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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:37 am    Post subject:

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This team is a dumpster fire.


this teams fans are a dumpster fire...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:40 am    Post subject:

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Kuz will come in handy at center at times...it's up to Luke to put him in successful situation.
Kuz is working hard and I think he will figure it out and be more of a Draymond type center


The problem with that is that it isn't even remotely, within the same galaxy of what he excels at.


seems to be smarter than most give him credit for and seems to be a quick learner
...hoping he excels at team play
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:43 am    Post subject:

Anyone who's played competitive basketball will tell you that guarding people who are 5-7 inches taller and 30-40 pounds heavier is exhausting.

I think Kuz's legs were worn out battling the trees all night. I think it's a disservice to him.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:46 am    Post subject:

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Anyone who's played competitive basketball will tell you that guarding people who are 5-7 inches taller and 30-40 pounds heavier is exhausting.

I think Kuz's legs were worn out battling the trees all night. I think it's a disservice to him.


2-3” taller most nights but Nurkik probably has 50lbs on him, that’s just crazy
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Anyone who's played competitive basketball will tell you that guarding people who are 5-7 inches taller and 30-40 pounds heavier is exhausting.

I think Kuz's legs were worn out battling the trees all night. I think it's a disservice to him.


2-3” taller most nights but Nurkik probably has 50lbs on him, that’s just crazy


Kuz is what, 6'8/6'9 tops? had to battle legit 7 footers in Collins/Leonard. They just crucified the team on the boards. He's giving up 3-5 inches, and easily 20-30 pounds.

Kuz struggled with the physicality of PFs, and to throw him to even more physical Cs? Yikes.
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Anyone who's played competitive basketball will tell you that guarding people who are 5-7 inches taller and 30-40 pounds heavier is exhausting.

I think Kuz's legs were worn out battling the trees all night. I think it's a disservice to him.


2-3” taller most nights but Nurkik probably has 50lbs on him, that’s just crazy


Kuz is what, 6'8/6'9 tops? had to battle legit 7 footers in Collins/Leonard. They just crucified the team on the boards. He's giving up 3-5 inches, and easily 20-30 pounds.

Kuz struggled with the physicality of PFs, and to throw him to even more physical Cs? Yikes.


he's taller than Ingram, pushing 6'10
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:57 am    Post subject:

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Anyone who's played competitive basketball will tell you that guarding people who are 5-7 inches taller and 30-40 pounds heavier is exhausting.

I think Kuz's legs were worn out battling the trees all night. I think it's a disservice to him.


2-3” taller most nights but Nurkik probably has 50lbs on him, that’s just crazy


Kuz is what, 6'8/6'9 tops? had to battle legit 7 footers in Collins/Leonard. They just crucified the team on the boards. He's giving up 3-5 inches, and easily 20-30 pounds.

Kuz struggled with the physicality of PFs, and to throw him to even more physical Cs? Yikes.

Its not just the height and weight Kuz doesn't have a real strong base or legs like a Draymond Green or Dennis Rodman he's just not built that way
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Anyone who's played competitive basketball will tell you that guarding people who are 5-7 inches taller and 30-40 pounds heavier is exhausting.

I think Kuz's legs were worn out battling the trees all night. I think it's a disservice to him.


2-3” taller most nights but Nurkik probably has 50lbs on him, that’s just crazy


Kuz is what, 6'8/6'9 tops? had to battle legit 7 footers in Collins/Leonard. They just crucified the team on the boards. He's giving up 3-5 inches, and easily 20-30 pounds.

Kuz struggled with the physicality of PFs, and to throw him to even more physical Cs? Yikes.

Its not just the height and weight Kuz doesn't have a real strong base or legs like a Draymond Green or Dennis Rodman he's just not built that way


agreed. He's better playing SF as a secondary position. We are making a mistake IMO on this.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:59 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
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Anyone who's played competitive basketball will tell you that guarding people who are 5-7 inches taller and 30-40 pounds heavier is exhausting.

I think Kuz's legs were worn out battling the trees all night. I think it's a disservice to him.


2-3” taller most nights but Nurkik probably has 50lbs on him, that’s just crazy


Kuz is what, 6'8/6'9 tops? had to battle legit 7 footers in Collins/Leonard. They just crucified the team on the boards. He's giving up 3-5 inches, and easily 20-30 pounds.

Kuz struggled with the physicality of PFs, and to throw him to even more physical Cs? Yikes.


Don't get all Chris Webber ("Kyle Kuzma is 6'7") on us. He measured 6'9.5" in shoes at the combine. So Collins and Nurkik have 2.5" on him, Leonard does have a legit 3.5" on him. Now when we get to play those 4 games this season against Boban, he will be giving up like 10", but whatever...

Anyway, a inch here or there aside, the height isn't the issue so much as the base. He doesn't have it. And so he's got no business playing the 5. This round peg in a square hole experiment just isn't going to work--Kuzma isn't going to become a center, even of the small ball variety. They need to plug that hole ASAP.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:00 am    Post subject:

I agree. just a height stickler
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:00 am    Post subject:

Yep. Kuzma at 5 will not work. Dont ruin the kid now.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:01 am    Post subject:

the amount of energy he's going to have playing the 4 instead... yeees. yess. Moe needs to get healthy, man. but he's a month away, at least
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:03 am    Post subject:

Kuz doesn't move his feet like a rim protecting center would (i.e. knowing how to stay on the ground on fakes and not overjumping to contest unnecessarily). He has the footwork of a forward.

And 100% agree he doesn't have the lower body strength.

Look at his legs compared to PJ Tucker who is 6'4.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:06 am    Post subject:

6'6

edit: ok 6'5

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:08 am    Post subject:

KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
the amount of energy he's going to have playing the 4 instead... yeees. yess. Moe needs to get healthy, man. but he's a month away, at least

And when Moe does get back, I still think he's going to be in for a rude awakening about the strength of NBA bigs. So I agree it would be great to have him, but we should set our expectations pretty low regardless.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:10 am    Post subject:

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the amount of energy he's going to have playing the 4 instead... yeees. yess. Moe needs to get healthy, man. but he's a month away, at least

And when Moe does get back, I still think he's going to be in for a rude awakening about the strength of NBA bigs. So I agree it would be great to have him, but we should set our expectations pretty low regardless.


6’11 240 guy playing Center is still better than a 6’9 220ish guy playing center.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:12 am    Post subject:

Just look at Tucker/Dray's booties compared to Kuz.

Yeah.

The undersized booty never fails.
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the amount of energy he's going to have playing the 4 instead... yeees. yess. Moe needs to get healthy, man. but he's a month away, at least

And when Moe does get back, I still think he's going to be in for a rude awakening about the strength of NBA bigs. So I agree it would be great to have him, but we should set our expectations pretty low regardless.


6’11 240 guy playing Center is still better than a 6’9 220ish guy playing center.


man am I annoying.

Kuz was 223 at the combine and put on 15(?)lbs he said, this summer.
And Nurk is not 240. he's a good 270+, 6'11 and absolutely massive, cmon.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:13 am    Post subject:

Kuz doesn’t look 240 to me
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:18 am    Post subject:

https://twitter.com/kylekuzma/status/910952323538608129 last year

https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/1038177060634542080 look at the baby fat this year, 3rd and 4th pics

he def has the arms and torso build of a 6'9 guy in that weight range. his arms are bigger than Lonzo's for instance, just naturally
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:50 am    Post subject:

First Luke wants Kuz to try play small forward and now back up center. Luke doesn't know what he is doing.

Kuz needs to play in front of the basket. period!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:57 am    Post subject:

I think the LA media did him a huge disservice with the level of hype we heard all summer about him. Offensively, he just has to adjust to where he's going to get shots. Defensively, him at the 5 just won't work against any 5 with size.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:13 am    Post subject:

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First Luke wants Kuz to try play small forward and now back up center. Luke doesn't know what he is doing.

Kuz needs to play in front of the basket. period!!!!


Yeah I agree the Lakers are putting him at a disservice.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:18 am    Post subject:

KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
https://twitter.com/kylekuzma/status/910952323538608129 last year

https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/1038177060634542080 look at the baby fat this year, 3rd and 4th pics

he def has the arms and torso build of a 6'9 guy in that weight range. his arms are bigger than Lonzo's for instance, just naturally


definitely more junk in the trunk this year...that will tone as he gets in game shape
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:29 am    Post subject:

Wvc0925 wrote:
Kuz doesn’t look 240 to me


He actually looks like he lost weight to me. Could be because he is matched up with bigger guys though.
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