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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:14 pm    Post subject:

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Kuzma is a less accurate 3 point shooting Rashard Lewis. That dude was a nice player.


What's Kuzma's 3P% after tonight's game?

Lewis is a career 38% 3P shooter with his best year being 43%.

As long as he's alongside Lonzo, Kuz can do that.


45%

http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Kyle-Kuzma/Summary/81004


Thx man! I didn't know they did summer league stats over at RealGM
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:15 pm    Post subject:

Kumza this summer league

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:24 pm    Post subject:

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Kuzma is a less accurate 3 point shooting Rashard Lewis. That dude was a nice player.


But already a better passer than Lewis ever was IMO.

Lewis is a decent comp though it remains to be seen if he can keep up his shooting.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:26 pm    Post subject:

Kuzma drew a triple team
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:45 pm    Post subject:

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Go with the killer small line-up and have Brook come off the bench. Kuzma needs to start. We'd run every other team out of the gym.


Brook Lopez is one of the few Centers that are 7'0 and, can run and shoot from 3.

In other words, Brook Lopez is perfect for a small ball line up without losing size down low.

I don't think we should bench Brook in any circumstance. Kuzma, Randle and Nance are all extremely mobile 4's. If Kuzma keeps shooting like this, he will take Randle and Nance minutes EASILY.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:52 pm    Post subject:

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Go with the killer small line-up and have Brook come off the bench. Kuzma needs to start. We'd run every other team out of the gym.


Brook Lopez is one of the few Centers that are 7'0 and, can run and shoot from 3.

In other words, Brook Lopez is perfect for a small ball line up without losing size down low.

I don't think we should bench Brook in any circumstance. Kuzma, Randle and Nance are all extremely mobile 4's. If Kuzma keeps shooting like this, he will take Randle and Nance minutes EASILY.



There's more to basketball than scoring. The kid plays good defense and scores but nance and randle do a whole lot of things that Kuzma doesn't. Nance makes winning plays and I'm pretty sure he's a laker for life. Julius still has all star potential even if he doesn't fit as seemlesly as Kuzma, he's still more gifted. Imo randle is gonna beast Kuzma in training camp...I think he's a bad matchup for Kuzma all around.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:06 pm    Post subject:

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I checked out a Nets Live Thread for the game over at SB Nation and when their fans weren't saying that they don't get the big deal about Lonzo they were on suicide watch that we got Kuzma with their pick.

Then they said it's only summer league and summer league doesn't count.


I did the same thing. They hated the Dlo trade at the onset before knowing how good Kuzma is. They are beside themselves right now and most are saying 'same old Nets' in regards to another stupid trade.


Kuzma is taking some of the heat off the DLO trade... which is good for us since the deal went through.

I love seeing the chemistry between Ball and Kuzma... like the play where Kuzma lasered the ball to Lonzo at the top of the key for a 3. Nice!


If Magic doesn't land FA next summer it was bonehead trade. Won't matter what Dlo does. Why would you trade for capspace when you can't even use it?



I'm not certain that you understand what the lakers were able to do by trading d'angelo. Regardless if we don't sign a top free agent -- getting rid of mosgovs contract and an immature know it all player w/gimpy knees at 21 was good biz. The Lakers are way better off in the long run.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:53 pm    Post subject:

He's got legit skills. Summer league or not, if you can shoot, you can shoot. If you have a fast release, you have a fast release. Doesnt matter who you play against, that will translate.
I can already conclude he will be a hell of a player. Players that usually dominate summer league but cant do the same against NBA players rely either on their physical gifts or they have a few go to moves but their offensive game isnt complete so once they are read and face better competition they fall off.

Kuzma can shoot and he has a fast release. That will translate. Level of competition doesnt make any difference...

That trade with the Nets was a highway robbery from the get go, wih Kuzma we're adding insult to injury.
Gosh Nets make terrible trades.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:59 pm    Post subject:

captain jack wrote:
Jhin0821 wrote:
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I checked out a Nets Live Thread for the game over at SB Nation and when their fans weren't saying that they don't get the big deal about Lonzo they were on suicide watch that we got Kuzma with their pick.

Then they said it's only summer league and summer league doesn't count.


I did the same thing. They hated the Dlo trade at the onset before knowing how good Kuzma is. They are beside themselves right now and most are saying 'same old Nets' in regards to another stupid trade.


Kuzma is taking some of the heat off the DLO trade... which is good for us since the deal went through.

I love seeing the chemistry between Ball and Kuzma... like the play where Kuzma lasered the ball to Lonzo at the top of the key for a 3. Nice!


If Magic doesn't land FA next summer it was bonehead trade. Won't matter what Dlo does. Why would you trade for capspace when you can't even use it?



I'm not certain that you understand what the lakers were able to do by trading d'angelo. Regardless if we don't sign a top free agent -- getting rid of mosgovs contract and an immature know it all player w/gimpy knees at 21 was good biz. The Lakers are way better off in the long run.

If they don't get anyone it reduces the value of getting rid of Mozgov among other things.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:01 pm    Post subject:

The only thing about him that I saw was he can get a little wild when trying to create his own offense. I think he had turnovers and terrible shots when trying to get his on an I so face up game
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:06 pm    Post subject:

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The only thing about him that I saw was he can get a little wild when trying to create his own offense. I think he had turnovers and terrible shots when trying to get his on an I so face up game


Yea he's not an ISO player, par for the modern course.. In terms of putting the ball on the floor - he'll be very competent there in stretch PF situations - attacking on fake DHO's every blue moon, and attacking closeouts pretty frequently. And he can pass when he does so. He'll be even more willing to pass when he isn't arguably the best scorer in the lineup, in a SL setting ---- leads to bad ISO's for a lot of players
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The only thing about him that I saw was he can get a little wild when trying to create his own offense. I think he had turnovers and terrible shots when trying to get his on an I so face up game


Yea he's not an ISO player, par for the modern course.. In terms of putting the ball on the floor - he'll be very competent there in stretch PF situations - attacking on fake DHO's every blue moon, and attacking closeouts pretty frequently.
I'm sure he can work on his weaknesses, but dude does know how to defend and can defend multiple positions. I think this positionless era is nice for basketball.
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The only thing about him that I saw was he can get a little wild when trying to create his own offense. I think he had turnovers and terrible shots when trying to get his on an I so face up game


Yea he's not an ISO player, par for the modern course.. In terms of putting the ball on the floor - he'll be very competent there in stretch PF situations - attacking on fake DHO's every blue moon, and attacking closeouts pretty frequently.
I'm sure he can work on his weaknesses, but dude does know how to defend and can defend multiple positions. I think this positionless era is nice for basketball.


Can't wait to see how good he can be defensively. He's been moving his feet great in SL. And Pelinka praised how he talks on D..
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:31 pm    Post subject:

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Kuzma is a less accurate 3 point shooting Rashard Lewis. That dude was a nice player.


Less one on one/scoring potential, but more defensive potential. His ceiling is Klay Thompson at the 3/4 spot. I like the Robert Horry comp though. That's where he probably projects.


I did the Horry comp on draft night....I am usually not very good with player comps


Kuz carries himself with a little more confidence and offensive aggression then Horry (which is a good thing)... But definitely similar in that they both do a little bit of everything and help fill up a stat sheet - if anything, he definitely more like the Houston Rockets Horry than the Lakers Horry.

Btw, the younger Horry used to draw Scottie Pippen comparisons... Imagine if Ku was able to hone his defense to guard 1-4 and even smaller 5s... wow
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:51 am    Post subject:

Indiana gone feel this when George get here this dude looking like a stud
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:39 am    Post subject:

KUZMA IS THE REAL DEAL!
His scoring average is 20.5 points on 48.4 percent shooting from the field and 45 percent from three.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:06 am    Post subject:

Kuzmas minutes are going to go way down once the regular season starts. I hope he can be as effective in a more limited role.

Great start for the kid though. His shooting will drop, but what I love is his passing. Wasnt expecting that.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:18 am    Post subject:

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Kuzmas minutes are going to go way down once the regular season starts. I hope he can be as effective in a more limited role.

Great start for the kid though. His shooting will drop, but what I love is his passing. Wasnt expecting that.


I love the way the kid runs the floor and he is quick and can finish. If you give him an opening, he can get to the basket pretty quickly and can handle the ball and such.

He truly does seem to fit in the modern NBA very well. I don't recall much from him at Utah, could be a case of a college coach misusing a talent.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:19 am    Post subject:

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Kuzmas minutes are going to go way down once the regular season starts. I hope he can be as effective in a more limited role.

Great start for the kid though. His shooting will drop, but what I love is his passing. Wasnt expecting that.


I love the way the kid runs the floor and he is quick and can finish. If you give him an opening, he can get to the basket pretty quickly and can handle the ball and such.

He truly does seem to fit in the modern NBA very well. I don't recall much from him at Utah, could be a case of a college coach misusing a talent.


honestly, the kid just missed a lot of shots at Utah....stroke looks the same, they just did not fall
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Kuzmas minutes are going to go way down once the regular season starts. I hope he can be as effective in a more limited role.

Great start for the kid though. His shooting will drop, but what I love is his passing. Wasnt expecting that.


I love the way the kid runs the floor and he is quick and can finish. If you give him an opening, he can get to the basket pretty quickly and can handle the ball and such.

He truly does seem to fit in the modern NBA very well. I don't recall much from him at Utah, could be a case of a college coach misusing a talent.


honestly, the kid just missed a lot of shots at Utah....stroke looks the same, they just did not fall


Seems like it. Nice compact shot. Looks consistent, quick release. He's a keeper.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:31 am    Post subject:

Kuuuuzzzz will be an anchor on the second unit. I wonder how he'll play with JC though since he's shown such great chemistry with Lonzo. Looking forward to the small ball lineup with him and Nance.
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Kuuuuzzzz will be an anchor on the second unit. I wonder how he'll play with JC though since he's shown such great chemistry with Lonzo. Looking forward to the small ball lineup with him and Nance.



seems like a versatile plug and play type of player
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:39 am    Post subject:

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Can't wait to see how good he can be defensively. He's been moving his feet great in SL. And Pelinka praised how he talks on D..


The quick feet have really been standing out. And he's not weak against stronger players either. It's not just the find, it's finding the best fit and this dude plays so well with Zo. Someone made the comparison that he's got some skills similar Dray Green. I know, it's only SL but I've been surprised how well he reads the floor as a passer and ball handler. He juked RHJ something nasty last night and that's no slouch on D.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:27 am    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:39 am    Post subject:

ringfinger wrote:
Kuzmas minutes are going to go way down once the regular season starts. I hope he can be as effective in a more limited role.

Great start for the kid though. His shooting will drop, but what I love is his passing. Wasnt expecting that.


The kid has been on fire since the draft combine. Agree that 45% is very high, but this kid can really shoot and has been doing so for months now.
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