet well on the perimeter when engaged. He needs to learn team defense in the NBA and keep his focus on that end. He also needs to add on 10lbs of muscle, he's getting bullied by bigger 4s. Randle was very bad on defense too his first couple seasons. Usually rookies suck on D.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:41 pm    Post subject:

The Juggernaut wrote:
Kuzma has defensive potential. He moves his feet well on the perimeter when engaged. He needs to learn team defense in the NBA and keep his focus on that end. He also needs to add on 10lbs of muscle, he's getting bullied by bigger 4s. Randle was very bad on defense too his first couple seasons. Usually rookies suck on D.


He needs to learn to make much more effort on defense but letís not cap him out after 42 games.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:43 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
pio2u wrote:
Kuzma is a rookie and makes rookie mistakes, he's has a long way to go defensively and offensively. However he has great potential and upside. Give him time; the best is yet to come.


The problem is that he is as old as Hart and Randle, so his physical prime is only 3-4 years away (as is theirís). That is why 4 year players usually go late in drafts.




Some people act like Kuzma being 22 is the equivalent of a 22 year old NBA player in his 4th season..No way, no how. Rookie season is still a rookie season.
Things like NBA level conditioning, training, understanding of the game etc etc...you only gain that by playing.

Kuzma's potential isnt any worse simply because he stayed in college longer. He will pick it all up faster and develop faster than most younger rookies would but but he's still a rookie in his own right.
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venturalakersfan wrote:
pio2u wrote:
Kuzma is a rookie and makes rookie mistakes, he's has a long way to go defensively and offensively. However he has great potential and upside. Give him time; the best is yet to come.


The problem is that he is as old as Hart and Randle, so his physical prime is only 3-4 years away (as is theirís). That is why 4 year players usually go late in drafts.




Some people act like Kuzma being 22 is the equivalent of a 22 year old NBA player in his 4th season..No way, no how. Rookie season is still a rookie season.
Things like NBA level conditioning, training, understanding of the game etc etc...you only gain that by playing.

Kuzma's potential isnt any worse simply because he stayed in college longer. He will pick it all up faster and develop faster than most younger rookies would but but he's still a rookie in his own right.


That is pretty much my point, teams prefer the 22 yo with 4 years in the NBA than 4 years in college. They have already been through all the rookie downs by the time they hit their primes. The college players havenít.
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